brasilgringo Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 Hi Forum Gurus - I've been seeing some shennanigans lately with Rad/SS buids on Trapdoor and other tests. I'd like to get your input on an upgrade for my current build. It's good enough to farm with, and I really like Gloom/Dark Oblit and the proc set up (including RT & GZ). But I feel like I probably should work in Taunt, and I think it's out of date a bit on what the build can do. Any tips? Much appreciated! This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Radiation ArmorSecondary Power Set: Super StrengthPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)Level 1: Jab -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(3), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(15), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(15), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)Level 2: Gamma Boost -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 4: Haymaker -- Hct-Dam%(A), TchofDth-Dam%(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(5), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7), GldStr-%Dam(7), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(34)Level 6: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 8: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)Level 10: Fallout Shelter -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)Level 12: Radiation Therapy -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), TchoftheN-%Dam(13), Erd-%Dam(13), ScrDrv-Dam%(42), PrfZng-Dam%(45), Obl-%Dam(48)Level 14: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 18: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), Prv-Absorb%(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(33)Level 20: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), UnbGrd-ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(25), LucoftheG-Def(31)Level 26: Cross Punch -- Erd-%Dam(A), Obl-%Dam(31), ScrDrv-Dam%(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)Level 28: Rage -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(29)Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)Level 32: Knockout Blow -- TchofDth-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(33), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(33), Mk'Bit-Dam%(36), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)Level 35: Ground Zero -- Erd-%Dam(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(43), TchofLadG-%Dam(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(48), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), ShlBrk-%Dam(50)Level 38: Foot Stomp -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), Arm-Dam%(39), Erd-%Dam(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(40), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40)Level 41: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Apc-Dam%(42), GldJvl-Dam%(42), CldSns-%Dam(43), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(43)Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), PstBls-Dam%(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), CldSns-%Dam(46), Ann-ResDeb%(50)Level 47: Meltdown -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 2: Stamina -- EffAdp-EndMod(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Portal Jockey Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: The Atlas Medallion Level 20: Double Jump ------------ 1
Gobbledigook Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 Maybe something with Fold space? Here is a rough idea for you to ponder. It lose GZ but could be put back in if you messed with it. I tried not to mess with your build/procs too much. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Radiation ArmorSecondary Power Set: Super StrengthPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: TeleportationPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), UnbGrd-Max HP%(31), ImpArm-ResPsi(34)Level 1: Jab -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(3), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(15), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(15), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)Level 2: Gamma Boost -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 4: Haymaker -- Hct-Dam%(A), TchofDth-Dam%(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(5), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7), GldStr-%Dam(7), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(34)Level 6: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 8: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), ImpArm-ResPsi(37), Ags-Psi/Status(46)Level 10: Fallout Shelter -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), ImpArm-ResPsi(37)Level 12: Radiation Therapy -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), TchoftheN-%Dam(13), Erd-%Dam(13), ScrDrv-Dam%(42), PrfZng-Dam%(45), Obl-%Dam(48)Level 14: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 18: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), Prv-Absorb%(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(33)Level 20: Combat Teleport -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), UnbGrd-ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36), ImpArm-ResPsi(37)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(25), LucoftheG-Def(31)Level 26: Teleport -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 28: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)Level 32: Knockout Blow -- TchofDth-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(33), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(33), Mk'Bit-Dam%(36), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)Level 35: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)Level 38: Foot Stomp -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), Arm-Dam%(39), Erd-%Dam(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(40), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40)Level 41: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Apc-Dam%(42), GldJvl-Dam%(42), CldSns-%Dam(43), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(43), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), PstBls-Dam%(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), CldSns-%Dam(46), Ann-ResDeb%(50)Level 47: Meltdown -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ImpArm-ResPsi(48)Level 49: Fold Space -- Acc-I(A)Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(48), Mrc-Rcvry+(50)Level 2: Stamina -- EffAdp-EndMod(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Portal Jockey Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: The Atlas Medallion ------------ 1
brasilgringo Posted February 3, 2022 Author Posted February 3, 2022 Thanks I will take a look. I iike GZ for the damage and slight heal for teams, tho. 1
Onlyasandwich Posted February 3, 2022 Posted February 3, 2022 5 hours ago, brasilgringo said: out of date Honestly it's a pretty good build overall. I wouldn't want to change too much. The only real weakness I see off-hand is that Foot Stomp and Haymaker are a bit underslotted for accuracy. They aren't bad with Rage up, but still a fair toss from 95% hit chance against +4's. If you're only counting level 50 with Alpha level shift, then you're fine, but it would suffer when exemplaring. I don't see any obvious drops to pick up Taunt. Maybe your travel power I guess? Even that is serving a good purpose with the Winter IO, though. I would only bother to adapt anything here if you are just looking to completely rethink the priorities of the build. Right now you are all-out proc offense, and did a good job of balancing that with proper defenses. You could take a more moderate proc approach and instead hit some combination of softcap melee and higher exotic resists, especially Psi. While doing so, you could juice your global recharge numbers a fair bit as well, making up for some of the difference in lost procs. Even so, your numbers look pretty solid for survivability as is. This would be something to consider if you're going to use this tank for Aeon or potentially other challenge modes that come out, or even 801s. Great build overall! Thank you for sharing.
