DM/Regen Questions

[Bill Z Bubba]

Should I bother with Dark Consumption? Should I say yes to that question and use it as an AoE and slot it as an AoE and consider the extra end as a side effect and not the goal?

 

Obviously Soul Drain is a must, but should I ignore what it buffs and also just slot it as an AoE attack with max recharge enhancement?

 

Second Wind, should I bother? Will I hit max HP when slotting with that in mind + Dull Pain?

Obviously taking Tough, but should I slot Weave and use it, or stick a single LotG+Recharge in there as a mule? Seems chasing defense without DDR is a waste of slots.

 

Max slotted Soul Mastery - Gloom and Darkest Night are no brainers but what about Dark Obliteration? Worth taking and 6 slotting for more AoE?

 

 

[Bill Z Bubba]

Haven't even tested it, haven't even created it. Anything jumping out as just plain wrong here? @Spaghetti Betty calling on you for guidance. Edit: Ugh, it is 8 seconds shy of permahasten. Edit2: Yanked extra hold proc from MG and added to MoG.

 

 

 

Lady Dracula - Brute (Dark Melee - Regeneration).mbd

Edited December 14 by Bill Z Bubba

[Bill Z Bubba]

Hopped on test with this build, grabbed all accolades, no incarnate powers, hit Ephram up for a mission, set diff to +1/x8, and she's faceplanting often.

 

Nice damage output, at least....

[SomeGuy]

On my DM/BIO scrapper I have it and set it for damage to eek out more AOE on the AT.  The combo of Genetic Contamination, Soul Drain, Dark Consumption, and a procced out Touch of Fear = an AOE machine. 

[Bill Z Bubba]

I did forget about procing out ToF. Forgot it was an AoE now.

[Bill Z Bubba]

For next mission I went +4/x2. She tore that shit up.

[Bill Z Bubba]

5:38 pylon time which is farkin sad for a brute BUT all that layered -tohit is gonna make it a safe bet. That's AFTER gettin Musc core, degen core and hybrid core on the build. Dark Melee's ST damage output, and its AoE output, are crap. But the +survival it grants while being crap is pretty damn good.

[Bill Z Bubba]

Ok character but ST damage farkin sucks. 5:23 best time so far.

[SomeGuy]

21 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Ok character but ST damage farkin sucks. 5:23 best time so far.

 

 

Yeah, DM doesn't do good ST. That's a myth. Not sure how or why it got traction. I really enjoy the set though, I'd enjoy it a lot more if Soul Drain got the attention it needs. The set would get a super easy fix if that one power was tweaked.

[Bill Z Bubba]

It's still weak on mitigation. I assume it's still weak regardless of AT. Unless you go ATs with Shadow Meld or take Rune of Protection.

[Spaghetti Betty]

4 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Haven't even tested it, haven't even created it. Anything jumping out as just plain wrong here? @Spaghetti Betty calling on you for guidance. Edit: Ugh, it is 8 seconds shy of permahasten. Edit2: Yanked extra hold proc from MG and added to MoG.

 

 

 

Lady Dracula - Brute (Dark Melee - Regeneration).mbd 41.44 kB · 3 downloads

I'm currently on break from pulling a double shift at work, but I'll try to answer some questions! If you'd like to post a screenie, I can try to analyze it from that, or do an in depth analysis after I perish later tonight!

 

5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Should I bother with Dark Consumption? Should I say yes to that question and use it as an AoE and slot it as an AoE and consider the extra end as a side effect and not the goal?

 

My answer to both of these questions is no! You shouldn't need the extra endurance, and it's not great as an AoEs option when there are so many better Epic AoEs to choose from!

 

2 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Ok character but ST damage farkin sucks.

 

The most optimal DM attack rotation includes both Gloom and Cross Punch! Personally, I think I'd take an epic hold over Gloom just for proc shenanigans, but I'd take a firm stance on including Cross Punch. It really is a miracle worker when it comes to low DPA sets!

 

2 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

It's still weak on mitigation. I assume it's still weak regardless of AT. Unless you go ATs with Shadow Meld or take Rune of Protection.

 

If you want the absolute best solo mitigation you can get, then work in Rune of Protection. You can juggle RoP/Melee Core/Barrier Core/MoG with a downtime of about 30 seconds and have nearly capped RES to most common sources of damage with only a little extra investment! This is huge when you factor in the tons of self healing you also have access to, though it will make your toon feel a bit clicky!

 

[Spaghetti Betty]

Apologies for the double post, but I realized I missed some questions and I'm tired!

 

5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Obviously Soul Drain is a must, but should I ignore what it buffs and also just slot it as an AoE attack with max recharge enhancement?

Slot it for as much recharge and accuracy as you can and save a slot for your Gaussian's proc! It'll go off 99% of the time, meaning even if you don't cap out it's targets, you still get a nice burst of damage!

 

5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Second Wind, should I bother? Will I hit max HP when slotting with that in mind + Dull Pain?

 

Absolutely! Second Wind is Dull Pain with a self rez baked in. Even if you could hit your HP cap with just Ailment Resistance (Brutes can but it's hard), don't ignore its utility as another big heal!

 

5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Obviously taking Tough, but should I slot Weave and use it, or stick a single LotG+Recharge in there as a mule? Seems chasing defense without DDR is a waste of slots.

You're correct that DEF is useless, but LotG is not! Personally, I would take Maneuvers since it provides a smidge of DEF for the team, and it opens up Tactics as well!

 

5 hours ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

Max slotted Soul Mastery - Gloom and Darkest Night are no brainers but what about Dark Obliteration? Worth taking and 6 slotting for more AoE?

 

This is the way! Though, I'd prioritize Dark Obliteration over Darkest Night. It slays when proc bombed, and dead things can't hit you!

Edited December 14 by Spaghetti Betty

[Bill Z Bubba]

39 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

The most optimal DM attack rotation includes both Gloom and Cross Punch!

 

39 minutes ago, Spaghetti Betty said:

If you want the absolute best solo mitigation you can get, then work in Rune of Protection.

 

After the testing I did, and these two statements, I find it hard to justify bothering with either powerset. I really thought the tohit debuffs from DM would benefit Regen greatly but given the number of faceplants I had even at +1/x8 while doing Dark Astoria repeatables, and given DM's atrocious ST damage, being told to lean on pool powers just to bring a combo up to par isn't something I wanted to hear.

 

But I do thank you for the time.

 

Don't get me wrong, here... go scrapper, cycle through Rune of Protection, Shadow Meld and MoG, you're probably unkillable in 99% of all events. I do take tough/weave on all my melee-ers. I get it.

 

Edited December 14 by Bill Z Bubba

[Spaghetti Betty]

21 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said:

I really thought the tohit debuffs from DM would benefit Regen

Trust me, I did too once upon a time! But ultimately, you want to seek ways to completely shut down a mob's ability to attack you rather than trying to inhibit it. That's why the stronger recommendations for a Regen pairing would be sets that offer knockdowns, like Stone, Axe, SS, or MA!

 

If you're a stickler for not wanting to fish outside of a set for performance, the Tanker version is much sturdier!

[Bill Z Bubba]

Full disclosure, once I got Barrier into the mix, it definitely became a different ride. She's handling PI and DA at +4/x8 without too much issue.