Ringo Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 So I had an idea that I wanted to wormhole spawns into oil slick and set them on fire. But Wormhole has a 90 second recharge, and Oil Slick is even longer at 180. This would not do, but the idea persisted. So I built a build with all the recharge I could muster. All the recharge in the friggin' world! I call it "Hyper Velocity". It's probably gonna get the nickname of "Faceplant" or "Out of End" due to the nature of throwing out so much crowd control so quickly. But hey, what the hell. GOTTA GO FAST Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Hyper Velocity: Level 50 Science Controller Primary Power Set: Gravity Control Secondary Power Set: Trick Arrow Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Concealment Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Crush -- WiloftheC-Rchg/Dam%(A), WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(3), WiloftheC-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(3), WiloftheC-EndRdx/Rchg(5), WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(5) Level 1: Entangling Arrow -- GrvAnc-Hold%(A), GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(7), GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(7), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(9), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(9) Level 2: Gravity Distortion -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(11), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(11), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(13) Level 4: Arcane Bolt -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg(15), Dcm-Build%(15), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(17), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), FrcFdb-Rechg%(19) Level 6: Propel -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Apc-Acc/Rchg(21), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Apc-Dam%(23), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(23) Level 8: Crushing Field -- PstBls-Dam%(A), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(25), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(27), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(27) Level 10: Ice Arrow -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(29), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(29), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(31) Level 12: Mystic Flight -- Flight-I(A) Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 16: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 18: Gravity Distortion Field -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(31), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(33), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(33), RechRdx-I(37) Level 20: Acid Arrow -- Acc-I(A) Level 22: Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 24: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 26: Wormhole -- AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(A), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(36), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(36), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(37), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(37) Level 28: Disruption Arrow -- RechRdx-I(A) Level 30: Lift -- KntCrs-Acc/Dmg/KB(A), KntCrs-Dmg/EndRdx/KB(33), KntCrs-Dmg/KB(34), KntCrs-Acc/KB(34), KntCrs-Rchg/KB(34), KntCrs-Rechg/EndRdx(36) Level 32: Singularity -- ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39) Level 35: Oil Slick Arrow -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(40), PstBls-Dam%(40), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(40), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(42), RechRdx-I(42) Level 38: EMP Arrow -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(42), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(43), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(43), RechRdx-I(43) Level 41: Poisonous Ray -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg(45), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(45), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(46) Level 44: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 47: Disruptor Blast -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50) Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(31), Hct-Dmg(46), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Hct-Acc/Rchg(50) Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A) Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A) Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(13) ------------ As you can see, Hasten is perma even with only its default slot (had to unupgrade Will of the Controller to get the 8.75% bonus instead of the 10%). Wormhole has a 22 second recharge time, and Oil Slick is at 45 seconds. Even GDF is under a minute now. And that's before you cast an attack chain with Arcane Bolt, Propel, and Disruptor Blast that all have +recharge procs in them! But I slotted brawl (with Hecatomb!). I took all the procs out of Acid Arrow. I have no defense and no resistances. It's, frankly, a mess of a build and quite expensive. But hey, I don't think it's ever been done before! Let me know what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffnat Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 You are a man of taste! That sounds a lot like my Wormhole into TripMine plans I have for Grav/Traps. Why do you pick Lift so late? I would switch positions with Crush. But I guess that is just personal preference. back in the days: Zukunft (EU) ... nowadays: Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 Entangling Arrow has a root (-1000 mag KB) which interferes with Lift, so