Present rewards from winter event both do and do not stack

[srmalloy]

The rewards you get from opening presents both do and do not stack, and this fills your trays with useless duplicates. Say you start with tray 1 full of powers, and tray 2 completely empty. If you get an Instant Snowstorm, the icon will appear in tray 2 slot 1. If you get Instant Snowstorm again, an icon for it will appear in tray 2 slot 2 -- but both icons will say "2 uses left". Get it again, and a third icon will be created in tray 2 slot 3, all saying "3 uses left". Each time you get any of the temp powers -- Instant Snowstorm, Build Snow Beast, Mystery Gift, Duplicating Gift -- it creates a new icon in your trays until they fill up, at which point you stop seeing new icons. This has been an issue since Live, with no remedy in sight.

 

Having multiple icons in your trays for the same power is wasteful, and the presents jamming up your trays with redundant icons wastes space, and if you're not paying attention can cause a power that you get from training to not appear in your trays because they're already full of winter-event temp powers.

[Glacier Peak]

I've found that locking the powers in the tray prevents this as long as there are no open slots for powers to be placed in.

[srmalloy]

If you have no open slots in your trays, then you don't get multiples of the same temp power; locking the powers in the tray has no effect on getting extra icons each time you get another temp power.

[Marine X]

I just move 1 copy of each award to an unused tray and then remove the ones that appear after, the one in the unused tray will count up the awards. No need to keep the duplicates. It would be nice if it did it automatically but only takes a few seconds to clear them out. Nowhere nearly as invasive as the deluge of Temporary Costumes at Halloween, lol.

[srmalloy]

Since you only get each temporary costume once, having their icons pile up in your trays is them acting like regular temporary powers. But the winter event temp powers -- and the arrows from the Valentine's event -- still drop a new icon into the first available open slot in your tray each time you get a new charge, while incrementing the charges available for the power.

 

And dropping new copies of the icon into your trays violates one of the hidden rules about powers in your trays -- drag a power from your powers window into a tray, and if the icon for that power is already in the tray, it won't work, but the game will happily fill an entire tray with Instant Snowstorm icons.

[Arc-Mage]

If it bothers you that much just remove the  extras from the power tray. It only takes a second and a click. When you need it just add it back to your tray.

 

This isn’t a bug. These and many other special event temp powers have always stacked in this fashion. 
 

 

[srmalloy]

7 hours ago, Arc-Mage said:

These and many other special event temp powers have always stacked in this fashion. 

So because similar things are broken the same way, we should just live with it, instead of asking that it be looked at for consideration to be fixed.

[Arc-Mage]

On 12/13/2022 at 4:13 PM, srmalloy said:

So because similar things are broken the same way, we should just live with it, instead of asking that it be looked at for consideration to be fixed.

So you believe if something is working as intended and you perceive it as not improving your QoL in game it’s a bug?

 

Again, not a bug. You may have success posting your idea of how this should work under the Suggestions and Feedback forum.

 

 

[srmalloy]

1 hour ago, Arc-Mage said:

Again, not a bug.

Automatically filling your power trays with redundant copies of a power icon is "working as intended"? I verified experimentally that the game will cheerfully drop more than ten copies of the 'Instant Storm' icon into your power trays, even though you can't have more than ten uses accumulated at a time.

[Arc-Mage]

36 minutes ago, srmalloy said:

Automatically filling your power trays with redundant copies of a power icon is "working as intended"? I verified experimentally that the game will cheerfully drop more than ten copies of the 'Instant Storm' icon into your power trays, even though you can't have more than ten uses accumulated at a time.

I'm not saying I agree with the way these Temp Powers were implemented. It's annoying as shit. It's even worse after you do a Respec. After a Respec all those Temp powers get reinserted into ALL your Power Trays. You have to spend the next Three minutes removing them.

 

I'm just saying they are behaving the way they have since Live. The original Devs intended the Powers to Work this way when they are dropped. If it's working as it was intended then it isn't a Bug. 

 

I agree with your complaint. Maybe you will be better served by adding this complaint in another Forum as Feedback or a Suggestion.

[srmalloy]

13 hours ago, Arc-Mage said:

I'm just saying they are behaving the way they have since Live. The original Devs intended the Powers to Work this way when they are dropped. If it's working as it was intended then it isn't a Bug.

You're making the assumption that spamming your power tray with redundant icons is what the devs intended, and not a bug that was simply too low on their to-do list for them to get around to fixing, because it's an annoyance, rather than a game-breaking bug.

[Arc-Mage]

12 hours ago, srmalloy said:

You're making the assumption that spamming your power tray with redundant icons is what the devs intended, and not a bug that was simply too low on their to-do list for them to get around to fixing, because it's an annoyance, rather than a game-breaking bug.

And you are making the assumption that it is a bug. 

 

I see we could go on arguing with each other over this for weeks. If you want someone to see this that may do something about it, post it in the other forums.

[srmalloy]

5 minutes ago, Arc-Mage said:

And you are making the assumption that it is a bug.

The game prevents you from dragging the icon for any individual power into a tray if the icon for that power is already in that tray. You cannot, by your own action, put multiple copies of, say, Instant Snowstorm into tray 2, while receiving multiple awards of the power causes multiple copies of the power icon to appear in the tray. It is not functioning according to the restrictions established on placing power icons in your trays -- restrictions that were in place before the creation of the event-specific temporary powers that fail to conform to this restriction -- therefore it is a bug. The only other alternative is that the prohibition on your putting more than one copy of any power's icon in a single tray is the bug, and the way the event temp power icons will appear multiple times in a single tray proves that the devs intended for you to be able to have entire trays full of nothing but Brawl icons, and the restriction should be removed.

[Arc-Mage]

38 minutes ago, srmalloy said:

The game prevents you from dragging the icon for any individual power into a tray if the icon for that power is already in that tray. You cannot, by your own action, put multiple copies of, say, Instant Snowstorm into tray 2, while receiving multiple awards of the power causes multiple copies of the power icon to appear in the tray. It is not functioning according to the restrictions established on placing power icons in your trays -- restrictions that were in place before the creation of the event-specific temporary powers that fail to conform to this restriction -- therefore it is a bug. The only other alternative is that the prohibition on your putting more than one copy of any power's icon in a single tray is the bug, and the way the event temp power icons will appear multiple times in a single tray proves that the devs intended for you to be able to have entire trays full of nothing but Brawl icons, and the restriction should be removed.

None of this diminishes the fact that you are assuming it isn’t working as intended. I believe it is working as intended. 

[srmalloy]

15 hours ago, Arc-Mage said:

I believe it is working as intended

You can believe it all you want to, but having six powers out of all the powers in the game work differently to all the rest, and then only in the specific case of the game's behavior when you receive the power -- the UI restrictions apply to your placing or moving the icons, so the only way to get multiple copies of the icons in a tray is to randomly receive a new use of the power from your opening a present or delivering a valentine,  is a particularly shoddy implementation, a judgment based on forty years of experience as a computer programmer. If it was intended that you could have multiple copies of one of these powers in a tray, why does the game prevent you from dragging its icon into a tray if the same icon is already in that tray? Why is the only way to get multiple copies of the power icon in a tray not under your control? And if it was intended to work this way, why wasn't it announced when the event powers were rolled out? Surely, having powers that functioned in a way that broke the UI controls would be important enough to tell the players about...