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Have you ever yearning for more type of Incarnate Power to use? Is there a very devastating NPC power out there that makes you go “Wow!” and wished to use it as a Judgement Power? Is your favorite official enemy group, or a thematically fitting one for your toon, not represented yet for the Lore slot? Think that the choices for Hybrid power are too limited?

 

Here we can ask for what Incarnate Power we can add into the old slots to give players more option to use. Using old FX and animations are preferable to save time and manpower, ensuring efficiency.

 

I will start with ideas for two particular Incarnate Slots:

 

Judgement

Viral (Extreme Toxic damage)

Targeted AoE; Core have up to 20% chance of inflicting a Mag 5 Hold on foes; Radial will additionally inflict up to -50% Def(All) on the foes.

 

Bleeding (Extreme Lethal DoT, slightly above overall damage due to DoT)

Targeted Self Teleport, then PBAoE; Core have up to 20% chance of a Mag 5 Fear on foes; Radial will additionally inflict up to -30% Res(All) in the foes.

 

Refulgent (Extreme Psionic/Energy Damage over Time)

Cone (akin to Vorpal); Core have up to 20% chance to inflict an additional damage at least 1.5 Energy damage, applying up to LT (Lieutenant) at middle tier to all ranks at top tier; Radial will additionally inflict inflict -Regen in affected foes.

 

Hybrid

Defense

Auto Resistance(DMG) and Def(DMG) by a small amount; base and Core grants chance of increasing Res(DMG) and Def(DMG) per hit to self; Radial grants chance of Continous per hit, which grants a +5 Mag Resistance to all mezzing statuses for ten seconds.

 

Order

Auto To-Hit by a small amount; base and core grants chance of increasing To-Hit per hit to self and nearby leaguemates; Radial grants a chance of giving Leaguemates +Res(All) for several seconds per hit.

 

What new ideas for old Incarnare slots you have in mind?

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I still want Zeus’s lightning (or whatever the name is for what statesman/imperious/tyrant has.

 

I’ve also had reason to want council lore pets at one point, that was before the council buffs, so they would have been pretty weak then, but would be fun to have now.

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1 hour ago, Psyonico said:

I still want Zeus’s lightning (or whatever the name is for what statesman/imperious/tyrant has.

 

I’ve also had reason to want council lore pets at one point, that was before the council buffs, so they would have been pretty weak then, but would be fun to have now.

Unless it’s a Melee Cone, it might be thematically overlapping with Ion as both are lightning-based Judgements.

 

Council sounds fun. Other additions I’d like to see are Circle of Thorns wizards (Demons are Circle of Thorns’ hellspawns), Primal Clockworks, the Mu, Skulls, Hellions, Carnival of Light / War / Vengeance, and the Legacy Chain.

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It’s a lightning PBAoE, so it is different than Ionic.

 

I’ve settled on ionic knowing we’ll never get a player version of it.

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What this team needs is more Defenders

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19 hours ago, LightMaster said:

Hybrid

Defense

Auto Resistance(DMG) and Def(DMG) by a small amount; base and Core grants chance of increasing Res(DMG) and Def(DMG) per hit to self; Radial grants chance of Continous per hit, which grants a +5 Mag Resistance to all mezzing statuses for ten seconds.

This already exists. 

 

Hybrid Melee Core Embodiment: This power grants the user a stacking Regeneration, Resistance, and Status Protection buff for each enemy within a 10 foot radius. The effect reaches its maximum strength at 9 enemies. This power also grants a very large Regeneration, Resistance, and Status Protection buff regardless of nearby foes. Equipping this Hybrid power grants a passive boost to Regeneration at all times.

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=incarnate.hybrid.melee_genome_8

 

Hybrid Melee Radial Embodiment: This power grants the user a stacking Regeneration, Defense, and Status Protection buff for each enemy within a 10 foot radius. The effect reaches its maximum strength at 9 enemies - these enemies will be taunted by this power. Equipping this Hybrid power grants a passive boost to Regeneration at all times.

https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=incarnate.hybrid.melee_genome_9

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I still want an Orbital Laser TAOE type Judgement

Luminescence 

-40 res 

 

Also i don't wanna be that guy, but i don't think a judgement called viral should be Psionic damage, maybe toxic instead or a different name?

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Bolding & increasing -res
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Posted
11 hours ago, Chance Jackson said:

I still want an Orbital Laser TAOE type Judgement

Yes. Absolutely. I have never really thought in depth about what new incarnate powers could be since I have just accepted them as unchanging. This would be a perfect addition. Most powersets have at least a somewhat fitting judgement (I would also love to see a plant judgement) but all of the arsenal/guns/traps ones don't really. I also think that it would be really fun (but maybe not so balanced) to have a single target judgement that just demolishes something. While maybe the laser might not be single target I think the list of judgements should be expanded with things like this (referencing both original post and orbital laser to be clear). My only problem is how would it look inside buildings, although ion is literally lightning inside so this probably won't be a problem.
 

On 6/10/2025 at 8:57 AM, LightMaster said:

Bleeding (Extreme Lethal Damage)

Targeted Self Teleport, then PBAoE; Core have up to 20% chance of a Mag 5 Fear on foes; Radial will additionally inflict up to -30% Res(All) in the foes.

I think it should be above average damage but make it DoT to make it feel seperate from something like vorpal rather than just a different shape.

 

On 6/10/2025 at 8:57 AM, LightMaster said:

Refulgent (Extreme Psionic/Energy Damage over Time)

Cone (akin to Vorpal); Core have up to 20% chance to inflict an additional damage up to 1.5 Energy damage, applying up to LT (Lieutenant) at middle tier to all ranks at top tier; Radial will additionally inflict inflict -Regen in affected foes.

