Savage VS Street Justice

[Tsuko]

Hi all,

 

I don't understand how Street Justice can be consider stronger than Savage Mélée.

 

Street justice best attack has a 25 seconds CD.

 

 

 

Hemorrhague hit harder than AS.

 

 

 

Source : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1av2vWL9UVgGw183BbjFNweJze7N5P3Tn8tYSppdFQgE/edit#gid=647164741

 

I see everywhere on the forum / reddit that Street Justice is "one of the premiere ST DPS sets on stalker) due to synergy with Assassin's Strike (with hide ATO) + Crushing Uppercut"

 

I dont get it.

 

Could someone with real numbers explain this to me please 🙂

 

Thank you :

 

 

PS : excuse my old and rusty english 🙂

Edited October 29, 2020 by Tsuko

[StrikerFox]

Street Justice finishers, Crushing Uppercut, Spinning Strike and Sweeping Cross build AF, and Assassin Strike builds 2 combo points in return. The problem I find with Savage Melee is Blood Frenzy going into cooldown. Especially if the attack chain is short, and 2 cycles of the chain builds little to no BF. 

 

It's disappointing that SM's highest dps attack chain ignores the BF mechanic. AS-SS-MS-SS-repeat. 

Edited August 15, 2019 by StrikerFox

[Haijinx]

Seems almost like the secondary bonus of end cost reduction and recharge bonus actually discourage you hitting the finisher also

 

Especially since according to the numbers hemorrhage isnt really better dpa  

 

[Tsuko]

5 hours ago, StrikerFox said:

Street Justice finishers, Crushing Uppercut, Spinning Strike and Sweeping Cross build AF, and Assassin Strike builds 2 combo points in return. The problem I find with Savage Melee is Blood Frenzy going into cooldown. Especially if the attack chain is short, and 2 cycles of the chain builds little to no BF. 

 

It's disappointing that SM's highest dps attack chain ignores the BF mechanic. AS-SS-MS-SS-repeat. 

So STJ become good cause you dump the finishers asap to have AS, for AS to give back 2 combo ?

 

What is this STJ best rotation pls ? 🙂

 

Thank you !

[StrikerFox]

1 hour ago, Tsuko said:

So STJ become good cause you dump the finishers asap to have AS, for AS to give back 2 combo ?

 

What is this STJ best rotation pls ? 🙂

 

Thank you !

[BU]-AS-CU-SB-[BU]-AS-SC-SB-repeat. SB builds 1 combo, AS builds 2 combos, so CU and SC have the max, 3 combo points. AS usually has 2 AF.

 

But I use [BU]-AS-CU-SB-[BU]-AS-SC-SB-IS-repeat. It requires less recharge and has a chance to build an extra AF point for a portion of the chain. Some people have recommended swapping IS for HB but haven't gone through a respec to do it yet.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-pSnnFemg

[Tsuko]

1 hour ago, StrikerFox said:

[BU]-AS-CU-SB-[BU]-AS-SC-SB-repeat. SB builds 1 combo, AS builds 2 combos, so CU and SC have the max, 3 combo points. AS usually has 2 AF.

 

But I use [BU]-AS-CU-SB-[BU]-AS-SC-SB-IS-repeat. It requires less recharge and has a chance to build an extra AF point for a portion of the chain. Some people have recommended swapping IS for HB but haven't gone through a respec to do it yet.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-pSnnFemg

i saw that you have tons of proc on your attacks, so im wondering :

 

- where do you slot the ATO procs ? chance to hide, the chance to build up (seems to be on SB)

 

- how much recharge do you have ? You dont seem to use chance of + recharge.

 

Very good time, the build is solid 🙂

 

Could you share it pls ?

 

I ll not copy it 100%, i plan on doing a Stj / Bio : i have tons of io left from my old attuned build from my main.

 

Thank you by advance !

[StrikerFox]

ATO1 is in Assassin Strike; ATO2 is in Spinning Strike. I think I have about 180% recharge or just enough to make Hasten perma. I dont have my build in front of me.

 

Sorry, I don't share my builds anymore. I doubt the StJ portion would work with Bio unless a lot of defense is given up.

 

[Xingularity]

I've got a StJ/Bio build, linked in another post. It works quite well, but I'd love to have someone go over it and figure out some tweaks. 🙂