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Hi all,

 

Just looking for any tips or feedback on my Thugs/Time/Mace build.
I have a psuedo attack chain I can do if I dont have anything to lockdown or use time stuff on with Boxing and Crosspunch. I have had a blast with the build.

 

Generally I just use this build for random teams, TF and Itrial stuff.

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Call Thugs -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(3), SprMarofS-Dmg(3), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(5), ExpStr-Dam%(5), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(7)
Level 1: Time Crawl -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A)
Level 2: Temporal Mending -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(9), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(11), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(13)
Level 4: Time's Juncture -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(17), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(17), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(19)
Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Boxing -- Hct-Dmg(A)
Level 10: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(19), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(21), Ksm-ToHit+(21)
Level 12: Call Enforcer -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SlbAll-Dmg(23), TchofLadG-%Dam(25), AchHee-ResDeb%(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(27)
Level 14: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(27), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(29)
Level 16: Distortion Field -- NrnSht-Dam%(A), GldNet-Dam%(29), ImpSwf-Dam%(31), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(31), UnbCns-Dam%(31), Lck-%Hold(33)
Level 18: Gang War -- CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(A), EdcoftheM-PetDef(33), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(34), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(34)
Level 20: Cross Punch -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg(36), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(36), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 24: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 26: Call Bruiser -- SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Build%(40), ExpStr-Dam%(40)
Level 28: Farsight -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(42), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(42), Rct-Def/Rchg(42), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Rct-ResDam%(43)
Level 30: Time Stop -- UnbCns-Hold/Rchg(A), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold(43), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(45), UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg(45), UnbCns-Hold(45)
Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Slowed Response -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), TchofLadG-DefDeb(46), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg(46), AchHee-ResDeb%(46)
Level 38: Chrono Shift -- Pnc-Heal(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(47), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(47), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(47), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(48)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LucoftheG-Def(48)
Level 44: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(49)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(13), Pnc-Heal/+End(15)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(15)
Level 14: Speed Phase
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Support Core Embodiment
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Clarion Total Core Invocation
Level 50: High Pain Threshold
Level 50: Invader
Level 50: Marshal
Level 50: Born In Battle
Level 1: Punk
Level 1: Arsonist
Level 26: Bruiser
Level 12: Enforcer
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For Leadership, maybe drop Tactics instead of Assault. Power Boost + Farsight (On your build) provides about +12.5% tohit, Supremacy +10% tohit, Enforcer Tactics +2.5% (x2) = +27.5% tohit for all pets.

 

Squeeze Burnout into the build for Double Gang War. Will only be able to use it once every 7ish minutes but I'm usually pretty excited when it's ready. Activate Assault Radial Hybrid-GW-BO-GW-PB-Farsight. Great burst damage.

 

I've never used Cross Punch before but Mids' shows it only has a 0.67 mag. It shouldn't KB anything unless hitting targets several levels lower than you. Sudden Acceleration probably isn't needed.

 

+Recharge does nothing for pets. Soulbound +dam/end would be way better for the Bruiser instead of +dam/rech. He's an end hog.

 

I recommend getting Hasten and Chrono Shift perma without the use of the Force Feedback proc.

 

All your power picks are pretty much the same as mine. Except I do not have Cross Punch, Weave and Tactics. Using Temporal Selection, Burnout and Assault instead. Though I find myself not bothering with Temporal Selection. It should be ok. Get it to a 30s recharge and cycle it through the Bruiser, both Enforcers and Arsonist.

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Very much appreciate the feedback, I was doing my testing on a lower leveled mob I was wondering why they went flying. yay more recharge.

I think I picked tactics instead of assault for so my own hit would be enough for +4 mobs with boxing and slowed response, but I will have a play and see if I can handle a little missing.

 

I'm not sure what I have done wrong in Mids but in game both Chrono and Hasen are prema without the FF proc happening, I can't seem to get mids to agree with the in game numbers though. Worked it out the timelord day job bonus is whats getting me over the line.

 

Burnout is an interesting idea, I might give it a go at a later date.

 

Thanks again!

