Focused Feedback: Story Arc - 'Cutting Back Old Growth' - Erin West (Level 40-50)

[The Curator]

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Cutting Back Old Growth - Erin West (Level 40-50)

“'Crey CARES!' That's the tagline of Crey's newest PR campaign, engineered by their rising marketing star, Erin West. Now she's got a new plan... hire a 'rogue with a heart of gold' to lead Alpha Team, the premiere subteam of the Altruist Division, Crey's new supergroup of unmasked Paragon Protectors known as the 'Real-ID Protectors'. And you are just the rogue to play the role, regardless of the actual makeup of your heart." 

 

• CONTACT: Erin West

• LOCATION: Kallisti Wharf /thumbtack 7213 55 2649
• ALIGNMENT / LEVEL: Rogue, Level 40-50
• OUROBOROS / ARC: 28.03

 

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[Velvet Violet]

There is a known issue with this arc where certain NPCs in the final mission might not despawn when they are supposed to.

[GM Solace]

Mission  "Investigate Utopia Complex" by Erin West (KW) - is it WAI or a bug that there is nothing in the map window? Not even "Map not available"? aka "Reveal does NOTHING"

[Velvet Violet]

3 hours ago, GM Solace said:

Mission  "Investigate Utopia Complex" by Erin West (KW) - is it WAI or a bug that there is nothing in the map window? Not even "Map not available"? aka "Reveal does NOTHING"

 

Currently WAI due to the odd way parts of the map lean, but we're working on a solution

[Voltor]

Gone through the arc a few times, nice story to it.

 

Anyone having any luck with the bonus badges?|

[Rikmach]

53 minutes ago, Voltor said:

Gone through the arc a few times, nice story to it.

 

Anyone having any luck with the bonus badges?|

 

I know one of them is gotten by persistently asking a reporter about something they don't want to discuss, but not sure on the other one.

[termyt]

During the mission where we have the option to split the team, I chose to go alone but Blinding Blade came with me anyways.  The text implies I did go alone, so I assume this is an error.

[laudwic]

Haven't played the mission, just a comment, are you sure you want to use the term "Real ID" considering its the name to a US federal act related to minimum requirements for state identification documents. . . . 

[bellpei]

Had an interesting glitch related to this arc on Ouroboros. I'm on a vigilante and it is showing up in my available Ouro arcs though refusing to load. I'm pretty sure it shouldn't even be on my list as a vigilante. 

[termyt]

In the "Meet the team" mission, Shadow Dragon's mission objective does not disappear once you speak to her.  Mission finishes as it should, though.

[M I Abrahms]

I've been checking out my options on this run, and in the mission where you split the team I've found a possible issue with the inevitable rescue. I may have just missed the objective on my first run, but I could not find it, and had to restart the mission to try again, but on a recent run, it was Binding Blade that survived, and they got up from their spawn point, and started fighting as normal, leaving me unable to talk to them to finish the mission.

EDIT: Ooh, this one's a bit of a mess. I had West check up on Radiant Dawn, so I went in with four members of the squad. When I got to the split, I let the teammate split us up, and they sent both Blades and Shadow with me, and the Sacred Stone basically went off alone. When I found her (eventually) her text window read thus:

"You kneel down and check your unconscious team member's pulse... It seems like they're still alive, but barely. It looks like the others are breathing as well. The others are nowhere to be found!"

EDIT2: Wow, something *really* went wonky here. Not only was Sacred Stone considered 'lost' even though they're the one I found, but it also decided that Binding Blade was injured as well, despite the fact that they were with me for the Split the Team mission.

Edited June 4 by M I Abrahms

[Velvet Violet]

23 hours ago, termyt said:

During the mission where we have the option to split the team, I chose to go alone but Blinding Blade came with me anyways.  The text implies I did go alone, so I assume this is an error.

 

This is a rare bug that happens, I cannot get it to replicate. If you can get it to happen again, please let me know your character AT, if all of the Alphas were in the mission or not, and what dialog selections you made for splitting the team.