I took Crush to be able to use Entangling Arrow for containment. Lift only got back in the build because I needed somewhere to grab another 7.5% recharge. However - having run a couple DFBs now, once I got Arcane Bolt and Propel, I have a nice attack chain of Crush, Gravity Distortion, AB, and Propel, and completely stopped using Entangling Arrow. So my bias against Lift may have been unfounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffnat Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 But Lift deals additional dmg against targets affected by Gravity Distortion (just like Propel) and it's nothing to sneeze at. back in the days: Zukunft (EU) ... nowadays: Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketmandb Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Lift is a primary damage power for Grav. You've got Entangling Arrow for containment, so Lift >>>>>> Crush p.s. Have you played a /TA controller? I tried way back when, and the constant bow redraw was exceedingly annoying to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 So I got this character to 48 back in 2019 and retired him. Wormhole was usable but Oil Slick Arrow wasn't up fast enough to justify all of the crazy slotting choices I made to get recharge. I'd have to look, but I think my final build got OSA to somewhere below 50 seconds. And then yesterday I (re)learned that Blaster - Tactical Arrow has OSA on a 90 second recharge. And Fold Space exists now. So, problem solved, I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminara Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 9:45 PM, Ringo said: So I got this character to 48 back in 2019 and retired him. Wormhole was usable but Oil Slick Arrow wasn't up fast enough to justify all of the crazy slotting choices I made to get recharge. I'd have to look, but I think my final build got OSA to somewhere below 50 seconds. Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Na'Siehel: Level 50 Magic ControllerPrimary Power Set: Gravity ControlSecondary Power Set: Trick ArrowPower Pool: ConcealmentPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Lift -- Empty(A)Level 1: Entangling Arrow -- EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(A)Level 2: Gravity Distortion -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5)Level 4: Flash Arrow -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(13), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(13), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(15)Level 6: Propel -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Apc-Acc/Rchg(17), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Apc-Dam%(19), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(19)Level 8: Infiltration -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(21), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(21)Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), GifoftheA-Run+(23)Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 14: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(23)Level 16: Cross Punch -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Arm-Acc/Rchg(25), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Arm-Dam%(27), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(29)Level 18: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 20: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(29), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFrt-Def(31), RedFrt-EndRdx(33)Level 22: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Rct-Def/Rchg(50), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), Rct-ResDam%(50)Level 24: Ice Arrow -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(33), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(33), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34)Level 26: Wormhole -- AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(A), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(34), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(34), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(36), AbsAmz-Stun(36), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(36)Level 28: Disruption Arrow -- SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(A), SynSck-Dam/Acc/End(37)Level 30: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 32: Singularity -- WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), WiloftheC-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(37), WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(37), WiloftheC-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(39), WiloftheC-Rchg/Dam%(39), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(39)Level 35: Oil Slick Arrow -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(40), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(40), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(42)Level 38: Fissure -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(42), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(42), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), PstBls-Dam%(43), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(43)Level 41: Seismic Smash -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Hct-Acc/Rchg(45), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Hct-Dam%(46)Level 44: EMP Arrow -- BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(46), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(46), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(48)Level 47: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 49: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(5), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(7)Level 2: Stamina -- PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PwrTrns-Dam/Rech(7), 