Kumate Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I am a big fan of turn on and forget powers so Shield/Dark/WP are more my thing but I want to be "full" tank this go around so going with SD. I know if IO'd its almost unkillable. What I can't figure out is which is more useful/dps with the changes between Fire and ice melee. Staff is my favorite but not an option..but informing since you can see the playstyle of quick aoe play with some nice single target. Because of that I am leaning torward Ice melee because Frost breath is going to be really nice with the target cap and range increase. A good single target line and a PBAOE in frozen aura. Fiery melee on tank I love because of combustion (just nice aggro grabber) but not sure how much more damage the set does compared to Ice with the new changes. I am also open to rad melee but the feel of it is really throwing me off. I can never get the heal to land and can never tell whos infected lol. But I like the idea of the set but in practice doesnt feel "right" to me. Would love a couple of builds maxxed for def/resist and any thoughts on the subject. As a side note I partner with a pain sup corrupter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraclea Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 This is saved from what I am running right now for my shield/fire bui;d. I don't think I ever sat down and made a plan there; if I did I wouldn't follow it anyway in the actual game so it makes little diff. Softcapped against melee with some to spare, softcapped against AoE, slightly shy of the mark on ranged. Vanth Rasnal: Level 50 Magic Class_Tanker Character Profile: ------------------ Level 1: Inherent Inherent Brawl EMPTY Level 1: Inherent Inherent prestige_DVD_Glidep Crafted_Run (50) Level 1: Inherent Inherent Sprint Crafted_Jump (35) Level 2: Inherent Inherent Rest Natural_Magic_Recharge (22) Level 2: Inherent Fitness Swift Crafted_Fly (50) Level 2: Inherent Fitness Hurdle Crafted_Jump (40) Level 2: Inherent Fitness Health Attuned_Numinas_Convalesence_F (1) Crafted_Miracle_F (20) Attuned_Panacea_F (1) Level 2: Inherent Fitness Stamina Attuned_Performance_Shifter_F (1) Crafted_Recovery (50) Crafted_Recovery (45) Crafted_Recovery (30) Level 1: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense Active_Defense Crafted_Titanium_Coating_F (50) Crafted_Titanium_Coating_E (50) Crafted_Shield_Wall_F (50) Attuned_Steadfast_Protection_B (1) Crafted_Defense_Buff (50) Crafted_Defense_Buff (50) Level 6: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense Battle_Agility Crafted_Recharge (50) Crafted_Recharge (50) Crafted_Recharge (50) Level 8: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense Against_all_Odds Crafted_Endurance_Discount (50) Crafted_Taunt (50) Level 10: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense True_Grit Crafted_Heal (50) Crafted_Preventive_Medicine_F (50) Crafted_Miracle_E (37) Crafted_Aegis_E (50) Crafted_Aegis_D (50) Crafted_Unbreakable_Guard_F (50) Level 18: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense Deflection Crafted_Red_Fortune_C (50) Crafted_Red_Fortune_B (50) Crafted_Red_Fortune_E (50) Crafted_Red_Fortune_A (50) Level 26: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense Shield_Charge Crafted_Accuracy (50) Crafted_Recharge (50) Crafted_Cleaving_Blow_B (47) Crafted_Accuracy (50) Hamidon_Damage_Range (50) Crafted_Cleaving_Blow_D (26) Level 32: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense Phalanx_Fighting Crafted_Reactive_Defenses_F (50) Level 41: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense Grant_Cover Crafted_Luck_of_the_Gambler_F (26) Level 49: Tanker_Defense Shield_Defense One_with_the_Shield Crafted_Gladiators_Armor_F (50) Level 1: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Scorch Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_A (35) Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_E (35) Crafted_Touch_of_Death_A (34) Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_D (35) Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_B (35) Level 2: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Fire_Sword Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_C (35) Crafted_Accuracy (50) Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_D (35) Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_A (35) Crafted_Kinetic_Combat_B (35) Level 12: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Taunt Crafted_Perfect_Zinger_C (50) Level 16: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Breath_of_Fire Crafted_Annihilation_A (50) Attuned_Annihilation_B (1) Crafted_Annihilation_D (47) Crafted_Annihilation_C (45) Crafted_Annihilation_F (45) Crafted_Annihilation_E (50) Level 28: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Fire_Sword_Circle Crafted_Multi_Strike_D (50) Crafted_Multi_Strike_F (50) Crafted_Multi_Strike_B (50) Crafted_Multi_Strike_C (50) Crafted_Multi_Strike_A (50) Crafted_Multi_Strike_E (50) Level 30: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Combustion Crafted_Cleaving_Blow_A (30) Crafted_Cleaving_Blow_B (44) Crafted_Cleaving_Blow_D (41) Crafted_Mocking_Beratement_F (50) Crafted_Mocking_Beratement_E (30) Level 35: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Incinerate Superior_Attuned_Superior_Gauntleted_Fist_E (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Gauntleted_Fist_F (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Gauntleted_Fist_D (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Gauntleted_Fist_B (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Gauntleted_Fist_A (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Gauntleted_Fist_C (1) Level 38: Tanker_Melee Fiery_Melee Greater_Fire_Sword Superior_Attuned_Superior_Might_of_the_Tanker_A (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Might_of_the_Tanker_C (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Might_of_the_Tanker_E (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Might_of_the_Tanker_B (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Might_of_the_Tanker_F (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Might_of_the_Tanker_D (1) Level 4: Pool Flight Fly Crafted_Fly (50) Level 24: Pool Flight Air_Superiority Crafted_Accuracy (50) Crafted_Accuracy (50) Crafted_Damage (50) Crafted_Crushing_Impact_C (45) Crafted_Crushing_Impact_B (50) Level 14: Pool Fighting Kick Generic_Might_of_the_Empire (1) Level 20: Pool Fighting Tough Crafted_Aegis_A (50) Crafted_Aegis_B (50) Level 22: Pool Fighting Weave Crafted_Reactive_Defenses_B (50) Crafted_Defense_Buff (50) Crafted_Reactive_Defenses_C (50) Crafted_Reactive_Defenses_D (50) Level 44: Epic Energy_Mastery Conserve_Power Crafted_Recharge (50) Crafted_Recharge (50) Level 47: Epic Energy_Mastery Physical_Perfection Crafted_Performance_Shifter_F (50) Level 50: Redirects Inherents Gauntlet_Proc ------------------ QVÆ TAM FERA IMMANISQVE NATVRA TB ~ Amazon Army: AMAZON-963 | TB ~ Crowned Heads: CH-10012 | EX ~ The Holy Office: HOLY-1610 | EV ~ Firemullet Groupies: FM-5401 | IN ~ Sparta: SPARTA-3759 | RE ~ S.P.Q.R. - SPQR-5010 Spread My Legions - #207 | Lawyers of Ghastly Horror - #581 | Jerk Hackers! 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Makobolite Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Positional Softcaps with capped S/L whenever you pop either Rune of Protection of OwtS. Basically have a short gap when you don't have it up, but I'd hope most fights don't last that long to where you can't cycle it. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Shield DefenseSecondary Power Set: Fiery MeleePower Pool: SorceryPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(11), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(17), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(17), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)Level 1: Scorch -- Mk'Bit-Dam%(A), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(33), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(43), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(43)Level 2: Battle Agility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(3), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(13), RedFrt-EndRdx(13), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42)Level 4: True Grit -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-ResDam(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)Level 6: Combustion -- SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(34), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(34), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)Level 8: Mystic Flight -- Flight-I(A)Level 10: Taunt -- MckBrt-Rchg(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(46), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(48), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(48), MckBrt-Taunt(48), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(50)Level 12: Active Defense -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 14: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 16: Breath of Fire -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(21), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(27), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(29), Ann-ResDeb%(31)Level 18: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31)Level 20: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), RechRdx-I(29)Level 22: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), ResDam-I(23), StdPrt-ResKB(50)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(25), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(25), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(33), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34)Level 26: Shield Charge -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 28: Spirit Ward -- Heal-I(A)Level 30: Rune of Protection -- RechRdx-I(A), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(45), Ags-ResDam(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 32: Combat Jumping -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(43), LucoftheG-Def(45)Level 35: Fire Sword Circle -- SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(36), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 38: Greater Fire Sword -- Mk'Bit-Dam%(A), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(39), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(40), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 41: One with the Shield -- Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(42), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(42)Level 44: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)Level 1: Brawl -- KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(A), KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(5), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(5), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment Level 50: Void Radial Final Judgement Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1506;673;1346;HEX;| |78DA6D944B6F125118866718B0964B69050AB4D0164AEF1419DBBD0B811A0B4915F| |70DA1A7302DD206BAD0A589D7A531B14BD76E5C798B3FC4EB0F70E565E1B51BFC98| |F79536C149E039E73DE7BBCDF9CE94AEE7BC4FD76E9ED774EF8546A5DDDEBC5A69E| |EAA96AB54A95955ADFB0CC82F0E7533A7B655B3AD32E5BAA51A5BFFA611AE965443| |A94CC152AD1B186BDE8DBDBD46A6BCD7AA8AE6B32705AB563FB09A352C1555655F2| |66EECDB576A2B90DFB7AA997C53B56AE2A5D23E10CB88A490915FCE277F7A37A98E| 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Sgt. Terminus Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 In case you want to give Ice Melee a try, here is a build I am working towards. Relatively new to Shield Defense but this will be my 5th ice melee to 50 so if you haven't tried ice yet it is very very good. It has better AOE then Fire IMHO because it has better DPA in Frost and Frozen Aura (should be renamed Ice Stomp) even better then the almighty FSC (it is slower). I believe it also has the single best ST melee attack of all sets in Freezing Touch especially with the proc's you can put in it, insta-hold bosses, two purple damage proc's, and what's that? a 1 second animation time? Yes please! The problem with Ice is that the ST's drop off really fast after that. Ice Sword is ok, but Frozen Fists and Greater Ice Sword are horrible. That is where Cross Punch and Gloom come in. The build below is well over the regular soft cap for all positions plus you always have Ice Patch as another layer of mitigation which I still find need for it on all my ice melee characters when things go sideways. Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Shield DefenseSecondary Power Set: Ice MeleePower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), Ags-Psi/Status(3), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(3), Ags-ResDam(5), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(43)Level 1: Frozen Fists -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(15), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mk'Bit-Dam%(23)Level 2: Battle Agility -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def(36), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(36), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), LucoftheG-Rchg+(48)Level 4: Frost -- PstBls-Dmg/Rng(A), Dtn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(7), Dtn-Dmg/Rng(7), Ann-ResDeb%(11), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), Ann-Acc/Dmg(13)Level 6: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 8: True Grit -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(9), Pnc-Heal/+End(9), Pnc-Heal(23), GldArm-ResDam(48), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(48)Level 10: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(40)Level 16: Cross Punch -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), FrcFdb-Rechg%(21)Level 18: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)Level 20: Ice Patch -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(43), LucoftheG-Def(43), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)Level 24: Build Up -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(25), GssSynFr--Build%(25), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(27), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(27), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(29)Level 26: Shield Charge -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(34)Level 28: Freezing Touch -- UnbCns-Dam%(A), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(29), Hct-Dam%(31), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33)Level 30: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)Level 32: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)Level 38: Frozen Aura -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(40), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40)Level 41: Gloom -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(46)Level 44: Phalanx Fighting -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)Level 47: One with the Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(50), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 49: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(46)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(46), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(50)Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany ------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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