Thoughts on my Pistols/Atomic Build

earthaddy · June 18, 2019

I'm only level 31 with generic IOs slotted, but I kinda play this build a little up in your face already, and i don't even have the attacks for it. So I built for defense, and I figure I'll bounce in, hit radioactive cloud, atom smasher and hail of bullets then hop back out to spitting distance. It's probably not the order I would take the powers in, I don't know. I'm still an idiot, but I'm tryin' to learn. This has 32.9% melee defense, 45.4 Ranged defense, and 40.4 AOE defense. I kinda feel like it might be little short on recharge with no perma-hasten, but maybe beta decay helps with that, I gotta learn how these powers work.

Could someone take a look and spruce it up a bit?

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Level 50 Magic Blaster

Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols

Secondary Power Set: Atomic Manipulation

Power Pool: Flight

Power Pool: Leadership

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Pistols

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 1: Electron Shackles

(A) Accuracy IO

Level 2: Dual Wield

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(11) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Empty Clips

(A) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Detonation - Damage/Endurance
(13) Detonation - Damage/Recharge
(15) Detonation - Damage/Range
(15) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(17) Detonation - Damage/Endurance/Range

Level 6: Positron Cell

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(17) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(19) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(19) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(21) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(21) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 8: Bullet Rain

(A) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage
(23) Detonation - Damage/Endurance
(23) Detonation - Damage/Recharge
(25) Detonation - Damage/Range
(25) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(27) Detonation - Damage/Endurance/Range

Level 10: Fly

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 12: Suppressive Fire

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(27) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(29) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(29) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(31) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 14: Hover

(A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Level 16: Beta Decay

(A) To Hit Debuff IO

Level 18: Executioner's Shot

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(33) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(33) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(33) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(34) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Metabolic Acceleration

(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(34) Panacea - Heal
(34) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
(36) Performance Shifter - EndMod

Level 22: Swap Ammo

Level 24: Ionize

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 26: Piercing Rounds

(A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(36) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
(36) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(37) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(37) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
(37) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize

Level 28: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 30: Tactics

(A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
(39) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(40) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance

Level 32: Hail of Bullets

(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
(40) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
(40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown

Level 35: Radioactive Cloud

(A) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold
(43) Superior Entomb - Hold/Recharge
(43) Superior Entomb - Endurance/Recharge
(43) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance
(46) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance/Recharge
(50) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb

Level 38: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 41: Boxing

(A) Empty

Level 44: Atom Smasher

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(45) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 47: Tough

(A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance
(48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(48) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection

Level 49: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Defiance

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Empty

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

(A) Flight Speed IO

Level 2: Health

(A) Miracle - +Recovery
(50) Miracle - Heal

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Endurance Modification IO
(50) Endurance Modification IO

Level 22: Chemical Ammunition

Level 22: Cryo Ammunition

Level 22: Incendiary Ammunition

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earthaddy · June 18, 2019

It was late when I did this, and I already see a couple of things I screwed up. I didn't mean to take suppressive fire at all, much less 6-slot it. Positron Cell is a way better version of the same thing. I also don't think I need all 3 of the Steadfast Protection enhancements to get the 3% defense, thought I did, I might, will have to check. That should free up one power and some slots.

atletikus · June 18, 2019

Perma-hasten, more mobile, more utility, better damage and I would think better survivability due to more regen and 3 different oh-shit powers included . Using Electron Shackles (fastish DoT makes it usable for damage/control) as an attack due to significantly better damage per activation second than Dual Wield. Suggest Vengeance if you mostly plan to team, Afterburner if you solo more. I think math dictates that +End procs are only more beneficial than a third slotted End Mod IO.

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Level 50 Magic Blaster

Primary Power Set: Dual Pistols

Secondary Power Set: Atomic Manipulation

Power Pool: Flight

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Leaping

Power Pool: Leadership

Ancillary Pool: Force Mastery

Hero Profile:

Level 1: Pistols

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 1: Electron Shackles

(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(11) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2: Empty Clips

(A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance
(13) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(15) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(15) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
(21) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize

Level 4: Fly

(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(43) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 6: Positron Cell

(A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(17) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(19) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
(19) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 8: Bullet Rain

(A) Ragnarok - Damage
(21) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(23) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown
(23) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(25) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 10: Ionize

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up

Level 12: Hover

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 14: Swap Ammo

Level 16: Beta Decay

(A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff
(17) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff
(27) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge
(39) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
(40) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(48) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage

Level 18: Executioner's Shot

(A) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Superior Defiant Barrage - Damage/RechargeTime
(33) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(33) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(33) Superior Defiant Barrage - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(34) Superior Defiant Barrage - RechargeTime/+Status

Level 20: Metabolic Acceleration

(A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
(34) Panacea - Heal
(34) Endurance Modification IO
(36) Endurance Modification IO
(48) Healing IO

Level 22: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(27) Recharge Reduction IO
(31) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 24: Combat Jumping

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 26: Piercing Rounds

(A) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage
(29) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(29) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Recharge/Chance for Fire Damage
(36) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Damage/Recharge
(36) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(37) Superior Blaster's Wrath - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 28: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 30: Atom Smasher