[Velvet Violet]

21 hours ago, bellpei said:

Had an interesting glitch related to this arc on Ouroboros. I'm on a vigilante and it is showing up in my available Ouro arcs though refusing to load. I'm pretty sure it shouldn't even be on my list as a vigilante. 

 

Nice catch.

[Velvet Violet]

3 hours ago, M I Abrahms said:

I've been checking out my options on this run, and in the mission where you split the team I've found a possible issue with the inevitable rescue. I may have just missed the objective on my first run, but I could not find it, and had to restart the mission to try again, but on a recent run, it was Binding Blade that survived, and they got up from their spawn point, and started fighting as normal, leaving me unable to talk to them to finish the mission.

EDIT: Ooh, this one's a bit of a mess. I had West check up on Radiant Dawn, so I went in with four members of the squad. When I got to the split, I let the teammate split us up, and they sent both Blades and Shadow with me, and the Sacred Stone basically went off alone. When I found her (eventually) her text window read thus:

"You kneel down and check your unconscious team member's pulse... It seems like they're still alive, but barely. It looks like the others are breathing as well. The others are nowhere to be found!"

EDIT2: Wow, something *really* went wonky here. Not only was Sacred Stone considered 'lost' even though they're the one I found, but it also decided that Binding Blade was injured as well, despite the fact that they were with me for the Split the Team mission.

 

Yeah, you're only supposed to get 2 people to go with you ever. Binding Blade is funky and occasionally sticks with the team. What AT is the character that played the mission? 

[Voltor]

Hm, no matter what dialogs i select, when I get to the split up mission at the end with the unconscious Alpha's there is always a clickable that says can't be completed yet.

[Velvet Violet]

40 minutes ago, Voltor said:

Hm, no matter what dialogs i select, when I get to the split up mission at the end with the unconscious Alpha's there is always a clickable that says can't be completed yet.

 

If you get rid of either Shadow Dragon or Radiant Dawn prior to this mission, then split the team 2 and 2, there will be no one left there. In that event, it activates and is what allows you to complete the mission.

[Velvet Violet]

Here are a couple of hints about the bonus badges:

1) Uncomfortable Truths - You might be able to break Ken's brain if you confront him about his deeply held beliefs, but he'll only listen if he believes you're speaking in good faith.

2) Truth Seeker - A current tragedy might cause West to tell you about a past tragedy, assuming she likes you enough to open up.

[M I Abrahms]

10 hours ago, Velvet Violet said:

 

Yeah, you're only supposed to get 2 people to go with you ever. Binding Blade is funky and occasionally sticks with the team. What AT is the character that played the mission? 

Ice/Ice Stalker. During the arc, I sent Radient Dawn back to get checked up on, entering the mission with four. Got to the point where you split, and let Binding Blade decide the split. Noticed that I was travelling with Binding Blade, Blazing Blade, and Shadow Dragon, with only Sacred Stone going the other way. When they 'replaced' everyone, even Shadow Dragon was swapped out.

Spent the entirety of the finale confused, because to the best of my knowledge, there WAS no 'missing' team members, only to find Radiant Dawn, Sacred Stone, and Shadow Dragon as the final encounter.

[M I Abrahms]

8 hours ago, Velvet Violet said:

Here are a couple of hints about the bonus badges:

1) Uncomfortable Truths - You might be able to break Ken's brain if you confront him about his deeply held beliefs, but he'll only listen if he believes you're speaking in good faith.

2) Truth Seeker - A current tragedy might cause West to tell you about a past tragedy, assuming she likes you enough to open up.

Interesting. I asked about this at another point, and another dev said that getting Uncomfortable Truths first means I could be locked out of Truth Seeker somehow, but that it was possible to get them both on one run.

