Snixnix Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 I'm not going to pretend to write a guide for human form... maybe that comes in time, but I have seen people asking for a build of some form or another. Here is my current live homecoming build. Replace overwhelming force KB=KD with Sudden Acceleration KB=KD (overwhelming force does not have enough -kb to actually make gravataic emanation into a kd but sudden acceleration does.) Enjoy | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1489;679;1358;HEX;| |78DA6594594F13511886CF74A6D6960245F6AD2D4528022D2D8B718931628349014| |50BF1925418A009164201D1B8B0C4C428BB89FE0B7F8D1A2FBCF10728442FD58C1F| |F3BE5442276D9E99F75BE79B73CEF04AC2FBE1D6DA75A595DC9C4DE772E3F7D30BB| |999F4A4E94A4D64CCEC84A9E472A5B29915F9B9E43E70EC307E676ACACCE632CB66| |74ECE18385F4EC78BF2458F4E7ED09F394FDC6D2425A7946E6E666A3A979D39C2CB| |66F0732D3338B99ECB4D77E1A32D3F3F98781CC62D6CCE5548DD46D93FFBA57F1B2| |1CAADF502A6E28C7009900978E7C34DB4753DDBAAD9DA916A1D150CB62D360D3B59| |0DC84C5E607CF36934DE086F8EAA865E8630E3B8F314ADE053DF7C814F848629CC8| |6F38B751BB649FDC057D7BE40E1892A1BA10E37075285B3B778A2B92D7CDBEDDECB| |B827D57B0EF2AF6FD4A7C8BEC01584691420DEF6FF4E7B5C0AA3F60CD5FF0B1C414| |7366C5959AAD457CE013B195B276296B37B076036BFB59FBB5F89661667AD947873| |DF3BA2FA0FF13F9197C29BEE59C6F799CFD7482755130D80536C5C0A71253897773| |566E426BDE02CF6F933BE42ED8BA073E93D86AD453D55FA1BD11AD169AB3F61B661| |5BCCD9A4972907586C861F0B9C4D6F35BD7BFC0FA0AAE6266AD1B786E5D03C3EBE0| |A6C434F29D1B2F224FB81BBCD043F6927DE096C40438D3C001B4F69FE421F90BDC1| |6DF10F387AE41EBBC445E26AF8091ABE0AAC4B460A67A0BBF6F380846026017BFAF| |C3857D7834C3364B2EA58BD241A5A30F6F6F8816E56A8A723575713555892D069B8| |AD1D660E477B5FC8EB2066DC5EEC96A2FB0C60A947881D253A0F41628C9930A57C4| |90913F3D64CB411B312889A6D9916E5FFE6CB046C5EAA6D5CD2CDF3DF973466911E| |CE183FF9AA6258FE78A35F7E3A47F1BFC0F3D27CEAAF7C81BDF27DF916FC141D948| |71F85AFF004562DA22| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Snixnix Posted June 4, 2019 Author Posted June 4, 2019 I joked I might start a guide thinger. Here is first installment. Very rough. A Rough Guide To Humanform Warshades Part one: Getting to know your attacks. Shadow Bolt- Fast fast fast faster than you need/want in recharge, but low damage. Pros, fast? Cons, almost too many to list. Does not do enough damage compared to ebon eye in short. Ebon Eye- With high recharge is always up. Up enough that you can use it every other attack. Gravimetric Snare- Looooooow damage, but fast recharging snare. Great way to slap some cheap purples into your build for the recharge. Dark Nova- Why are you even considering this as a humanform? Shadow Blast- High damage single target with reasonably fast recharge in a high recharge build. Will be alternated with Ebon Eye in this build. Starless Step- Not much use PvE as you hardly ever need to teleport a single enemy to you, but could be used to add a blessing of the zypher -4kb into your build if you cant get enough otherwise. I skip. Sunless Mire- This. Is. Your. New. God. Well until you get eclipse. Then that will be your new god, but at level 12 its amazing out the box (though slow to recharge). Later levels you will perma this. Be the mire. Dark Detonation- High damage aoe with knockback. Unless you have the slots to put -kb into it I would skip. Years of playing a warshade without being able to put -kb into this power taught me just how annoying it is to scatter things you want to kill in a neat pile. Skipped. Gravity Well- A hold? We get a hold? Wait.... its melee? Yeah. Love it. HUGE damage, reasonably fast recharge in a recharge intensive build. Did I mention its high damage? Yeah, I end up slotting for hold. I like stacking hold after hold on bosses. Maybe its the controller I used to main in me... Essence Drain- Like the black dwarf ability, it allows an attack that heals to be added. I tend to skip as the heal is not great, and you should be standing