LEUGIM6 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) Hello allI. So, I have an Energy/Inv Scrapper at lvl 50, that I am now starting to IO out. I have some questions and doubts about some IOs and ATOs. 1- I've used Superior Critical Strikes on Total Focus and Superior Scrapper's Strike on Energy Transfer. Is that the way to go? I confess I don't understand really well the way ATOs work. 2- My resists are a bit low for Energy/Neg, which I believe is an important part of the endgame. On the other hand, my Fire/Cold are very high but I can't seem to find a good, cost-effective way to raise the energy/neg resists. 3- My defense is S/L + Fire capped but, again, the Energy/Neg defense isn't particularly high. Should I try to increase it more? And how? 4- I didn't go Hasten / Perma-Dull Pain because it felt I had to use too many recharge and sacrifice the Res/Def. Am I approaching it correctly or am I missing something? 5- I kept Barrage and Power Crash due to being somewhat mules for some important IOs but also because Barrage can be useful sometimes, and Power Crash when solo is also situationally useful. But I can totally see myself dropping power crash. 6- Unstoppable is a mule for IOs Any ideas, suggestions? This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Mutation ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Energy MeleeSecondary Power Set: InvulnerabilityPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Soul Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Barrage (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (9) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage Level 1: Resist Physical Damage (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (3) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (17) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP (23) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime Level 2: Temp Invulnerability (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (9) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (19) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (21) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime Level 4: Bone Smasher (A) Hecatomb - Damage (11) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (13) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (13) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge (15) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (15) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 6: Build Up (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 8: Power Crash (A) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (17) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (45) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (48) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (50) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown Level 10: Resist Elements (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance (21) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (23) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance Level 12: Boxing (A) EmptyLevel 14: Tough (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance (19) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (46) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 16: Unyielding (A) Unbreakable Guard - Endurance/RechargeTime (25) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime (42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance (45) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (46) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance Level 18: Whirling Hands (A) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (25) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (27) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge (27) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (29) Armageddon - Damage (29) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance Level 20: Resist Energies (A) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance Level 22: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 24: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 26: Total Focus (A) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage (34) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/RechargeTime (34) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (36) Superior Critical Strikes - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Superior Critical Strikes - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime (36) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc Level 28: Invincibility (A) Reactive Defenses - Defense/RechargeTime (37) Reactive Defenses - Defense/Endurance (37) Reactive Defenses - Defense (37) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 30: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (39) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 32: Energy Transfer (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage (39) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge (39) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (40) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (40) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (45) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus Level 35: Tough Hide (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense Level 38: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 41: Moonbeam (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage (42) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime (42) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (46) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (50) Superior Winter's Bite - Recharge/Chance for -Speed & -Recharge Level 44: Super Jump (A) Jumping IOLevel 47: Dull Pain (A) Healing IOLevel 49: Unstoppable (A) Impervium Armor - Psionic