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Ringo Posted August 8, 2022 Author Share Posted August 8, 2022 Interesting! You've packed a lot of recharge and some survivability in there, nice work. Even without Incarnates you've got 1-slotted Hasten Perma and Oil Slick Arrow down under 43 seconds. My fastest (and not survivable at all) build is only slightly faster than that, ignoring the Force Feedback Procs: Spoiler | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1538;686;1372;HEX;| |78DA65945973124114857BC210CC420023668124044C4248205089FAAAC635122B4| |A8CCB83482643392515A8211BBEFBAA961A8DCBFFF10FB83DC5B5D452B394BE8B97| |B9A72B504C15F3D1A7EFE93E3D3D3DD36B275BB3D9D3C784E29ECC658AC5F4647E7| |1C9CCE772BAE9486986BEA8E982AEB6B3A5826E06E6F45C5E33964A0E92827B95D2| |143B636656A85BB67D55252796B3D9D8AC6968B7D3C74D33BF2A5A67F2E448E54D4| |D374B1EAB716E71C5281AF3468EC668E6EE82AE2FB8ACBF493DB3A09BC55B46C17F| |AA6068B1AAB1A7339A4EB7E2128DD449D106E9774FA9E4B66E65BBB8DB204442150| |D2FA939447CC1549F831BCCC6A74CB3E253D8AC8A5936375E66EEBB085E6236A798| |F715CC47269BF29EC41EEA7CCD6C7D03BE633E1C10C226E3D910AF0DB1DC88E146A| |CFDCF40C47D403E3BCCAA7D8CCD0712609C79300AC69845AA77C06473FCE0189DDF| |C1AFCCEE6FCC65AA6B926B69C25ABAB1163FD6E2976BA1E21614AB2DF3366BBAE80| |D66220DDE04334C27BD434E7E5C65E1F42A961824D12545D788B0C447247864160F| |B2F4224B2FB2F422CB2A15B76395A2BD9B4770D1B05E8C20BC98CB4362879CAB03E| |26342975C4AD7057E728129F03C9864F64F33D7C8E49326DFB6CA9D3FC15FCCD016| |F89BB942A61E69EAB9CE2385E69887AE8057C16BCC7532F5C164EFFBC2230D7E063| |7C10FCCA18FE0276689CC41F9CA051BECDCA93087FF71D1701914AC47B00977C837| |203761009B10C12644B009A36F99EBB45D61F968C378B44F481C91676AE4282F68F| |40838CE8C4E8087991B648AC969637F591CDB0177C13F383EB4A371B9CD714C4B71| |E4552EFBAB1A42E0ED48D688FD2CCEA87B8759283E16B79AE557A1228658DCAE11C| |32CEED488538A756C77AB44450970651BF82A52F9202067A42652992E11AF9712F5| |D278BD34512F35B9ABE6FA0FA0E0EB12| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| I'm gonna spend some time going over your build today, for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo Posted August 12, 2022 Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 I put this build together and took it for a test spin on Brainstorming. Spoiler | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1438;692;1384;HEX;| |78DA6593CB4F135114C6EFD029954779589142298F02963E2C145F5B15284525014| |1B74DAD539C583B645A1E75EF4A054409BED61AF50F5096C618E3DED7D6B070E523| |515157F5CC7CE7468893B4BFB9DFBDDFB9E7DE73667C71B8369B4D1C154AC3502E5| |D28A4868C7CD1347239CD744D65742D9FD1043D75C9D2AC66769ED57246462F965C| |2405FEAD94A6D8A8999EA76939F66D5B727C2E9B8D4D9B7AE662EA98691A0BA276C| |220C794616634B3548DC1ACA69D77DBAF097DE64251CFCF34DAA3B1FCBC5ED0CFE9| |390ADE3232AB6762C3C6253D9F2E1A666A7C2E359E2E14298897B2EAA2DF9262A56| |CFF959DE21E21A88A8A75E67D50BDC3BC0B56DE064D457A45598856425C15CB8AA5| |714465ACC216770D3347C0EA047314AC4D8205F2391498858323AED0D8C91155679| |C1D51B06E8019031BFAC1D55E215CD2E4BA61158126AF83BB9798CBE09E15708ED6| |57C9DCAB3E50243F4DBE01F7BE65BE07BD2F557BA7F80BF026ED5823F8366A7C0E5| |B0C50F9DD7C458A3B82037999F334512F4F5BFF5A41E284469943E3199CA6758239| |09B69D664E81EDD3E002F93CB2221EBE3F8572689262138B0E129B59AC681E44B6E| |D9642478B8614BBC0B7082D3297163FCED9DE06767A993EE626D87505B92C92CFC7| |A7537C5B3C7995263DAA58A3CBF2CBC8FE2370740D82DD0798079987C09EC3E01AF| |93AA4B9E30972EF79C07C08EE7BCC7CC4FC0896C81790E6C02788C14DE673A4177C| |8674434F991BE065F2F5CAAEEA7D87460871A384B941C2DC20616E9C6B14BB8FAFD| |AD9F7073BF5FF60FE646E81F15FCCDFA04A758A4873A4093D12FD8EC9E849707F82| |39C64C826E32C7644BC6D85C47E2806C870116ADDAF2532E5B05FEEFBB3EB56D057| |D25A8C4842A1792A8F8B0F273F5767B37C42F3BC43E885F778827D074DF6C91FB46| |AC63A3CA55F055D8FAAC39CF490F6972F0170A9FCAA5| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| It's not bad! I could handle +3x8 without too much difficulty - kill speed was slow, but I was also experimenting with all the tools I had. The Force Feedback proc in Wormhole is the true star of the show as it gets Oil Slick Arrow back in the rotation much sooner. Dimension shift was eh... not sure it's much more than a panic button. I wanted to be able to Wormhole>OSA>Dimension Shift a spawn but OSA doesn't seem to kill fast enough if I'm not applying Distortion Arrow and Acid Arrow and I can't do that while outside the Dimension Shift bubble, so the mobs take a bunch of damage but more than a few of them are still standing once the bubble goes down. Poison Gas Arrow was also pretty eh, but it does have that nice "chance for heal" proc one slot wonder in it and that was helpful to mitigate being hit. It was my first choice for shifting slots to from Dimension Shift, but I'd lose the proc in order to slot a full Fortunata's Hypnosis, so I dunno. Wormhole itself is underwhelming. The teleport often misses, so it's generally just better to Wormhole a group right to where it is, making it just an AoE stun. Fold Space is a better grouping tool by far, but I don't have room for three more power picks. I think I might need to go back and add Crushing Field back in. Wormhole>CF>OSA>Dimension Shift may actually be the better setup as CF will give Containment. Dimension Shift is by no means necessary, but I really enjoy the idea of a bubble of DOOM. I don't have the +pet Resist IO in Singularity in this build, and it does seem to make him more noticeably squishy. However he recharges fairly fast and resummoning him is actually preferable to trying to drag him through a group of mobs to get him to engage where I want him. So maybe not really a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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