WitchofDread

DDR?

What pairs well with this set?

Is it a good set? How does thr dmg compare to others? What Armor set does it pair well with? Which AT does it perform best on?

I'd say elec/dark would fit her well. Maybe elec, force or soul epic! Alternatively I think she would be better as a corr rather than blaster at which you could do elec blast/dark misasma/dark

Pros and cons of both? Which does better dps over all? Anyone have comparison examples?

Thanks! Definitely give this a go.

@Parabola thanks! That looks like a great build with lots of proc dmg. Definitely give it ago. Any advise or tips with this combo?

Well you have definitely convinced to try shield/DM tank! Do you have a build for it?

In terms of dmg which AT offers more, scrapper, brute or tank? And then the same for survivability. DM/Shield, DM/BIO, and DM/INVUL All interest me.

Isn't bio being nerfed? From what I have seen bio seems complex.

Ok i have put this together for DM/Shield, not sure how good it is though....

So i really want a dark meele character but no idea what to pair it with or what AT to use. I dont know a great deal about the melee AT so not sure which is best. thanks!

Ok i have reworked the water/dark/dark build. There isnt a great deal of change in all honesty but i think this might be better: - Only 38.43% R def but my hope is the - to hit will make up for it. - Capped S/L res - Hasten isnt perma, but i have slotted 2 Force feedback + rech, one in Hydro Blast and the other in Water Burst. Both powers will be used enough to hopefully make up for hasten - For Destiny i'm thinking either Ageless or Clarion, depends on my end usage.

put together the following build for a friend but not so sure if it is any good! This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Stone Armor Secondary Power Set: Radiation Melee Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Teleportation Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Rock Armor (A) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (3) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (3) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Contaminated Strike (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 2: Radioactive Smash (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (11) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage (13) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance (13) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (15) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (15) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 4: Stone Skin (A) Reactive Defenses - Defense (17) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (19) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance (19) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge (21) Reactive Armor - Resistance Level 6: Earth's Embrace (A) Preventive Medicine - Heal (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance (23) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance (25) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb Level 8: Mud Pots (A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage (27) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Recharge (27) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (29) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (31) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All) Level 10: Rooted (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (31) Panacea - Heal (31) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (33) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge (33) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge Level 12: Crystal Armor (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End (33) Performance Shifter - EndMod (34) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (34) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge (34) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (36) Shield Wall - Defense Level 14: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (36) Recharge Reduction IO Level 16: Super Speed (A) Celerity - +Stealth Level 18: Minerals (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 20: Radiation Siphon (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (36) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (39) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy Level 22: Fusion (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 24: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - 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Yeah I thought that might have been the case!

That's whirlwind. I'm talking about whirlpool from water Blast.

oh? Why is that?

so its worth while loading it up with 6 procs then?

Do procs actually work in Whirlpool?

Put together this mind/dark/psi build, capped Ranged Def, S/L capped res. End is a bit of an issue, having to cycle between Ageless and domination and then u have to time it perfectly. probably need to test it more but the damage just sucked hard! I mean like 5 mins into a pylon and i gave up,

Eh. I need to rework the build. It's a bit annoying. I'm not the biggest water fan. Trying to play tar patch then whirlpool before things are dead is taxing. Hence why I'm looking for changes.

My current character is water/dark. It's a busy character.

Fire, ice, rad, water work really well in my experience. Tried sonic a few times but never gelled with the set. Dark/dark/dark is obviously a classic.

Been trying to make fire/poison work for some time now and i think i MIGHT have sorted it now or at least be close. My thinking is that due to hot feet and venomous gas you will be in melee range all the time so that requires high melee def? managed to achieve 54.14% S/L def, 43.28% M, 22.66% R Ageless counters the end issues hopefully force feedback + rech procs in both bonfire and fissure. absorb proc from superior entomb in char, and earth's embrace will hopefully be enough for heals. I THINK this will work. **Ok after some tests the end from Ageless is NO where near enough...** This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Fire Control Secondary Power Set: Poison Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Char (A) Superior Entomb - Recharge/Chance for +Absorb (3) Superior Entomb - Accuracy/Hold/Endurance (3) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (5) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage (5) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 1: Alkaloid (A) Empty Level 2: Fire Cages (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge (7) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize (7) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance (9) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range (9) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (11) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize Level 4: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (11) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 6: Envenom (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (13) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (13) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage (15) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge Level 8: Hot Feet (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (15) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (17) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (17) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (19) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage Level 10: Weaken (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (21) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (21) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (23) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 12: Flashfire (A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (23) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage (25) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage (27) Javelin Volley - 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Defense (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 26: Bonfire (A) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown (37) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (37) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff (37) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) Level 28: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 30: Super Jump (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance (39) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 32: Fire Imps (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (40) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up Level 35: Poison Trap (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge (40) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge (42) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (42) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Obliteration - Damage Level 38: Venomous Gas Hamidon Origin:Enzyme Exposure Level 41: Fissure (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (45) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (45) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (46) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 44: Seismic Smash (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (46) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (46) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (48) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (48) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 47: Earth's Embrace (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (48) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (50) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (50) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime Level 49: Rock Armor (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Containment Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 1: Swift (A) Empty Level 1: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - 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@Voltak based on the elec/dark build I posted do you have any advise?