Rad/Fire or SS/Fire

[Renmazuo]

Which would be better for farming/teaming? Also if anyone has example builds, that would be great!

 

Or on a side note, which would do good in TF's for group pulling and such.

 

If there are any other opinions on other builds please let me know. Thanks for the assistance!

[MrWallace]

Posted my Rad/Fire/Soul brute build last night in a thread below. In general, it seems to work well at farming and TFs at 50 but lving him up the end drain was a pain. I used to have a SS/Fire/Soul brute and I think they both kill at roughly the same rate but the SS might have the edge due to Rage. I will have to see once the build is finished and the Count is fully incarnated.

 

 

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Count De Noir: Level 50 Magic Brute

Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee

Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Fighting

Power Pool: Leaping

Power Pool: Leadership

Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

 

Villain Profile:

Level 1: Radioactive Smash

• (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
  
• (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
  
• (31) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 1: Fire Shield

• (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
  
• (9) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (13) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  
• (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (36) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  
• (39) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
  

Level 2: Blazing Aura

• (A) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End
  
• (3) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  
• (3) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (5) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
  
• (5) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  
• (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  

Level 4: Healing Flames

• (A) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP
  
• (7) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  
• (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
  
• (40) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  
• (40) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime
  

Level 6: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (7) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 8: Kick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 10: Temperature Protection

• (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  

Level 12: Super Speed

• (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
  
• (42) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 14: Tough

• (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  
• (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance
  

Level 16: Plasma Shield

• (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
  
• (37) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (48) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  
• (50) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 18: Irradiated Ground

• (A) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
  
• (19) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
  
• (19) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (25) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (25) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (48) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
  

Level 20: Consume

• (A) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (21) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (21) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  
• (36) Superior Brute's Fury - Damage/Recharge
  
• (37) Superior Brute's Fury - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 22: Weave

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  
• (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  
• (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  

Level 24: Combat Jumping

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  
• (39) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage
  
• (42) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  

Level 26: Devastating Blow

• (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
  
• (27) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  
• (27) Hecatomb - Damage
  
• (29) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (29) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 28: Burn

• (A) Eradication - Damage
  
• (31) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  
• (34) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  
• (34) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (34) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance
  
• (43) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge
  

Level 30: Maneuvers

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  

Level 32: Atom Smasher

• (A) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (33) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  
• (33) Armageddon - Damage
  
• (33) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  
• (37) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 35: Fiery Embrace

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  
• (50) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 38: Gloom

• (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
  
• (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  
• (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  
• (42) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  
• (43) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
  

Level 41: Dark Obliteration

• (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
  
• (43) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
  
• (46) Ragnarok - Damage
  
• (46) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
  
• (48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  

Level 44: Darkest Night

• (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff
  
• (45) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow
  
• (45) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance
  
• (50) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance
  

Level 47: Summon Widow

• (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
  

Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Fury

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Empty
  

Level 4: Ninja Run

Level 2: Swift

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Health

• (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  
• (45) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  

Level 2: Hurdle

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Stamina

• (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  
• (46) Endurance Modification IO
  

Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon

Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany

Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment

Level 0: High Pain Threshold

Level 0: Marshal

Level 0: Born In Battle

Level 0: Invader

Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface

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[Renmazuo]

Does this build work for the heroes side as well? Sorry for the dumb question, I left CoH back in the day before brutes were able to built as heroes.

[Erratic1]

I am running a Rad/Fire Brute hero side (level 31 currently). He works well, but let me second that endurance can be an issue if you do not slot for it appropriately, and doing so while levelling involves other tradeoffs.

 

People routinely forget their attacks are a primary source of endurance consumption. I have rounded the corner on endurance problems, but that was by slotting an Endurance Cost Reduction in each attack. Obviously this is a slot where a Damage enhancer could have been. Even so the damage is good. IOs should make things even better.

 

TLDR: It will reach it's full potential mid-to-late compared to other builds but is never actually bad.

[MrWallace]

Does this build work for the heroes side as well? Sorry for the dumb question, I left CoH back in the day before brutes were able to built as heroes.

 

Yep just have to pop over to the red side (via the going rouge system or Null the Gull) to unlock Soul Mastery from Ghost Widow.