Update below

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Call Thugs -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(3), SprMarofS-Dmg(3), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(5), ExpStr-Dam%(5), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(7)
Level 1: Time Crawl -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A)
Level 2: Temporal Mending -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(9), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(11), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(13)
Level 4: Time's Juncture -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(17), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(17), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(19)
Level 6: Equip Thugs -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Boxing -- Hct-Dmg(A)
Level 10: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(19), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(21), Ksm-ToHit+(21)
Level 12: Call Enforcer -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SlbAll-Dmg(23), TchofLadG-%Dam(25), AchHee-ResDeb%(25), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(27)
Level 14: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), GldArm-End/Res(27), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(29)
Level 16: Distortion Field -- NrnSht-Dam%(A), GldNet-Dam%(29), ImpSwf-Dam%(31), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(31), UnbCns-Dam%(31), Lck-%Hold(33)
Level 18: Gang War -- CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(A), EdcoftheM-PetDef(33), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(34), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(34)
Level 20: Cross Punch -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg(36), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)
Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(36), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 24: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 26: Call Bruiser -- SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SlbAll-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SlbAll-Build%(40), ExpStr-Dam%(40)
Level 28: Farsight -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(42), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(42), Rct-Def/Rchg(42), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Rct-ResDam%(43)
Level 30: Time Stop -- UnbCns-Hold/Rchg(A), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold(43), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(45), UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg(45), UnbCns-Hold(45)
Level 32: Upgrade Equipment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Slowed Response -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), TchofLadG-DefDeb(46), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg(46), AchHee-ResDeb%(46)
Level 38: Chrono Shift -- Pnc-Heal(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(47), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(47), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(47), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(48)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), LucoftheG-Def(48)
Level 44: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(49)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(13), Pnc-Heal/+End(15)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(15)
Level 14: Speed Phase
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
Level 50: Clarion Total Core Invocation
Level 50: High Pain Threshold
Level 50: Invader
Level 50: Marshal
Level 50: Born In Battle
Level 1: Punk
Level 1: Arsonist
Level 26: Bruiser
Level 12: Enforcer
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Threw together a very rough build i lost my old one and can't be bothered looking for the toon i forget which server its on. If you have to keep cross punch i'd go for something more like this (you want some acc in slowed response and and time crawl wants acc/end you find yourself using it a lot on gm/av before you toss out time stop). Not sure i even took fighting pool on mine, a power boosted farsight gets you plenty defence and i remember /time can be pretty end heavy once you start spamming stuff.

 

This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

THUGS TIME: Level 49 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Thugs
Secondary Power Set: Time Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Call Thugs            SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(A), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(3), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(5), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(5), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(7)
Level 1:    Time Crawl            TmpRdn-Acc/EndRdx(A)
Level 2:    Temporal Mending        Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Heal(11)
Level 4:    Time's Juncture            HO:Enzym(A), HO:Enzym(13)
Level 6:    Equip Thugs            EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13)
Level 10:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(15), Rct-Def(15), Rct-Def/EndRdx(17)
Level 12:    Call Enforcer            SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(17), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(19), AchHee-ResDeb%(19), TchofLadG-%Dam(21), ShlBrk-%Dam(21)
Level 14:    Boxing                Empty(A)
Level 16:    Distortion Field        Lck-%Hold(A), Lck-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(47), ImpSwf-Dam%(48), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(48), GldNet-Dam%(48)
Level 18:    Gang War            SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(46), EdcoftheM-PetDef(47), SvrRgh-PetResDam(49)
Level 20:    Time Stop            SprEnt-Acc/Hold(A), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End(43), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg(43), UnbCns-Dam%(45), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(45), GldNet-Dam%(45)
Level 22:    Tough                StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), Ags-Psi/Status(23), Ags-ResDam(40), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(43)
Level 24:    Cross Punch            FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Arm-Dam%(25), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Arm-Dmg(37)
Level 26:    Call Bruiser            SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SlbAll-Build%(27), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpStr-Dam%(33), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(34)
Level 28:    Farsight            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), HO:Membr(29), HO:Cyto(29)
Level 30:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), ShlWal-Def(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31)
Level 32:    Upgrade Equipment        Empty(A)
Level 35:    Slowed Response            AchHee-ResDeb%(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(36), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(36), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(36), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(37), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38:    Chrono Shift            PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(40), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(40)
Level 41:    Scorpion Shield            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42)
Level 44:    Super Speed            BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 47:    Burnout                RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49:    Power Boost            RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Supremacy    
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Health                Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(33)
Level 1:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(42)
Level 1:    Punk    
Level 1:    Arsonist    
Level 12:    Enforcer    
Level 26:    Bruiser    
Level 44:    Speed Phase    
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