TrampMcghee Posted October 16, 2021 Posted October 16, 2021 I have a 50 cold/water/mace defender that I enjoy playing. I was initially following a build guide intended for a billion dollar budget. I didn't know any better at the time as I had just started the game up after finding Homecoming. It's great to be back. Now that I've spent a month getting my feet wet, I realize that I can't afford all of the purples in the guide I'm following. Plus I'm not 100% sure this is the defender I want to invest in. Does anyone have a semi reasonable budget build they could recommend? Something in the 200M influence range or cheaper? Many thanks!
Without_Pause Posted October 16, 2021 Posted October 16, 2021 It would be helpful posting what you have now. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
TrampMcghee Posted October 16, 2021 Author Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Apologies, that would be helpful I suppose. This is the build I was originally going for, but I started slotting it out and realized this is way outta my price range. Way too many purples and assorted proc enhancements. Definitely not a budget build and much more than I'm willing to invest to see if I really enjoy this flavor of defender. I've combed the forums and haven't seen many other cold/water builds listed at all. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Cryoshard: Level 50 Science DefenderPrimary Power Set: Cold DominationSecondary Power Set: Water BlastPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: Mace MasteryPower Pool: Leaping Hero Profile:Level 1: Infrigidate -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)Level 1: Aqua Bolt -- SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(A), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(50), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(50)Level 2: Ice Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 4: Super Speed -- WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(A)Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(50), UnbGrd-Max HP%(50)Level 8: Water Burst -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(50), Rgn-Dmg(50)Level 10: Whirlpool -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(50)Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)Level 14: Boxing -- SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(50)Level 16: Tough -- GldArm-ResDam(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(50)Level 18: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)Level 20: Dehydrate -- SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(50), Dvs-Hold%(50), Dvs-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Dvs-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)Level 22: Arctic Fog -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(50), StdPrt-ResKB(50), Ksm-ToHit+(50)Level 24: Tidal Forces -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 26: Sleet -- Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Ann-ResDeb%(50), AchHee-ResDeb%(50)Level 28: Water Jet -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Apc-Acc/Rchg(50), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(50)Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 32: Heat Loss -- SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(A), SynSck-EndMod(50), SynSck-Dam/Rech/Acc(50), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(50), SynSck-Dam/Rech(50), PwrTrns-+Heal(50)Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 38: Geyser -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(50), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(50), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(50), OvrFrc-End/Rech(50), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(50)Level 41: Combat Jumping -- Rct-ResDam%(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(50)Level 44: Steam Spray -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), Bmbdmt-Dam(50), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(50), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(50), Artl-Acc/Dam(50)Level 47: Hydro Blast -- Dcm-Build%(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(50), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(50), Dcm-Acc/Dmg(50)Level 49: Frostwork -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(50), Prv-Heal/Rchg(50), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(50), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(50), Prv-Heal(50)Level 1: Vigilance Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A)Level 2: Stamina -- 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Psylenz0511 Posted October 16, 2021 Posted October 16, 2021 How do you get so many slots in a level 49 power. I thought you only got 3 more at level 50!
TrampMcghee Posted October 17, 2021 Author Posted October 17, 2021 If you respec at 50, you pick all your powers first, and then slot everything. So you can freely 6 slot anything you have, regardless of what order you picked it in. At least I think that's how it worked, it's been a few weeks since I did it last. 1
Psylenz0511 Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, TrampMcghee said: If you respec at 50, you pick all your powers first, and then slot everything. So you can freely 6 slot anything you have, regardless of what order you picked it in. At least I think that's how it worked, it's been a few weeks since I did it last. I learned something today. Was it like that when Live ended in 2012?
Without_Pause Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 I believe it was. To the OP, fully slotted ATOs can cost you up to 96 mill on the high end. Are those okay to be included? FYI, I'm talking the basic ones. You can make them Superior once you hit 50. What I have been doing on characters as I level them is slot as normal for how I would do a common IO build, and then seek out uncommon sets as replacements. There are certain rare IOs I will see out, but that's about it for high end cost outside of the ATOs. I think those builds fall in the line of 200 mil. To me that's about where your budget lies. Note, this is a recent change because my default has always to level on SOs/common IOs. If a build can make it to 50, then I debate investing into it. About half of my 50s have switched over to IO sets currently. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
TrampMcghee Posted October 18, 2021 Author Posted October 18, 2021 Yeah, that's what I've done on a couple of other heroes, go with normal ATO's and then use catalysts on them all when I can afford it.
Doomguide2005 Posted October 29, 2021 Posted October 29, 2021 One method I've used is start my second build placing the real expensive sets and IOs in the second build while placing the rest plus whatever is substituting for the pricey IOs in the first build. I'll slot the expensive stuff over time as my inf and hopefully a few lucky drops happen along the way while playing and using the first build. Eventually the second build has all the expensive needs slotted, unslot (or even repurchase) the inexpensive IOs and move them into the second and now primary build. Then you can use what's left as the basis for an alt build or move them to either storage or another new character. Rinse repeat.
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