on a warm pile of corpses to stygean anyway. Why arent you standing knee deep in corpses yet? Gravitic Emanation- Oh god yes! One of the reasons to go humanform and we finally have it! Its a cone of stun. A cone of stun with crazy long duration to it. One that you can stack with inky aspect to permalock bosses? Did I read that right? Bosses? Yeah. Bosses. Unchain Essence- Corpses go boom too? Oh yeah baby. They sure do. They also stack disorient with it. Even more disorient? Yeah. even more. Dark Extraction- Fluffies. Need I say more? Yes? Ok. Damage pets that follow you around going pewpew. You can stack 3 of them perma in a high recharge build. If they stay alive that is. Enjoy the fluffies, but dont pet them. They are the tormented screaming souls of your enemies. Petting them is just cruel. Quasar- BOOOOOOM! Scattered corpses. Can be worth it. Not always worth it. Great if someone locks down -kb or you can afford -kb in your build here. I could not. *wince* I might be able to if i either moved it from gravitic (not gonna happen) or removed a def/end from weave. I may do that at some point. Part2: Knowing your defenses. Absorption- Always on. Free. Put some cool procs in here. I recommend two different +3% defense ones but do you. Gravity Shield- S/L defense. Not much to say here. Good to have. Orbiting Death- Technically an offense hiding in your defenses. END HEAVY. Very Very Very end heavy. Does great damage for a damage aura. Penumbral Shield- Fire/cold resists. Take it. Love it when exemplar'd down. Twilight Shield- Energy/neg energy res. bla bla bla. probably want this. Black Dwarf- We reading the same guide? Stygian Circle- Your main heal. Your main end recovery system. Take this or die. Horribly. Screaming something about wanting to heal... Corpses. Need. Want. Corpses. Seriously though you need corpses to heal with this power. Dont not be in corpses. Nebulous Form- Weak superjump with INTANGIBLE thrown in. End heavy as all heck, but you can become untouchable until your toggles drop... Enjoy it. I slot for zephyr knockback. Shadow Slip- Zone wide TP. In atlas and wanna go to Paragrine Island? One button. Instant train station. Enjoy. I dont take it only because other powers are more important to me. Inky Aspect- Disorient Aura. Take it. Love it. One of the main reasons you've gone human. Stygian Return- God I wish I could take it. So badly do I wish. Such a great skill. Amazing rez. 3-4 enemies and you get a full heal+full endurance+10 seconds invuln. Wish. But no. Eclipse- Why 3-4 enemies and I get capped resistance to everything? Including psi? I believe I will take this power. Infact if I were to tell you not to take this power you could drag me into the street and beat me. Legally. Like cops would help. Part 3- Why should I play your stupid humanform? Go ahead and play tri-form or bi-form for all I care. I however have been playing humanform for years, and hope to continue for years more. I am not an altaholic. I play one or maybe a 2nd alt type situation, but for the most part... Same toon. Day in. Day out. But, if you want to play a super tanky scrappery control type with pets, a buildup, and good damage. Check it out. It will not blast as hard as a doublemired nova, nor tank as hard as a dwarf, but it will control. Control. Control. Do damage, and survive really really well. Do I wish for dwarf sometimes to shift into and drop mez? Sure. Do i wish for nova sometimes to aoe blast pew pew? Sure. Do I wish for them enough to spec into either? No. I've played triform. I like triform. I love humanform. Part4- So what do I do? You are warshade. As I have told tanks in the past: Agro is a privilege not a right. Go eat alphas. Go blow up corpses and leave your party wondering what to hit. Stealth missions. Tp people to the boss. Or hell... Clear the room yourself. (ok dont do that its just rude) Part 5- What do I worry about? Mezzes. Thats it. Mezzes. Bring breakfrees. To be continued.
