thunderforce

I propose to do a bit of scripting (not really necessary for Reunion's half-dozen bases) to compare it with the wiki list and see which bases are missing, then (if any) to check if they are defunct. If there are any non-defunct bases not in the spreadsheet (and I propose to create one for that test case) I think they might, if the spreadsheet upload process otherwise works, be at the bottom of the table on the wiki so they don't constantly get stomped by spreadsheet uploads.

Thank you, and I'm sorry that I'm so consistently abrasive. Let's not speak of it again. I appreciate you only want to improve things (and I see Dacy is already cleaning out old info about base editing, which is excellent). I think Above The Chemist is suggesting a reasonable way to upload your information (but I think we have to be a bit careful that this doesn't remove functioning bases that happen not to be in your spreadsheet). I can see there's something faintly absurd about you maintaining a list of 600-odd bases while the Wiki jealously guards its list of a few dozen.

You cannot, no, control access to a page. Any editor can edit any page; other editors can watch that page; some editors (like me) try to review recent changes and I like to think that by and large a decent job is done to correct the very occasional cases of vandalism or spam, and to copy edit additions. In view of EB's cracks about me ("Congrats! A valiant armchair victory. You have bravely corrected us. We tremble at your feet.") I don't really want to engage further today,

This club which you have joined is one place to seek agreement. Wiki talk pages are another. The "editors" are anyone who can edit the wiki, and you are welcome to be one; you can just sign up. I don't speak for everyone, but I am reasonably sure it would be fine to edit the list of bases on the wiki to make it more accurate. I am less sure it would be fine to delete it, and I personally would oppose such an idea.

I don't speak for everyone, but I think it would be more useful if you didn't employ this sort of rhetorical nonsense.

There is no "committee"; the wiki is run by consensus of its editors. Er, no - Easter Bunny removed all base information from the wiki (ie, getting rid of it). I reverted it and said that should only be done if the wiki editors agreed. I'm afraid that is not true. They removed all base information from the wiki. They did not create a new page. Anyone can see https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Special:RecentChanges and https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Easter_Bunny and see that, other than https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/User:The_Easter_Bunny they have not "put up a page".

I'm not sure it's that old - it is the newest wiki for Homecoming - but if it's not that important to you I suggest you might usefully delete your contributions to this thread (in the club for discussing improvements to the wiki) and leave the club which you seem to have joined for the specific purpose of commenting on this subject.

That's unfortunate, but I don't see any reason to suppose the Wiki "was/is fed from a separate Google Doc that has become pretty severely corrupted and compromised by player misuse", although it is helpful that you have identified the supposed document. Well, I certainly haven't, and more generally we are standing on the shoulders of the Paragon Wiki from live. I encourage you to register an account and fix these errors.

I don't see why. It seems more likely that individual wiki editors have added entries for bases they happened to find useful. In particular, as already mentioned, there is nothing in the edit history on the wiki to suggest a bulk upload. I can find edits that add two or three bases at most. Then feel free to persuade the wiki editors that all base information should be kept off the wiki.

I wonder also if you could elaborate on how "the information listed on the HC Wiki" (by which I think you mean the _unofficial_ HC wiki) "was/is fed from a separate Google Doc that has become pretty severely corrupted and compromised by player misuse"? I try to stay reasonably aware of recent edits and as far as I remember people mostly just add bases, not "corrupt and compromise" listings. Having reviewed the edit history on https://homecoming.wiki/w/index.php?title=Excelsior_Base_List&action=history I can see little reason to believe there's been a bulk upload of any kind, although I could be wrong.

I'm not sure what you mean by a "scare". Any page on the wiki is maintained by the contributors to the wiki. You are at liberty to correct the information on the wiki and I encourage you to do it. Personally I would suggest not allowing Google to snoop on information about bases (or anything), but you do you; if you want to add a link to the Google document and other wiki contributors don't object, be my guest. I would prefer that information on the wiki is maintained by contributors to the wiki by mutual consensus.

https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Special:Contributions/The_Easter_Bunny removed every base list to redirect stuff to a Google spreadsheet. I think this is obviously bad (and reverted it immediately) but (especially since they are a CR) I fear there may be some pushback.

{{now free}} versus newly added {{historical|reason=nopaid}} The Paragon Wiki import has a lot of "historical" for the booster packs that got folded into the Paragon Market, so that's why I started by editing that template. I like "now free" because it's concise and emphasises the fundamental point about Homecoming; but I like "nopaid" because it emphasises that the particular thing this page is about is still available. I think I'm overanalysing this and will just leave it be, modulo slapping one of them on any other pages that come to mind.

Of course after doing a few of these I found one that had the "now free" template, not "historical", and I'm analysis paralysing over which is more appropriate. So, er, that's out there too. I wonder who added that template oh wait it was me.

I did the merge. If people feel that's too drastic, yell at me or undo it.

Thank you. That was interesting to read, and I'm glad I didn't do the merge back in the day - another victory for Captain Procrastination. ETA: Hm, I can't decide now if I still want to merge them or not.

I've added a "nopaid" reason to the "historical" template and made an example edit to https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Animal_Pack to reflect how I think it should be used. I've done this because the old page did not clearly describe _what_ was obsolete about the information, and a new user without a knowledge of how Homecoming works might think the costume parts (etc) were no longer available. I've removed the sentence about the Paragon Market in Overview because I think documenting exactly how you could buy this stuff on Live is a job for the Paragon Wiki; it's more important to us to make it clear that anyone can have these parts. (It is still mentioned in History at the bottom). Before I go and make similar changes elsewhere I thought I'd check if anyone thinks this was a terrible idea.

I was proceeding on the assumption that you thought it was a typo, since you reported it in the "Report Typos here" thread; scrolling back I see that's not the case. If you don't think it's a typo, fine - but why then mention it? If it could be "dialect or a typo", and the dialect seems sensible for the speaker, it's not a typo. Prescriptivist arguments over what's "right" are pointless.

Dialogue is not a typo if it is a thing that people say, even if it is not "correct" from a prescriptivist point of view. We had this already with "could care less". There's no reason to think that Metal Swiper routinely consults usage guides.

I would be, yes, given the price per item means even if I had the hundreds of thousands of white salvage I'd need to make a respectable amount of money selling it, my arm would probably drop off before I'd got it all into the AH.

Common salvage could just be eliminated. It's cheap as dirt, there's always enough to go around, no-one's getting rich off selling it... (... and this is part of why OP is right that the system is overly complex; getting the right common salvage is just a speedbump of irritation, it serves no real purpose.)

https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Veteran_Levels#Costume_Change_Tokens_&_Respecs asserts that vet levels grant respecs not every 10 levels but on the schedule from the old Veteran Rewards program on live. I don't know this isn't true - I don't count my respecs and it seems like the kind of silly bug that might sneak in - but can anyone confirm that it's so? (And also, if it's instead of, not in addition to, one respec every ten levels).

I only don't wish it were an option because I cannot imagine who would choose not to throw presents.

During the previous winter events, Gravity/Propel has thrown presents. Now it doesn't, just the usual miscellaneous objects. This does not spark joy.

More usefully (albeit more useful than that reply is a low bar), Faultline writes on Discord: I think this thread can be closed since the suggestion is not practical to implement.