(A) Obliteration - Damage
(45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
(45) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
(45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(46) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 32: Hail of Bullets

(A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
(40) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
(40) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(42) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown

Level 35: Radioactive Cloud

(A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold
(37) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(37) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
(39) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
(43) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge
(43) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold

Level 38: Personal Force Field

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 41: Temp Invulnerability

(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(46) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(50) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Endurance

Level 44: Force of Nature

(A) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
(50) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge

Level 47: Assault

(A) Endurance Reduction IO
(48) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 49: Vengeance

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

Level 1: Brawl

(A) Empty

Level 1: Defiance

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

(A) Empty

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

(A) Empty

Level 1: Sprint

(A) Celerity - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

(A) Empty

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

(A) Flight Speed IO

Level 2: Health

(A) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 2: Hurdle

(A) Jumping IO

Level 2: Stamina

(A) Endurance Modification IO
(50) Endurance Modification IO

Level 14: Chemical Ammunition

Level 14: Cryo Ammunition

Level 14: Incendiary Ammunition

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earthaddy · June 18, 2019

Thanks for taking the time to put that together.

I'm wondering, why slot up beta decay so heavily? What am I missing here?

I tried to stay away from purple enhancements, assuming they cost a ton. Is that true?

Why not slot Positron Cell for damage? It holds pretty good without slotting for more hold duration, and it's not aoe or anything where I could totally be a badass controller/blaster. I'm probably missing something here, too.

Do I have enough endurance? Should I add a third end mod that procs endurance? I don't like running out of endurance?

I'm not seeing tactics. I realize pistols doesn't have a snipe, but I don't like to miss when I get debuffed. Is it enough?

Vengeance seems awesome ... if somebody dies. I'm not seeing the value in that.

I'm generally a noob and asking stupid questions. Please don't take any of this as a critique.

atletikus · June 18, 2019

Beta Decay is a great IO-set mule for +3.75% ranged and +6.75% recharge. Totally worth it, especially since you will run Beta Decay pretty much non-stop. As for influence cost; you added Entomb and Avalanche, both of which are sets who sell for 20-25 million a pop, so I assumed you were pretty flush. This is an expensive build, but not much more so than what you fleshed out. Positron Cell can be slotted for damage, but you really don't want to spam it for damage as it will hurt your DPS. Slot as I do and you get the ranged you need, better duration and 7.5% global recharge. Electron Shackles is 50% more damage per activation second and 20% more than Dual Wield. With high defenses, you should be debuffed less. Also, you will have AoE and ST hold to stop debuffers before they can debuff you. It should not be much of a concern team or solo. Besides, many of the sets come with +Accuracy set bonuses and on teams usually there are several who run Tactics at high levels. My build has better endurance management than yours...apart from it being so much faster than your build so it will consume more too (but that is a luxury problem). You can choose not to use both leadership toggles and still be very near soft cap range if you find yourself running dry (or you can drop Assault/Vengeance all together and go with ie. Afterburner. At higher levels there are special veteran powers that can help with what you want (no experience with it though). Vengeance itself is a great power that will turn a losing battle into a winning one, not many Blasters come with that sort of team friendliness/utility. It is also a great IO mule for Luck of the Gambler + Recharge (as is Afterburner).

earthaddy · June 18, 2019

Thanks. That answered a pretty much every question. I'm not flush, however. I got a farm brute that can make some pretty good money "for me," but he's still running generic IOs atm. Mostly I'm trying out a crap-ton of different alts and I have plenty of money to slot them all with generics while I figure out which ones I like best. I don't know what costs how much or any of that stuff. I figure I'll have to get serious about farming at some point to afford things.

This character is one of my favorites so far. And I try to work up builds for my favorites and see how they look on paper, and it's a good way to try and learn about all this crazy set bonus nonsense. Last I played, Hamidon was a pretty new thing, and I only had like one or two of those enhancements slotted. So I really appreciate it when someone takes the time to explain things. Thank you.

plainguy · June 19, 2019

Nice build.

I see the defense cap.

My response comes from a solo mindset. I don't play tanks or scrappers, Mostly Blasters, Corruptors, Defenders, Masterminds. Traps is a big with me for getting Defense cap.

I have a DP kin build set for Melee defense cap but decently capped at several damage types as well along the way.

My mindset is no purple IO's when I can due to price cost.

A build has to be able to handle solo 3/8 minimum.

So with that said here is my only issue with this is DP big power is PBAOE which means he will have really limited defenses when trying to pull that off solo and DP range is short compared to other power sets. Further he has no keep away powers..

EG Devices Caltrops. Assault Rifle Ignite.

Further Atomic is also PBAOE reliant.

I would switch the build around to go for close as possible melee defense cap again as you will be getting close in other typed defense as well. EG smashing and lethal which is a high number of enemies use.

We won't talk Malta or Carnie groups because everyone has a hard time with them.

End game would be super speeding into a group under stealth IO.. Hail of Bullets, disorient from Oppressive Gloom. Bullet Rain, Empty clips, Some other Atomic AOE, Back to Hail of bullets. Kill of running stragglers or just continue onto next group and these half dead mobs will come running back to be killed off by another AOE burst.

This is at least how I would envision this build.

Unfortunately sometimes making a build does not jive with a toon concept.

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