Papaschtroumpf Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I didn't open the build hex blob in Pine's so I can't look at it. I used to have a human only back in the day. I had 35% defense to most everything (using maneuvers and weave if I remember right), Eclipse was perma, and it was a great build. It was more survivable than my Tri-Form, and back then the form change too too long. With I25 I decided to go tri-form just for the craziness of constantly form switching. It's different more than better. Slightly more utility but easier to make mistakes and face plant with a tri-form. Everyone should have one of each. By the way, the defense helps a lot with mezzed, if they can't hit you they can't mezz you. Take Perma-Clarion once you're incarnate and the game suddenly became too easy :) (that's true of the tri-form too).
marcussmythe Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 How does one Perma a Destiny Slot Ability? Id think the downtime would be unavoidable. Great Justice - Invuln/Energy Melee Tank Ann Atomic - Radiation/Super Strength Tank Elecutrix - Electric Blast/Super Reflexes Sentinel Ramayael - Titan Weapons/Bio Scrapper C'len - Spines/Bio Brute
Snixnix Posted June 5, 2019 Author Posted June 5, 2019 Some destiny powers have a 120 sec uptime. They take 120 sec to recharge. ie perma
marcussmythe Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 Right, right - but dont the buff values fade across the duration, ending in near uselessness? Or does the 'Mezz Prot' part of the buff value not fade? I need to explore this more - Im currently using barrier - I need to see how much barrier is left at the end of its duration so I can reassess defense choices. Great Justice - Invuln/Energy Melee Tank Ann Atomic - Radiation/Super Strength Tank Elecutrix - Electric Blast/Super Reflexes Sentinel Ramayael - Titan Weapons/Bio Scrapper C'len - Spines/Bio Brute
Snixnix Posted June 5, 2019 Author Posted June 5, 2019 I've experimented with a few destiny slots. I believe clarion is the most important for humanform though. Mes is the biggest hole in the build.
Papaschtroumpf Posted June 5, 2019 Posted June 5, 2019 I'm not sure I have experienced the "fade" that the power describes. Maybe luck, maybe you start with high magnitude and it eventually gets to a lower level? any mezz protection is better than none. At least mezz doesn't detoggle you like in the old days, that would have made for a a painful experience
orashinage Posted July 9, 2019 Posted July 9, 2019 Sorry but i cant open your build, can you post a link or something? Thanks in advance.
