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So I am starting out a new character and going to do this 100% on Redside, and more then likely solo as hardly anyone plays "Red".  I am going with a Demons/Poison build as I feel it is a good "evil" build that allows for survivability.


I am curious if anyone has done this before.  If I could get some insight.  I am trying to synergize the Demons -res with Poison's -def.  I do realize Poison does do more then that, but that was the main idea for this build.


He is a basic map of what I am going to take in leveling.  A final min/max build will be done up later if this works as intended.  But I think this is going to work in the beginning.


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Level 49 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Poison
Power Pool: Sorcery
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: zc_Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Alkaloid -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Corruption -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Envenom -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Enchant Demon -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Weaken -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Mystic Flight -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Summon Demons -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Crack Whip -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Hell on Earth -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Tactics -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Paralytic Poison -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Tough -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Poison Trap -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Noxious Gas -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Weave -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Dark Embrace -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Oppressive Gloom -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy 
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Cold Demonling 
Level 1: Fiery Demonling 
Level 1: Hellfire Demonling 
Level 12: Ember Demon 
Level 12: Hellfire Gargoyle 
Level 26: Demon Prince 

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Any insight would be helpful, thanks.

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I wish I could be of more help, but I can't load Mid's and I have never been able to really get into Poison.


Based on my experience, the demons are tough, but without any buffs, they will be subject to getting killed if there are any mobs around that /Poison hasn't debuffed. IMO, /Poison is a good  secondary for hunting GMs and AVs, and should shine there, but possibly less so in something like the ITF, where there are more mobs than you can debuff, and you'll need to rely on other support ATs to help keep the demons on their feet. It wouldn't be too bad if /Poison has a better heal. Anyway, I'm sure the build is viable, because Demons are top tier, possibly the best Primary from a numbers standpoint, and if you stick with low numbers of tough targets, you should do quite well. 



As for Redside, I have never failed to assemble a team, whether for missions, radios, strike forces, etc. It might be a little longer to get one together, or you may run a 6 person team rather than 8 on slower days, but Redside does have a following, and if you announce and form teams yourself, you'd be surprised how many folks will swap out from Blue side.


Heck, if you are on Everlasting, holler and if I'm able to I'll come join you. 

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I haven't had Demons/Poison directly, but I have had Demons/Sonic, and my first MM was Bots/Poison - back the in the dark days when equip and upgrade were single target on long cooldowns. Oh and of course your pets wouldn't zone into instances or different zones with you.


All this to say, I am not sure I would put my tier 9 poison debuff aura on the Cold Demon Prince. I would leant to putting it on the Hellfire Demon. He is more aggressive and moves from spawn to spawn quicker it seems to me. I got to where I put the demon pets in split stances with the boss demon and the 3rd tier on defensive follow and i would follow the 2nd tier demons on attack my target as they mowed down the foes. I am also aware the sonic debuff toggle works differently than the poison debuff aura but its something to consider.

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