[Velvet Violet]

13 hours ago, M I Abrahms said:

Ice/Ice Stalker. During the arc, I sent Radient Dawn back to get checked up on, entering the mission with four. Got to the point where you split, and let Binding Blade decide the split. Noticed that I was travelling with Binding Blade, Blazing Blade, and Shadow Dragon, with only Sacred Stone going the other way. When they 'replaced' everyone, even Shadow Dragon was swapped out.

Spent the entirety of the finale confused, because to the best of my knowledge, there WAS no 'missing' team members, only to find Radiant Dawn, Sacred Stone, and Shadow Dragon as the final encounter.

 

When you say "replaced everyone", do you mean after the mutiny? From what you're saying, Binding Blade and Sacred Stone (BiB staying with you is a bug that I am trying to work out) should have been sent away and then been both lost, leaving Blazing Blade and Shadow Dragon on your team. Then you'd have had Moon Fang, White Haze, and Slaughterscape on your team in the next door mission with BlB and SD. Did that happen? If not, who was it? Did you acquiesce and leave or force the mutiny? If they mutinied, who turned on you? And did you then tell West that you wanted all of the mutineers removed from the team? If you did, do you remember who spawned in the "Deal with Alpha Team" mission?

 

In case no one could tell, this arc has a lot of moving parts

[Velvet Violet]

13 hours ago, M I Abrahms said:

Interesting. I asked about this at another point, and another dev said that getting Uncomfortable Truths first means I could be locked out of Truth Seeker somehow, but that it was possible to get them both on one run.

 

It's possible to get them both in one run. Getting Uncomfortable Truths might possibly have a minor negative impact on meeting the relationship requirements with West required to kick off the Truth Seeker sidequest, but it's only 1 of 4 dialog choices that does so. 

[M I Abrahms]

7 hours ago, Velvet Violet said:

 

When you say "replaced everyone", do you mean after the mutiny? From what you're saying, Binding Blade and Sacred Stone (BiB staying with you is a bug that I am trying to work out) should have been sent away and then been both lost, leaving Blazing Blade and Shadow Dragon on your team. Then you'd have had Moon Fang, White Haze, and Slaughterscape on your team in the next door mission with BlB and SD. Did that happen? If not, who was it? Did you acquiesce and leave or force the mutiny? If they mutinied, who turned on you? And did you then tell West that you wanted all of the mutineers removed from the team? If you did, do you remember who spawned in the "Deal with Alpha Team" mission?

 

In case no one could tell, this arc has a lot of moving parts

Well, on my run I avoided the mutiny, but yes, after the mission where you split the team.

No, Sacred Stone is the one that went down the other tunnel to Eden. Both Blades and Shadow Dragon were with me, as far as the bug goes, but after that mission, Radiant Dawn, Binding Blade and Sacred Stone were out, and Moon Fang, White Haze and Slaughterscape were in, along with Blazing Blade and Shadow Dragon. 

[Velvet Violet]

3 hours ago, M I Abrahms said:

Well, on my run I avoided the mutiny, but yes, after the mission where you split the team.

No, Sacred Stone is the one that went down the other tunnel to Eden. Both Blades and Shadow Dragon were with me, as far as the bug goes, but after that mission, Radiant Dawn, Binding Blade and Sacred Stone were out, and Moon Fang, White Haze and Slaughterscape were in, along with Blazing Blade and Shadow Dragon. 

 

Bug should be fixed with the latest patch. Unless you specifically ask to take Binding Blade with you, they are not SUPPOSED to follow you (the dialog tells you who is supposed to be with you and who goes on the other team). If they keep following after this patch, please inform.

[Voltor]

Well I finally cracked the Rosetta stone as it were and got the Truth Seeker badge. 

 

First, my compliments on this story arc. Very well done.

 

However I noticed that Truth Seeker is only awarding to the mission leader, is that Working As Intended?

 

Edit the arc was done in Flashback Mode.

 

Edit 2: Well ran it again, this time outside of Ouro. Made sure the drone alt was with me in all missions and even dragged it with me to all the contacts to talk to.  Badge did not get awarded to the drone.  

Edited Saturday at 01:24 AM by Voltor