Maslow Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Sorry but i cant open your build, can you post a link or something? Thanks in advance. What version of Mids'/Pine's? Here's the build Hero Plan by Hero Hero Designer 2.23 https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Snixnix: Level 50 Science Warshade Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Hero Profile: Level 1: Ebon Eye -- EssTrn-Acc/Dmg(A), EssTrn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), EssTrn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3) Level 1: Absorption -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(7) Level 2: Gravity Shield -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7), RctArm-EndRdx(9), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(9) Level 4: Gravimetric Snare -- GrvAnc-Hold%(A), GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(5), GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(5), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(11), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(11) Level 6: Orbiting Death -- KhlGrc-Acc/Dmg(A), KhlGrc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), KhlGrc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), KhlGrc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), KhlGrc-Dmg/Rchg(17) Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(19) Level 10: Penumbral Shield -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(21), RctArm-EndRdx(21), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(23) Level 12: Sunless Mire -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(13), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Obl-Acc/Rchg(23), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(25) Level 14: Shadow Cloak -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(46) Level 16: Twilight Shield -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctArm-EndRdx(29), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31) Level 18: Gravity Well -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(27), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(31), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(31) Level 20: Shadow Blast -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg(25), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Apc-Acc/Rchg(33), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34) Level 22: Stygian Circle -- EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(36), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(37), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(37), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(37), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(39) Level 24: Nebulous Form -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 26: Gravitic Emanation -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(33), AbsAmz-Stun(34), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(34), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(36) Level 28: Inky Aspect -- Stp-Acc/Rchg(A), Stp-EndRdx/Stun(33), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(39), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(39), Stp-Stun/Rng(40) Level 30: Unchain Essence -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Dmg(40), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(42) Level 32: Dark Extraction -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(43), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(43) Level 35: Quasar -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg(45), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(45), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Arm-Acc/Rchg(46) Level 38: Eclipse -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-EndRdx/Rchg(40), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(46), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48) Level 41: Kick -- Empty(A) Level 44: Tough -- Ags-Psi/Status(A) Level 47: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48) Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Dark Sustenance Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Shadow Step -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 10: Shadow Recall -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(48) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(50), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(50), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(50) Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon ------------ ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1489;679;1358;HEX;| |78DA6594594F13511886CF74A6D6960245F6AD2D4528022D2D8B718931628349014| |50BF1925418A009164201D1B8B0C4C428BB89FE0B7F8D1A2FBCF10728442FD58C1F| |F3BE5442276D9E99F75BE79B73CEF04AC2FBE1D6DA75A595DC9C4DE772E3F7D30BB| |999F4A4E94A4D64CCEC84A9E472A5B29915F9B9E43E70EC307E676ACACCE632CB66| |74ECE18385F4EC78BF2458F4E7ED09F394FDC6D2425A7946E6E666A3A979D39C2CB| |66F0732D3338B99ECB4D77E1A32D3F3F98781CC62D6CCE5548DD46D93FFBA57F1B2| |1CAADF502A6E28C7009900978E7C34DB4753DDBAAD9DA916A1D150CB62D360D3B59| |0DC84C5E607CF36934DE086F8EAA865E8630E3B8F314ADE053DF7C814F848629CC8| |6F38B751BB649FDC057D7BE40E1892A1BA10E37075285B3B778A2B92D7CDBEDDECB| |B827D57B0EF2AF6FD4A7C8BEC01584691420DEF6FF4E7B5C0AA3F60CD5FF0B1C414| |7366C5959AAD457CE013B195B276296B37B076036BFB59FBB5F89661667AD947873| |DF3BA2FA0FF13F9197C29BEE59C6F799CFD7482755130D80536C5C0A71253897773| |566E426BDE02CF6F933BE42ED8BA073E93D86AD453D55FA1BD11AD169AB3F61B661| |5BCCD9A4972907586C861F0B9C4D6F35BD7BFC0FA0AAE6266AD1B786E5D03C3EBE0| |A6C434F29D1B2F224FB81BBCD043F6927DE096C40438D3C001B4F69FE421F90BDC1| |6DF10F387AE41EBBC445E26AF8091ABE0AAC4B460A67A0BBF6F380846026017BFAF| |C3857D7834C3364B2EA58BD241A5A30F6F6F8816E56A8A723575713555892D069B8| |AD1D660E477B5FC8EB2066DC5EEC96A2FB0C60A947881D253A0F41628C9930A57C4| |90913F3D64CB411B312889A6D9916E5FFE6CB046C5EAA6D5CD2CDF3DF973466911E| |CE183FF9AA6258FE78A35F7E3A47F1BFC0F3D27CEAAF7C81BDF27DF916FC141D948| |71F85AFF004562DA22| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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