Ranged Only Bane

[Nathic69]

A bane build I've come up with the goal was to use only ranged attacks, FF proc is up constantly never seem to wait for a cooldown everything is just up instantly, end is an issue below 50 due to constant spamming but I found the temp power recovery serum makes it fine, not sure where or what to improve. Feel like this is the closest you can get to a blaster on this AT, can take a punch too. Any KB shouldn't be an issue if you open with Web Grenade

 

Make sure to change Frag, Vemon and Web to bane style in the power customization to help it flow faster !

Bane Ranged Only.mbd

[KaizenSoze]

15 hours ago, Nathic69 said:

A bane build I've come up with the goal was to use only ranged attacks, FF proc is up constantly never seem to wait for a cooldown everything is just up instantly, end is an issue below 50 due to constant spamming but I found the temp power recovery serum makes it fine, not sure where or what to improve. Feel like this is the closest you can get to a blaster on this AT, can take a punch too. Any KB shouldn't be an issue if you open with Web Grenade

 

Make sure to change Frag, Vemon and Web to bane style in the power customization to help it flow faster !

Bane Ranged Only.mbd 40.91 kB · 4 downloads

As usual take my comments with a grain of salt.

• You resists are solid. You'll be pretty un-killable at range. I would like more AOE defense, but I am obsessive.
• You have crazy amount of recharge already before the FF procs. And the proc rate MBB and MBV is poor. You could use those slots elsewhere.
• MMB and MBV are pretty weak damage even with procs. I would pick up a Epic pool AOE instead of MBV. At least MMB does 100% KB, where MMV is only 30% and a narrow short cone. The rotation of WAWG, Venom, and Frag will take up all your casting time as it is.
• Speaking on Epic pools. If you're set on Soul, then Gloom is very single target damage if you slot. I would shift slots to that.

Here is my take on an all ranged, support oriented, Bane.

 

Ranged Support Bane - Arachnos Bane Spider Soldier.mbd

[Meknomancer]

On 2/2/2025 at 3:00 PM, KaizenSoze said:

As usual take my comments with a grain of salt.

• You resists are solid. You'll be pretty un-killable at range. I would like more AOE defense, but I am obsessive.
• You have crazy amount of recharge already before the FF procs. And the proc rate MBB and MBV is poor. You could use those slots elsewhere.
• MMB and MBV are pretty weak damage even with procs. I would pick up a Epic pool AOE instead of MBV. At least MMB does 100% KB, where MMV is only 30% and a narrow short cone. The rotation of WAWG, Venom, and Frag will take up all your casting time as it is.
• Speaking on Epic pools. If you're set on Soul, then Gloom is very single target damage if you slot. I would shift slots to that.

Here is my take on an all ranged, support oriented, Bane.

 

Ranged Support Bane - Arachnos Bane Spider Soldier.mbd 43.55 kB · 12 downloads

 

Put the miracle in health, put the preventetive in vengeance. Have to assume your going ageless/cardiac/vigor at 50 and running recovery serums to get you there. A single attack chain and your endurance is gone.

[KaizenSoze]

1 minute ago, Meknomancer said:

 

Put the miracle in health, put the preventetive in vengeance. Have to assume your going ageless/cardiac/vigor at 50 and running recovery serums to get you there. A single attack chain and your endurance is gone.

Ageless is all I need at 50, running Muscular not Cardiac. Not running out of endurance at sub 50 either.

 

I don't use serums on this toon either. That is with dozens of hours of playtime at least.

 

Endurance is not an issue.

[Meknomancer]

2 minutes ago, KaizenSoze said:

Ageless is all I need at 50, running Muscular not Cardiac. Not running out of endurance at sub 50 either.

 

I don't use serums on this toon either. That is with dozens of hours of playtime at least.

 

Endurance is not an issue.

 

I meant one of those. Ageless it is. Your end drain just from running all those toggles is over 2/3 of your recovery.

[tidge]

I have no comments on any specific build, but I feel like adding this: Endurance burn/Recovery (on a pre-incarnate level 50 build with accolades) is something I try to remember(*1) to evaluate. It isn't unusual for me to discover that a particular character doesn't need all the +Recovery that it may have needed while leveling up. Sometimes this is from set bonuses, sometimes it is because of Enhancement's boosting Endurance reduction. [Also note: I rarely use Hasten, so I typically neither have the eventual Endurance payment nor the faster cycling through certain powers.]

 

If @KaizenSoze says Endurance isn't an issue, I have no reason to doubt it.

 

(*1) My evaluation is typically as simple as using an unslotter and running though a variety of content. Sometimes I'll notice Endurance spend is more of an issue at lower levels, but not always... especially once Accolades are in the build and if powers used at lower-levels have Endurance reduction.

[KaizenSoze]

VEAT toggles are cheap and I don't proc out my AOEs which saves a lot of endurance.

 

[tidge]

[desarix]

How well are you soloing on this build? I like to do flashbacks  and do the story arcs a lot so I need to solo them a lot. Do you think that the Crab and Bane are mainly for groups. I do group but doing story arcs are my favourite content. It would be hard for me not to be able  to at least +1 the story arcs. I enjoy TFs too. I tend to do at least one daily. Been thinking of rolling either a Crab or Bane for some time as I have never played one even on live. Is this build viable for what I want to do?

[KaizenSoze]

6 hours ago, desarix said:

How well are you soloing on this build? I like to do flashbacks  and do the story arcs a lot so I need to solo them a lot. Do you think that the Crab and Bane are mainly for groups. I do group but doing story arcs are my favourite content. It would be hard for me not to be able  to at least +1 the story arcs. I enjoy TFs too. I tend to do at least one daily. Been thinking of rolling either a Crab or Bane for some time as I have never played one even on live. Is this build viable for what I want to do?

 Ranged Banes can solo, but single target damage is not great. Mace melee banes can solo just fine with the understand that they can be a bit fragile.

 

 My fully built out melee Bane can solo most groups at 4x8. Pretty much anything a 4x4.

 

Ranged Banes are great on teams, so much support and AOE damage. Need more defense, check, need -resists, check, need AOE immobilize and damage...

 

Remember you can have up to three builds per character. So, why not both types.

[desarix]

True, forgot about the extra builds. You have to buy all the enhancements sets for the other builds. Well no that is beyond my budget and quite difficult for me. So I must decide which build to use.

Edited February 18 by desarix

[Octogoat]

On 2/16/2025 at 9:50 AM, desarix said:

True, forgot about the extra builds. You have to buy all the enhancements sets for the other builds. Well no that is beyond my budget and quite difficult for me. So I must decide which build to use.

You can use the first build to get the inf for the second build that's what I did with my tuna/widow.

[desarix]

2 hours ago, Octogoat said:

You can use the first build to get the inf for the second build that's what I did with my tuna/widow.

Clever . Okay that will work thanks. I made my new toon but wow struggling to do missions. I will group till 24. I am level 8. After 24  can I solo mission or story arcs with no EBs at -1?

Edited February 18 by desarix

[Octogoat]

2 hours ago, desarix said:

Clever . Okay that will work thanks. I made my new toon but wow struggling to do missions. I will group till 24. I am level 8. After 24  can I solo mission or story arcs with no EBs at -1?

Bane becomes much easier with venom and frag grenade and even easier after 24th

Edited February 18 by Octogoat

[desarix]

I am 18 so just 6 more levels to go. Should be good. Then I will dance at 24 and solo some arcs and see how it plays.