Reikland Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 So I rolled up a FM/Shield Scrapper after i came up with a concept for one but I've never really messed around with shield before so I'm wondering if anyone had some advice or personal experience to share about the set? :)
zarzu Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 Shield is pretty straight forward defense set with some additional +resist and +hp. Essentially what you want to do is softcap your positional defenses and get your resists and hp as high as possible while still accomplishing your goals for the primary (probably perma hasten). 1) Get the two +3% defense IOs and slot them in some resist power (steadfast and gladiators(?)), one with the shield and tough are good mules for these 2) Get tough, weave & maneuver to increase your defenses and resists 3) Add IO sets to get all your positional defenses (melee, ranged, aoe) to 45%+, good sets for this are Mako's Bite, Obliteration, Scirocco's Dervish, a bit more expensive but also more powerful are the ATOs 4) Slot the power that give resistance and max hp fully to not miss out on those bonuses, your main thing is defense, but the rest will help too 5) With a basic setup you should be getting to around 50% defense debuff resistance, you can push this up to 92% by double stacking active defenses (you get it to double stack with perma hasten + one or two recharge IOs, depending on alpha) and then getting the radial ageless destiny power
Murcielago Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 Shield is pretty straight forward defense set with some additional +resist and +hp. Essentially what you want to do is softcap your positional defenses and get your resists and hp as high as possible while still accomplishing your goals for the primary (probably perma hasten). 1) Get the two +3% defense IOs and slot them in some resist power (steadfast and gladiators(?)), one with the shield and tough are good mules for these 2) Get tough, weave & maneuver to increase your defenses and resists 3) Add IO sets to get all your positional defenses (melee, ranged, aoe) to 45%+, good sets for this are Mako's Bite, Obliteration, Scirocco's Dervish, a bit more expensive but also more powerful are the ATOs 4) Slot the power that give resistance and max hp fully to not miss out on those bonuses, your main thing is defense, but the rest will help too 5) With a basic setup you should be getting to around 50% defense debuff resistance, you can push this up to 92% by double stacking active defenses (you get it to double stack with perma hasten + one or two recharge IOs, depending on alpha) and then getting the radial ageless destiny power This
Dismiss Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 This is my FM/SD scrapper. I built it as a generalist, but basically tried to push resists as high as possible without compromising ST or AOE damage. The build is at 68% s/l resist, you can get it higher, close to cap even, but it requires dropping ball lightning. I think it's also theoretically a dps increase to drop greater fire sword and use scorch, because you can fit both scorch and incinerate in under the critical strikes buff, but I like hitting mobs with GFS. The build isn't really cheap and endurance is an issue under heavy AOE, although you can maintain the ST attack chain for quite a while. that said, it's quite fun to play. I've soloed ITF at +1 in one hour and I think I could push that to +2 or +3, but I haven't had time. Could probably also run it faster if I played smarter. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1535;709;1418;HEX;| |78DA65944B6F125114C7EFC020427996B6D09740DF523B85961A1F312EAC983E484| |848DC993A855B184B28014C7469A226EACE8D4B635CB9716DFC08BE6AE25770E1A6| |ADF1916AB4E2E9FC0F4864C2E477EEFFDE73EE39F7DC217D63D1F5FCD2ADF342F15| |C28E9B5DA5A3657D52B1559B5A5F5829113878F9DDE81A6BE96962529B59421AB37| |61875B538B7243966B52CB160D59CA3787FEA572515665B9AE350D67666BABA4652| |B52E65DA6B92AF58A512EB8CD41CA2814EB34F236A7F2B25A2B1A95E0C58A91D3B2| |75BDB47998C6F5B5B45EAB5316214A6F9ADEDB76C14F837EF408A79B068AA9A8224| |8C6B02A2CFB562112C41FA0FA9DF90DBC435114F8D814A99ADA913C78F42A53079D| |EBCC1C384ABE5664A0581D16F8DA4117E562E3B8B61DECE5FB04762F286012EC893| |313E008C5B5C357B11F969A70081FD34D711D3CE75820A856D1D724F97561CED2D5| |8B58A103619E43A407E32EF277F319B9794DDF0AF20A2D810329E632E8211FAF794| |80DE18D228F7BB4971FB5DBFCE750F3D029F0D869E619E659302210CF4BF102C841| |04380785E2F572377BCD6E5A4909629535C8DD8B70F7A23F99DCC5FBB4B69FB3E9D| |F14E8CE35643ABAC12C401F2B320DE877C97790F7197CCC953C03A34FC0B1A7A04A| |6B8779EDF057EC3DF1059CDC65EE810F686D98730A6FF3DC3BF0F82BE66BE61B30F| |616F4D3098DB0EF089F5AEC17728835C013BF9907CC3FE0475A3E0E5FCBF8366A9D| |78CFFC00EEBB8498E2F85327E137B3C09C63CE83B349E60BF8FAA9AE69BE41D3DCB| |D59BE5D091F33C0ECE69B4EF568DC5D6D8EBF06D2E2ACC539CE90FAFF371D565BDF| |7423D6311BEF50121DCA7C8792EC50563B948CCADB92A2988AC3D7FADA1B3BCED6B| |F865066702E7BFF348B7219F5B8A2A8D5B54CE34955ECB6FB4DC1EF73BBDF239CB5| |E7A1C5BC9B9E08EEE8BAD3CCCCDC5B6FB3AFB4D99936FB255D9E04DB2B01B2F904F| |F02A113FDB8| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
drdeath50 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 Does /SD require these sets to really shine? just curious I have a lvl 40 /SD atm and was wondering if I should keep going to try to farm some Inf. Seems like its going to be an expensive set choice for me being pretty new to the game again.
