Thugs Enforcers and Gaussians

[Xandyr]

Hey all

 

  I noticed you can put the Gaussian's Proc in Enforcers. Can anyone confirm if it procs for ALL the pets? And if it fires regularly/if it's worth slotting it?

 

 Appreciate it!

 

-x

[Maelwys]

  On 11/11/2024 at 1:50 PM, Xandyr said:

Can anyone confirm if it procs for ALL the pets?

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Gaussian Proc in Tactics gets a separate additional opportunity to activate for every additional entity that your Tactics is currently affecting.
So if you're just affecting yourself? One opportunity to activate.

Yourself and 8 pets? 9 opportunities to activate.

When it activates its boost triggers on the owner of Tactics.

 

In Enforcers? Well, each enforcer henchman is running a separate instance of Tactics.
If the player and 5 other henchmen are around that's 7 opportunities for the proc to trigger on each of them, once every 10 seconds.

Gaussian Proc is 1PPM and Tactics has a 30ft AoE. So the BASE chance of activation once every 10 seconds is only 6% (3.81% base, clamped at a minimum of 5+PPM=6%)
Binomial Probability suggests that with 7 targets (6 Henchmen + MM) you'd have a 35.153% likelihood of at least one proc triggering on each Enforcer every 10 seconds.

[StrikerFox]

  On 11/11/2024 at 3:28 PM, Maelwys said:

Binomial Probability suggests that with 7 targets (6 Henchmen + MM) you'd have a 35.153% likelihood of at least one proc triggering on each Enforcer every 10 seconds.

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I don't believe the MM counts as a target for Enforcer's Tactics. The MM does not receive the +tohit buff. Though the Gang War posse does.

 

  On 11/11/2024 at 1:50 PM, Xandyr said:

Can anyone confirm if it procs for ALL the pets? And if it fires regularly/if it's worth slotting it?

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The Gaussian's BU buff will only affect the Enforcers. The more thug pets within range gives it a greater chance to proc on the Enforcers only. T1s, Bruiser and posse will not receive the BU affect.

[Xandyr]

  On 11/11/2024 at 9:18 PM, StrikerFox said:

 

I don't believe the MM counts as a target for Enforcer's Tactics. The MM does not receive the +tohit buff. Though the Gang War posse does.

 

 

The Gaussian's BU buff will only affect the Enforcers. The more thug pets within range gives it a greater chance to proc on the Enforcers only. T1s, Bruiser and posse will not receive the BU affect.

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Ahhh.. thanks for the clarification. 

[SaxyGuitar]

I know this is weeks later, but fun fact for you Xandyr. The Enforcers leadership effect all friendly thug pets. Not just your own. So that "more thugs pets" Fox talks about included not just yours.

[florian2]

An all thugs super team is a wrecking crew.    You owe it to yourself to try this if you never have.  

[Xandyr]

  On 12/4/2024 at 10:07 PM, SaxyGuitar said:

I know this is weeks later, but fun fact for you Xandyr. The Enforcers leadership effect all friendly thug pets. Not just your own. So that "more thugs pets" Fox talks about included not just yours.

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Right. Myself and a couple of friends were toying with all 3 of us making Thugs MMs to reap that benefit.

[StrikerFox]

  On 12/5/2024 at 11:59 PM, Xandyr said:

Right. Myself and a couple of friends were toying with all 3 of us making Thugs MMs to reap that benefit.

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Do the Enforcers have a chance to get double, triple or even more BUs at one time? I didn't notice it when testing it a long time ago but it would be amazing if they do.

[Xandyr]

  On 12/7/2024 at 1:53 AM, StrikerFox said:

 

Do the Enforcers have a chance to get double, triple or even more BUs at one time? I didn't notice it when testing it a long time ago but it would be amazing if they do.

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I'm not sure on that. We didn't check/look for it. We were just amazed at the Defense of the henchmen due to the Enforcers. 

[SaxyGuitar]

To bad minions have such a low dmg cap.

[Xandyr]

I wonder if/when they will rework Beasts, Thugs, and Demons like they did the others. And I still wish we could get Angel Summoning 😎

[StrikerFox]

  On 12/7/2024 at 5:41 AM, Xandyr said:

I'm not sure on that. We didn't check/look for it. We were just amazed at the Defense of the henchmen due to the Enforcers. 

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Just tried it and it looks like only one BU per Enforcer at a time. Tested on Beta vs a pylon for about 5 mins, Gang War/double Gang War was used, while staring at an Enforcer's Combat Attributes screen. It never exceeded +40% tohit and +80% dmg. 

[tidge]

  On 12/7/2024 at 1:53 AM, StrikerFox said:

 

Do the Enforcers have a chance to get double, triple or even more BUs at one time? I didn't notice it when testing it a long time ago but it would be amazing if they do.

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I don't slot the Gaussian's piece in henchmen, but I regularly observe henches that have the Soulbound Allegiance %Build Up piece to have multiple instances of its effect (by watching their power icons).

[SaxyGuitar]

Soulbound can proc off multiple different abilities. Where Gaussian only has one power to proc on the Enforcers. I've not test this on my Bruiser to see if it's really stacking buff wise, but I can confirm I've seen it multiple times on there bar.