Love it. I would love to see some cone of pure light that just wipes out enemies. I assume the "up to 1.5 energy damage" is up to 1.5x the normal amount (1.5 damage would be a bit underpowered). I could definitely see this being one of the "good picks" for giant monster hunting if you go radial. I don't think this is a balance issue but rather a quirk of it.

 

 

A new idea (not plant): 
Psyche
Psionic damage (extreme because it's a judgement). Core gets a chance for disorient and a chance for (deep) sleep. Radial gets large -recharge.

The reason for this judgement specifically is I'm imagining Viral becoming toxic damage rather than psionic (I see the vision but I think a seperate psionic one would work better). I also think it should have a low amount of targets but do the contagious thing that one confuse enhancement does (I've forgotten the name).

I imagine plant could be something like "Blossoming" and deal toxic and lethal with thorns and carnivorous plants as a persistent DoT field (like carrion creepers or really powerful caltrops).


TL;DR: Yes (but with some additions and fixes first).

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Posted (edited)
15 hours ago, Chance Jackson said:

I still want an Orbital Laser TAOE type Judgement

Luminescence 

-25 res 

 

Also i don't wanna be that guy, but i don't think a judgement called viral should be Psionic damage, maybe toxic instead or a different name?

 

3 hours ago, RiktiHater said:

Yes. Absolutely. I have never really thought in depth about what new incarnate powers could be since I have just accepted them as unchanging. This would be a perfect addition. Most powersets have at least a somewhat fitting judgement (I would also love to see a plant judgement) but all of the arsenal/guns/traps ones don't really. I also think that it would be really fun (but maybe not so balanced) to have a single target judgement that just demolishes something. While maybe the laser might not be single target I think the list of judgements should be expanded with things like this (referencing both original post and orbital laser to be clear). My only problem is how would it look inside buildings, although ion is literally lightning inside so this probably won't be a problem.
 

I think it should be above average damage but make it DoT to make it feel seperate from something like vorpal rather than just a different shape.

 

Love it. I would love to see some cone of pure light that just wipes out enemies. I assume the "up to 1.5 energy damage" is up to 1.5x the normal amount (1.5 damage would be a bit underpowered). I could definitely see this being one of the "good picks" for giant monster hunting if you go radial. I don't think this is a balance issue but rather a quirk of it.

 

 

A new idea (not plant): 
Psyche
Psionic damage (extreme because it's a judgement). Core gets a chance for disorient and a chance for (deep) sleep. Radial gets large -recharge.

The reason for this judgement specifically is I'm imagining Viral becoming toxic damage rather than psionic (I see the vision but I think a seperate psionic one would work better). I also think it should have a low amount of targets but do the contagious thing that one confuse enhancement does (I've forgotten the name).

I imagine plant could be something like "Blossoming" and deal toxic and lethal with thorns and carnivorous plants as a persistent DoT field (like carrion creepers or really powerful caltrops).


TL;DR: Yes (but with some additions and fixes first).

Luminescence as the “orbital laser” and Location AoE sounds like a really clever idea that stands out from other Judgements, and can either go for for the weaponry-themed like RiktiHater said, or going with the name and interpret it as a smiting strike of light. There isn’t a true “Energy” Judgement with Ion being the closest by virtue of dealing Energy damage, so this or mine can fill this gap.

 

Of course Chance Jackson’s Luminescence and my Refulgent might overlap thematically, so I’ll gladly have Jackson’s idea taken over mine due to the LAoE making it more unique. With additional -Res chance on Core, and as a cue from my idea, have the Radial effect of -Regen to make it a solid pick for GM-hunting.

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I managed to figure a list of potential Lore pets, with one “standard”, one “support” and one “boss” each.

Example: Standard, Support, Boss; common damage type and effect

  • Nictus: Essence, Dark Nova, Dark Dwarf; Negative damage and Foe -ToHit
  • Awakened (PPD Awakened): Awakened, Unleashed, Quantum; Energy damage and Foe -Def
  • Paragon Police Drones: PPD Drone, PPD Guardian, PPD Enforcer; Energy damage and Foe Disorient
  • Legacy Chain: Radiant of Light, Inferno of Flame, Tellus of Earth; various damage and have their own summon that dies as fast as a Mastermind’s henchmen, but can put more DPS and even debuffs if maintained
  • Nemesis Army: Jaeger, Sergeant, Fake Nemesis/Warhulk, Various damage and Foe Knockdown; Sergeant have Vengeance that can work on downed players (other than the summoner for obvious reasons) or even other pets We already have that one, my bad
  • Devouring Earth: Razorvine, Deathcap, Devoured; Toxic damage and Foe Hold
  • And for two “out-there” types like Polar Lights, Phantoms and Drones;
    • Halloween: Werewolves, Vampires/Vampyres, Reaper; various damage and Foe -Recharge
    • Little Guys: Swarm, Clockwork Gear, Rikti Monkey; various damage with focus on Toxic, smaller HP vs other Lore pets but can provide leaguewide support and inflict longlasting Foe -Res(Debuffs)
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Originally Shivan Decimator among them but then there won’t incentive to get Bloody Bay
Posted
56 minutes ago, LightMaster said:

Nemesis Army: Jaeger, Sergeant, Fake Nemesis/Warhulk

There’s already a Nemesis lore pet

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What this team needs is more Defenders

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3 hours ago, LightMaster said:

Shivan Decimator

The concern I have with this is it will take away the reason to go into Bloody Bay.

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