Brute/Tanker: Ice Sword Circle

[steveoatvs]

Would really love to have Ice Sword Circle for my Brute.  Just not sure where to place it.

 

Initial thought was in the Patron Power Pool, because Arctic Mastery seems to be rarely taken. Would love to switch it with Shiver, but would gladly take it over Ice Storm just because the recharge is so long on Ice Storm (120 sec vs 22 sec that Dominator have (Fire Melee's Fire Sword Circle is 20 seconds for reference))

 

Another thought was the Leviathan Mastery, since it has 3 cones already, a PBAoE would be welcomed

(IMO Arctic, Leviathan, and Earth PPs need to be revamped)

[Psyonico]

The problem with changing out any powers that already exist is that your going to have people who like what exists now, so you have to balance what is liked now to what you're changing it to.

[Rudra]

So you know, Arctic Mastery is an Ancillary Power Pool, not a Patron Power Pool. Also, Ancillary Power Pools are designed to give the AT something they are missing. In the case of Brutes and Tankers, that would be ranged damage. I'm not saying they can't have something like Ice Sword Circle, just that it currently goes against the premise of the APPs. So I would recommend coming up with a new power set that includes it, either as a new primary/secondary or as a new APP.

[steveoatvs]

43 minutes ago, Rudra said:

So you know, Arctic Mastery is an Ancillary Power Pool, not a Patron Power Pool. Also, Ancillary Power Pools are designed to give the AT something they are missing. In the case of Brutes and Tankers, that would be ranged damage. I'm not saying they can't have something like Ice Sword Circle, just that it currently goes against the premise of the APPs. So I would recommend coming up with a new power set that includes it, either as a new primary/secondary or as a new APP.

 

Very True! Good Point. My first thought for the Ancillary Powers was because Pyre gets Fire Ball and Mu gets Ball Lightning (and electrifying fences). Ice doesnt really have an AoE attack like that other then Ice Storm

 

1 hour ago, Psyonico said:

The problem with changing out any powers that already exist is that your going to have people who like what exists now, so you have to balance what is liked now to what you're changing it to.

Yea thats been the issue. Do people still like Greater Ice Sword? It didnt get the same treatment as Greater Fire Sword (lower cast time & debuff added). I think that would be a power to consider replacing

[kelika2]

Frozen Aura and Frost does damage now.

Ask for Ice Patch doing DoT damage