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I went through the numbers for Kin, and the first three attacks are more than fine. It's everything else which is so bad it should have never hit the test server. CS not being able to Crit and merely recharging PS isn't the intended win since PS is so underwhelming anyway. Claws can stack the far superior FU with no other attack in play.

As Sr. Software Engineer I think you're highly ignorant of what AI can actually do. Also, if an average gamer while in their basement can crank out CoH2, then how are they going to get a 'massive' number of people to buy into playing their version of it when it is so easy to replicate?

I haven't officially looked at Bill's build, but he's offered feedback on one of mine, and I saw enough posts by him to where I figure we are down to personal flavorings. I was still tweaking before my current break and settling on things. My point is, he put so many hours into his build and he had money to burn, so he's a s good as anybody to borrow and steal from in terms of a build. I don't think anyone in CoH player history is more associated with that combo than him.

It has the best DDR numbers, so yeah. The only real bane for a SR build is +ToHit.

Interesting to see all of the talk away from what the OP was asking. I would likely do something like Claws/rad as it will do the intended job, level up nicely after that, and still be good at 50. BA is going to be fine in the end, but it is slow to start. I'm not a fan of FA, but if you are just focusing on lower level content, then whatever.

Yeah, and you were done posting on the forum. 😆

Savage is Brute friendly. so I would do it with SR(because I did) or Shield(two TPs). The downside is those TPs, IIRC, are pets which don't benefit from Fury, but Savage is still great anyway.

I don't use Shadow Maul due to the animation. You need to play around with ToF with procs, and I'm not sure I'm still happy with it in my current slotting. Dark/sr Scrapper needs a little extra juice. Maybe one extra proc. My Dark/shield Scrapper feels fine, but that's a Scrapper and Shield helps nicely. Tankers don't due high DPS, they do larger AoEs. I don't think I could talk myself into a Shield/dark Tanker. It's simply too low of base damage even if said damage is consistent. Eviscerate is a waste on a Claws build unless you somehow found yourself with underwhelming recharge. Spin + Shockwave are all you really need.

I believe I used DocMidknight's build seen here. It's near T4, and I've been too lazy to fix anything on it as if there is anything genuinely wrong with it. It practically solos as well as anything I have even if it is slower than some builds.