brasilgringo Posted February 4, 2022 Author Posted February 4, 2022 This is where i ended up. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Radiation ArmorSecondary Power Set: Super StrengthPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)Level 1: Jab -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(3), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(15), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(15), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)Level 2: Gamma Boost -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 4: Haymaker -- Hct-Dam%(A), TchofDth-Dam%(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(5), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7), GldStr-%Dam(7), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(34)Level 6: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 8: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)Level 10: Fallout Shelter -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)Level 12: Radiation Therapy -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), TchoftheN-%Dam(13), Erd-%Dam(13), ScrDrv-Dam%(42), PrfZng-Dam%(45), Obl-%Dam(48)Level 14: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 18: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), Prv-Absorb%(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(33)Level 20: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg(A)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), UnbGrd-ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(25), LucoftheG-Def(31)Level 26: Cross Punch -- Erd-%Dam(A), Obl-%Dam(31), ScrDrv-Dam%(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)Level 28: Rage -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(29)Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)Level 32: Knockout Blow -- TchofDth-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(33), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(33), Mk'Bit-Dam%(36), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)Level 35: Ground Zero -- Erd-%Dam(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(43), TchofLadG-%Dam(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(48), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), ShlBrk-%Dam(50)Level 38: Foot Stomp -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), Arm-Dam%(39), Erd-%Dam(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(40), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40)Level 41: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(42), GldJvl-Dam%(42), CldSns-%Dam(43), Apc-Dam%(43)Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), PstBls-Dam%(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), CldSns-%Dam(46), Ann-ResDeb%(50)Level 47: Meltdown -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: GauntletLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 2: Stamina -- EffAdp-EndMod(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx ReserveLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: The Atlas Medallion------------
Gobbledigook Posted February 5, 2022 Posted February 5, 2022 12 hours ago, brasilgringo said: This is where i ended up. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Radiation ArmorSecondary Power Set: Super StrengthPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Alpha Barrier -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)Level 1: Jab -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(3), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(15), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(15), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17)Level 2: Gamma Boost -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 4: Haymaker -- Hct-Dam%(A), TchofDth-Dam%(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(5), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7), GldStr-%Dam(7), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(34)Level 6: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 8: Proton Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36)Level 10: Fallout Shelter -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)Level 12: Radiation Therapy -- ThfofEss-+End%(A), TchoftheN-%Dam(13), Erd-%Dam(13), ScrDrv-Dam%(42), PrfZng-Dam%(45), Obl-%Dam(48)Level 14: Beta Decay -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)Level 16: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 18: Particle Shielding -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), Prv-Absorb%(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(33)Level 20: Taunt -- PrfZng-Taunt/Rchg(A)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), UnbGrd-ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(25), Rct-ResDam%(25), LucoftheG-Def(31)Level 26: Cross Punch -- Erd-%Dam(A), Obl-%Dam(31), ScrDrv-Dam%(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(37), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37)Level 28: Rage -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(29)Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(31)Level 32: Knockout Blow -- TchofDth-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(33), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(33), Mk'Bit-Dam%(36), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)Level 35: Ground Zero -- Erd-%Dam(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(43), TchofLadG-%Dam(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(48), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), ShlBrk-%Dam(50)Level 38: Foot Stomp -- FuroftheG-ResDeb%(A), Arm-Dam%(39), Erd-%Dam(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(40), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40)Level 41: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(42), GldJvl-Dam%(42), CldSns-%Dam(43), Apc-Dam%(43)Level 44: Dark Obliteration -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), PstBls-Dam%(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), CldSns-%Dam(46), Ann-ResDeb%(50)Level 47: Meltdown -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: GauntletLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 2: Stamina -- EffAdp-EndMod(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx ReserveLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: The Atlas Medallion------------ Proctastic! 😛 I would have dropped Meltdown rather than a travel power and put the SP into fallout shelter losing one UG. Meltdown does give +damage but how often do you use it?
brasilgringo Posted February 5, 2022 Author Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Gobbledegook said: Proctastic! 😛 I would have dropped Meltdown rather than a travel power and put the SP into fallout shelter losing one UG. Meltdown does give +damage but how often do you use it? It looks like a 33% dmg buff in MIDS plus bring the resits >90 and cold/psi up to 60% ... mainly been using it running carnies/psi and when I want a dmg buff for harder targets especially solo (like on Trapdoor). Still ur idea is worth testing thx. 2
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