MunkiLord Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 There is nothing wrong with taking Maneuvers for SD, but it's not necessary, especially with help from ATOs and potentially Alpha Slot. If I can find my old Fire/SD build from live, I'll share it later. The Trevor Project
Dismiss Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 If you're asking about my build, no. This is a pretty min max build. Maneuvers can be dropped, but you'll have to drop a lot of recharge for it, or drop musculature for agility. That comes at the cost of damage. If you want a cheap, easy to cap SD, you can use maneuvers and agility to easily hit defense caps. You should still do fine damage, but don't expect to be getting the fastest plyon kill time ever or solo things with great speed. Musculature is a pretty good boost in damage. That said, you can also run a sub-optimal attack chain (in fire's case it means you add in fire sword) and then your recharge requirement drops a lot. All you really need on shield is to keep active defense from dropping. This is a long winded way of saying: you can make cheap /SD builds. I didn't take that route.
cprice Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 With this build, is it necessary to have HASTEN? Is there any particular ability to we are looking to have up more often other than the Active Defense? I ask this because I have active defense on auto since it isn't a toggle (which is stupid to me) and have slotted two crafted enhancements there that made it permanent now. So I couldn't possibly make Hasten an auto power now.
slimmatt Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 2.22 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Mutation Scrapper Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Fire Sword (A) Accuracy IO (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (5) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (5) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage Level 1: Deflection (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (7) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (7) Aegis - Resistance (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (11) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 2: Cremate (A) Accuracy IO (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (13) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge (13) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance (15) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage Level 4: Battle Agility (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (15) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 6: True Grit (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge (19) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance (19) Numina's Convalesence - Heal (21) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance Level 8: Build Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge Level 10: Breath of Fire (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage (25) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (25) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (27) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (29) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge (48) Overwhelming Force - Accuracy/Damage Level 12: Active Defense (A) Recharge Reduction IO (29) Recharge Reduction IO Level 14: Boxing (A) Accuracy IOLevel 16: Tough (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (39) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (40) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (40) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 18: Fire Sword Circle (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (36) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance (36) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage (37) Eradication - Damage/Recharge (37) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge (37) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 20: Against All Odds (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 22: Phalanx Fighting (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (34) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (33) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 26: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (27) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (46) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 28: Super Jump (A) Jumping IOLevel 30: Grant Cover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (42) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 32: Greater Fire Sword (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (36) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance (42) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge (42) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (43) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 35: Shield Charge (A) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc (43) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (45) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (45) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (46) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage Level 38: One with the Shield (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status ResistanceLevel 41: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (46) Recharge Reduction IO Level 44: Conserve Power (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 47: Physical Perfection (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (48) Miracle - +Recovery Level 49: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 1: Brawl (A) Accuracy IOLevel 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) EmptyLevel 1: Sprint (A) Run Speed IOLevel 2: Rest (A) EmptyLevel 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IOLevel 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery (31) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (48) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IOLevel 2: Stamina (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy (31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge (31) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod Level 50: Cardiac Total Radial Revamp Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Reactive Total Radial Conversion Level 50: Ageless Partial Radial Invocation Level 50: Assault Total Radial Graft ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1511;677;1354;HEX;| |78DA6593CB6F125114C667609096F22CB4B4F441C1B6D05628D8BAD544AB26A64DA| |844B715E11646492180CF9D898F18357163FC0B6C776EFC5F5CF95A6BAA2E34D515| |1EE7FB78244C32F9CD3DF7FBCE39F7DEB95B7737DC6F2F3E38A3E9DE73D542B3B99| |32F360AF5BA6A0C6DDD6A155A666D4FFBFF38E58D74A676B65455A9F4055335EEE1| |3BDA9DDA50BB6AAFA9D2F98AA9AAA5CE50F3E46AB5AA38CA9596B957765BA34D55A| |8CBC0650DF275A54ABE4EBCA41ACD8A590F9CAF9BC5F4D95A49CA149A2D2937217D| |2CCBFBD0A9F1691B5A449035345B5E18175E068D6D3207BA3C42DDF238B435DDF21| |CCB90EBE0909F0C81AE31F0919356A9A7B39E8BF5DCACE7663D2FEB8D483D3BEAD9| |ED41E4F132AF9F75FCCCEF16AD83BD39F2888D6E9357C0D0911DFC0D8EFF021F3B7| |13EE2B539F76D983B00B36FC027221886C631FC0EFD4F7C817FE23318F9044E7F04| |573F801EE96D04BDE9232BF04E93BAE4F520AFE6E1BED825E6E35A7C7F9163F10FC| |9DE17D97B222CC219E1498C9F8A37C03E03F791EFF81DF23638FFCD6679E6BF9287| |A0571A09EABAD54B3006AD4F62633C83319E418C7B1FE359C4780686D40E531BA67| |68EDA396AE7A81D17ED24B4B6496A22D4A4A8098B668A7B3395443F7EE96786BE19| |D648D0BF44FF33F145B907D15DAEBD0C2E5548135CBE41DE0403923F4E6F5C19982| |B81278AE475B200A6AE81A3E25D60BF0BA7D04B5C7A49F2EC933CF3149997235BA1| |7E85B17DC991A63EFD1AFFDEEA250924A437C995E1DA335C7B966BCF72EDD346F75| |E6B9D7B1D35BAF7B6BDDC3FDF9647CB0C44B20391B581C8FA4064B33F9242E59CD1| |BDF59A6EA986FD72A711691FBA6456E72C1D3F7A319B7E156B9A8DF13E1D82DFFB7| |DFC2F7EF6FB5E62DF665F90CF8521433B1D9421F76132D4FB7EDF177FD5F77D10EF| |7DFF035EBED7E8| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
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