This still the non-purple build I use. There's maybe a couple 5-slot purples I could swap in, but we are nitpicking at point. Discussion for the build is also below. I really should update that aspect at some point though. Note, if all you are looking for is general team play then it works more than fine. My current diff setting for solo play is +3x8, and only gets changed based on the mission. |MBD;24013;1449;1932;BASE64;| |G8xdICwKbBuZfSeOBuYtPTK/LkW69szmcNqd3dph+Xw+gBXLETibRaerr06n8tXLQmk| |HoPSVvD/Vz2mtrD3bUu2Is99daDBYgNO//99+qRJRJjIWZ1RiLArz6U1SQPrrSviW3f| |4qVI3bU4WW2Do6vlL2jZr71IKqrVCkWiFcq3oKIfvpXwft/tIdQHeIvLFuekWJTtHbW| |z+s1UKXkW8TXtzRQOJBLXxu39oJ0ELa2oJHsiDgtVhriSXOc323iYMOUuxK3wUM2utb| |hc+l7MFrIRqYUkpkWbfLMtw6UD/bO2HV12MQ3mDc2xj0s/KO6N9d3uCz0W3HieHkond| |Utj59OYs6FDgYE5c1dShrkZlppeMJO7jp0LGuxw1eHs2qpBpZ7uZ0styTqWOd1UBL+q| |F/tZzMLuXfbaDilRqx25EoKpkOi5/Lr0aerCr6JUdWyIUWrCfyyOIyYbWuZULv4AjvV| |Slzbk6pLbXP9/biaHYiYPWuXqlOlj5vlPsh2dagKS4qF2Bjyy7N94xsfWUxkv+2jBg/| |OfhZGKTnt62BEl7sLnzc0KB5hw96D0U9qnoRdMMaaMpR797xH0JlLYzeJpOzxf+7IK0| |9zv9GHz8xlHTKU6AjiMkP3256WZUQzqtIa1FKCpTA4lPSQPVpQvk09iblPK+4ieFM9Z| |aTJctUCbj2qUBIotgWWE8DxbG7egqUoPVckvl4T1FFUgWUeELjAk3abOUPrlHS9EjS9| |UhqKaEfoNw1S+yEWxgql7jtUkLVNgyq5jy6PmkVU9AIF97zhfIGDAmvUd6BEeEtGsS0| |M7NQfg3tNQG1MtZpfVzaTroC5Sm49YWcU+clT8oTGCc8obzQJDZXz0VW4esbOFyLw+W| |ysaOJlZTU3yfB/b6c54KJvSgccGI4/3iK8hAujyTE9NiY3ep0D7bNhbhlT5HRRb6k2K| |576VyDDQzCuOiWWVUBY1heaZsxyndlH3Xcbi8yWcKnZsNNfZHyNmvyhD/mFlTKdGH4F| |7gwXHkWeKjGcD/VPsIBJMLmGc1f9b227xwigAfDU3J0mYo5cvYqXj1RWiUNJQmMY0+a| |Cb5Ufv8vvqFid1DN2dqpzpdqBHC4FodL7Nolp+jxQECF50OxEiR9EFk/odHpIgcohbZ| |uRFvoTX95zretnAUbdoETw7l+Qj/Za5FPkvpkyZwZc+TDAbAxbDowbzJyOauSglQ8Pw| |exYYwACm0JjBNAo6vwxN7VPE/vV+oWPqEDLgzX0ebzwTHqC5rAFdjiwhgWV0tHS4EST| |LLjTrnHgJG9a7/s3aTSRR4si+3Ag7KzvnnlHXO4Acy15F+0Y8rP1ikfi44Y657uV7We| |2NlnrosVe1omoiCPNcnL7cv363SC17ZNa922tLmJNN8dKptjLIgUb6F1NXQlMI51qSq| |ET8HbX/ANh/suPVaPHqlK99MjLXqkHz3VjyrWG7J9+NyAAZ8wAA+G58WFd6awJeW35e| |Dygh8MCgmYO+llFMNIjvGxszjL5gyp2wmR2n4pK+A5QrqjXN2SBuKpbtW9JpNscqNIy| |+hIZjSnFqsqeBR9PrjuSRUewsBGWS8IGXZ1sWFAAIO2QllDrGYxWb2i39Ann1oAN+o1| |9YcuZXBsKPCi8Kb2cUKvOorn03t9yVXK8Fe9Ardb8KdKKnibcrG81uvrZWn/0Nc22X5| |BhCKkvu1xFRWywnPcvHYiIx44B/ZQE/pXev4q5qc8b83380+numMo3BSAtU75k7Pfs8| |HGHUxx/af97CnGSXS7WZGwDrnrH8/XFgvnha+EzRWSh4jqYsNjPpdl4dADKTKrSfy0z| |mFcOByZL9hPhxcUmTR5CCtpyTrZvpv4kb/sPJ/JgGVU47l5oHdXHsgjw44/nHR5vyB7| |aXFedPj/VZTrAn964T/ME4RSTuoYrCpuVzpcw4U0Tla2L8popXBfrN0B|

I've only gotten a couple Scrappers to 50 using DM. I would still rather do more play testing on Dark, and this is me essentially logging into the forum for the first time in months, so no clue when I would be back in the game. I'm still trying to get Dark to be at a more happy place in terms of damage in part because it's raw DPS is on the low side. I would say I'm more happy with Claws, but it can get watching grass grow boring as where Dark is lesser, but it is just simply more consistent. As always, what you pair with things can alter performance, see Dark/Shield. I'm personally not a fan of Bio, but I have a Rad/bio Brute at 50. Damage isn't the issue.

I liked 300. I'm not sure what else of his I have seen, but I also really don't care to watch anything else at this point.

I haven't done the Scrapper version. I'm just saying going from Point A to Point B can be faster on that build than various Scrappers. Now add in a Tanker being far safer.

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I like Claws on a Scrapper due to Spin having a shorter recharge and the crits help out Claws being Lethal damage at times. There's not enough alcohol for using Claws on a Tanker against a +4 boss of certain mobs types.