Phantom_Hornet Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Bio Armor Inexhaustible does not give End Drain Resist like it is supposed to. Inexhaustible only gives the Slow resist. I have tried to see if the 3 different forms affect this, but it does not. The End Drain Resist does not appear still. Here are the pics that I have taken of my toggles with combat attributes in all 3 forms. I had some people check their Bio Armor toons and they also see what I am seeing. They have never noticed this until I have brought it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seebs Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 is it possible that "resistance to endurance" goes in a category other than "debuff resistance", like "damage resistance" or "status effect resistance"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Just checked my Dark Armor Scrapper. Murky Cloud also grants END Drain resistance, but it is not listed on any of the combat attributes lists. I think it just doesn't get listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickshooter Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 To be clear, Recovery Resistance isn't the same as EndDrain Resistance. Inexhaustible does give EndDrain resist, there just isn't a monitorable attribute. Buff Trick Arrows! | Buff Poison!Powerset Suggestions: Circus Performers | Telepathy | Symphonic Inspiration | Light Affinity | Force Shield | Wild Instincts | CrystallizationOld Powerset Suggestions: Probability Distortion | Magnetism | Hyper-Intellect I remember reading Probability Distortion a few months back and thinking it was the best player proposed set I'd ever seen. - Arbiter Hawk 💚 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_Hornet Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 I still get end drained from the Malta Sapper, no resistance at all to the end drain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Phantom_Hornet said: I still get end drained from the Malta Sapper, no resistance at all to the end drain Inexhaustible grants 69.2% resistance. And Malta Sappers drain a lot. Is it 1 Sapper zeroing your END bar in a single hit or does it take multiple hits/Sappers to zero your END bar? Edit: Reference for how much is "a lot": https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=malta.malta_sapper.sapp_stick Edited August 9 by Rudra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_Hornet Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 Here is the Dark Armor Murky Cloud pic. It should be showing up in the Combat Attributes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_Hornet Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 3 minutes ago, Rudra said: Inexhaustible grants 69.2% resistance. And Malta Sappers drain a lot. Is it 1 Sapper zeroing your END bar in a single hit or does it take multiple hits/Sappers to zero your END bar? Edit: Reference for how much is "a lot": https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=malta.malta_sapper.sapp_stick This is from one sapper in a single hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickshooter Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 12 minutes ago, Phantom_Hornet said: Here is the Dark Armor Murky Cloud pic. It should be showing up in the Combat Attributes. Again, Recovery Resistance is not the same as Endurance Drain Resistance. Murky Cloud gives Recovery AND Endurance Drain Resistance, but only the Recovery Resistance is visible in Combat Attributes; there is no way to monitor Endurance Drain Resistance currently. Inexhaustible only gives Endurance Drain Resistance, so it won't show up in your Combat Attributes. Buff Trick Arrows! | Buff Poison!Powerset Suggestions: Circus Performers | Telepathy | Symphonic Inspiration | Light Affinity | Force Shield | Wild Instincts | CrystallizationOld Powerset Suggestions: Probability Distortion | Magnetism | Hyper-Intellect I remember reading Probability Distortion a few months back and thinking it was the best player proposed set I'd ever seen. - Arbiter Hawk 💚 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_Hornet Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 Just for clarity, the pics of the Bio armor is my Brute and the pic of the Dark Armor is my Tanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickshooter Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Phantom_Hornet said: I still get end drained from the Malta Sapper, no resistance at all to the end drain Sappers can drain 140 endurance (more if they're higher level than you) from 80 ft away, if you have any Endurance left after they zap you, then you're resisting some of the endurance drain. Edited August 9 by Trickshooter Buff Trick Arrows! | Buff Poison!Powerset Suggestions: Circus Performers | Telepathy | Symphonic Inspiration | Light Affinity | Force Shield | Wild Instincts | CrystallizationOld Powerset Suggestions: Probability Distortion | Magnetism | Hyper-Intellect I remember reading Probability Distortion a few months back and thinking it was the best player proposed set I'd ever seen. - Arbiter Hawk 💚 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 27 minutes ago, Phantom_Hornet said: Here is the Dark Armor Murky Cloud pic. It should be showing up in the Combat Attributes. Like @Trickshooter said, Recovery Drain Resistance and Endurance Drain Resistance are not the same thing. If you look at the power data in your screenshots, Murky Cloud gives both Recovery Drain Resistance and Endurance Drain Resistance. So you see the recovery one in your combat attributes window. Inexhaustible only gives Endurance Drain Resistance, which does not have a listed tracker in the combat attributes window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Phantom_Hornet said: This is from one sapper in a single hit Is that Sapper higher level than you? And if so, how much? (Edit: And how much of your END bar was left from your own attacks and powers before the hit?) Edited August 9 by Rudra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_Hornet Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 Just tested Bio Armor against 2 Sappers lv 54 they got me to 0 end in 15 seconds. 1 Sapper took about 40 seconds Did this without shields on to have max end and no other powers firing off. Here are the hit rolls and damage I got of the testing of them at the start when they attack me. Not sure on the actual end drain values that the Sappers really have. Might have to check on my other toon that does not have End Drain resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom_Hornet Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 Ok, tried it with my WP. Same conditions as my Bio Armor. With only 1 Sapper it took about 10 seconds to reach 0 end. Pic of the hit rolls below. Now the question is why does other powers have the Recovery Resist along with the End Drain resist even though some of them do not have the Recovery resist stated in the description and Bio Armor does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) Well, for starters, your posts show that your Bio Armor character is indeed resisting END Drain. Your Bio Armor character is losing 8.18 END on initial hit followed by 2.07 END per tic after. Your Willpower is losing 26.59 END on initial hit and 6.64 END per tic after. So your Bio Armor is most definitely resisting the Sapper's END Drain. (Edit: And your post shows your Willpower taking 3 END Drain hits, while your Bio Armor took at least 5 END Drain hits.) As for why Inexhaustible only resists END Drain and not REC Drain? I'm going to guess because it also boosts your recovery by 25%. Edited August 10 by Rudra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 4 hours ago, Phantom_Hornet said: Now the question is why does other powers have the Recovery Resist along with the End Drain resist even though some of them do not have the Recovery resist stated in the description and Bio Armor does not. What powers are granting an unstated REC Drain Resistance?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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