ResistanceLevel 1: Critical Hit Level 1: Brawl | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1517;692;1384;HEX;| |78DA9594594F135114C7EFB45381B243A1547604BA4105A3890A880A68149A9034F| |1CDE00023344EDAA62D461EFD06AEF14516D7B87F10D7AFE10BA0717FAAA7F3FFD3| |36F2E44D26BF7BFFF79C73CFB97366A2D726ABDE9CBD3EAEB49A09CBC864E6620B6| |9239532D3E5D195AC918D27132A3FCAE469DDDD9A8B9A966946A612667A69158BAE| |C2DEA479D94C64CCC8B9C4D5154B2C8CF9B815CFAEAAEAD964D28A9C892F2D67E38| |9A55A7B35631A8B663AB31C4F55EDAE53B2E9B617B194692EFAA652F185482C6B58| |5724762CB962CD458D4CD64CAFB6484687E5590B298E9C4BDDD5951AD6957E87BC0| |DEEBB45DE04CB6F8023F9B234DB5757BF9CB6E6F8417E07EBFE80CDBFC151F1D1E8| |A3D1B69CB66EDA343096E727B82E393A99A3B3DF015B3F58152083604D880C831BE| |2EB82AF728595AD6D86F046F2F1CAEEA396BA3570601D3CB8416E82C30FC013E258| |81FC1D15CCDBC33A9A99B72636953CB33227433945A98697B3FA88862ABDC2765D8| |58242BFAE060FC1FB6950A95AD8BA6A79032D8CDCC11B0AD26780270F3293875259| |3D7DEB8FE1065A8E83FB47C831B0ED28390A9E941C1B5959E3EE798CDFC1F8BAD83| |4D1A6A90E757479C826B05E6CBCB4F1FE63D34D9B4792A78F6FC0770937DB6D90F3| |E08105729134C15312BFD56EA19CB3F52BF2EADD21B7C96F7C2362DB8E5CB4769ED| |D3F8DBDC7924327EFAAF32DB4FE77E407D0FF9EFC080E7C024F4BDC1EC6ED615C3F| |6B6C90BD3EECA9BE6E74DC67710BB0DEC033D4117C4EBE00075FB2E35EB1E35E835| |E8917663785038837265A845AA417DA846843D486D81F9D7AE10BCDB5E9852F3DBF| |94AE9CD9A3CCEA341745B3952D77E17BA5B2BD47D9292A0EED3C4E0E5DC06D0C6FE| |1C6BE146D34ED1E3A2ED485CC9F14FF41183E8FE84CDB7017E7F325F38B25F3D992| |F9786371FEFF6333EF5D9ACA74A870ABB9BF5F3F2C85| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Scrapper - EnergyMelee - Invulnerability.mxd Edited April 1, 2021 by BioFlame Clarity
Erratic1 Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BioFlame said: Hello allI. So, I have an Energy/Inv Scrapper at lvl 50, that I am now starting to IO out. I have some questions and doubts about some IOs and ATOs. 1- I've used Superior Critical Strikes on Total Focus and Superior Scrapper's Strike on Energy Transfer. Is that the way to go? I confess I don't understand really well the way ATOs work. 2- My resists are a bit low for Energy/Neg, which I believe is an important part of the endgame. On the other hand, my Fire/Cold are very high but I can't seem to find a good, cost-effective way to raise the energy/neg resists. 3- My defense is S/L + Fire capped but, again, the Energy/Neg defense isn't particularly high. Should I try to increase it more? And how? 4- I didn't go Hasten / Perma-Dull Pain because it felt I had to use too many recharge and sacrifice the Res/Def. Am I approaching it correctly or am I missing something? 5- I kept Barrage and Power Crash due to being somewhat mules for some important IOs but also because Barrage can be useful sometimes, and Power Crash when solo is also situationally useful. But I can totally see myself dropping power crash. 6- Unstoppable is a mule for IOs Any ideas, suggestions? (1) There is disagreements over the best placement of the Crit Proc and it matters depending on how much you optimize your attack sequence to squeeze out maximum damage. I am fairly relaxed about such things, and so would probably stick it in Whirling Hands to increase the likelihood of it proc'ing but other might tell you differently. Probably should listen to one of them (if they give you a detailed explanation for why to do otherwise). (2,3,4,6) If Unstoppable is only a mule, at the loss of some Psionic resistance for not taking the power, you could instead take Shadow Meld, seeing as you have access to it. Pop and for 15 seconds your defenses go through the roof. At your current global recharge it is up every 42 seconds for 15 seconds. Were you to achieve perma-Hasten that would become something like up every 24 seconds for 15 seconds. (∞) The order of your powers might be somewhat problematic if you ever decide to play lower level TFs/exemplar. I would swap Super Jump and Build Up and swap Dull Pain and Manuevers. Edit: Bless you for the data chunk. Wish more people included them. Edited April 1, 2021 by Erratic1
Thrax Posted April 1, 2021 Posted April 1, 2021 Here is my build. I would 100% recommend the Critical Strikes in Total Focus. It has a super high chance to proc there and then Energy Transfer and Bone Smasher get the bonus afterward. As long as S/L defense and resist are up there I find the rest is fine and when it isn't Dull Pain is enough. https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1356&c=646&a=1292&f=HEX&dc=78DA65945B4F1341188667BB5B6B5B0A94520139949643CF4B6BE285021E10340A4D48506F7169C7DAA4294D5B8DBDF41F281ABD521385AA37FE108F7FC3136AA2A05ED56FF77B2D089B6C9E99B7DFE19DD999666ECEB6BD3C77EBA450DACF148D6A7579295B31CA6559B1678C7C212BCCC7416FFF3F7D39238B52EA732559C9D77932DCFA6D565E95A5AAD4CF976E5C2F5284B15228166A75E15E5C5D2DEA678B85FCB59A87C7E6B050CAB759B305699469E2B2264B652973DEB97221ABCFACE6A88751ADC94ABD975C04E97D1813789A9AB8AD0991D6C4813BE01AF3E05DF01E73D25C8262E508D14383414D3C8A41A23A4ADC66C5B9C26084D91605634C37D5513947A84D7AC4142976AEACDAFFA856D4F86FF02733BCC59CA65807C7DA1D9BACB57F013F303B3F829F985D9F992728D7893ECE3D75C3BF9831F47D4C2B73B34BBBFB053BEF5A67766F800DE6E833F039D3467D3C58A1C75A61232A44073A77A0430C0E127090800395B2BD1CAB798FA8D63E8F2067621B446C1AB9A728C787FA3EC426513FB9F57FCE135A991FDFCC3FCD8E0F1D038F337B27C129A6E6E04F6ED6EFF12B9636D20D763213F35CFF29D5EFC3CEF55DE1B373D8005798035950328772CCD3D4A75F512C6FFDE833F483EB0E1D25595345104C56E1997206712E0791B34E1E02F01078C5F9C3AFC137E05B66F03DF88E3943F5425CCF1642BD51AC751C6BBD48A163F8C263E68522ED126911EC6B24CDDEA24950072798B114B341C7240EEFF16DDE0327F5D7515B47FF106929784AC5CD7E4E91DEC380D6BA9FCD01AD75BFCD299DC0857DCAA2D6BABB42B1944D1729CA6EE5EB3EE5DB8E625382BC63B6CBECD2768118D6C4F7DD310F7082EE836BCC8D9D7FA0E6BC8F2438FF0BEFF7DA25
LEUGIM6 Posted April 2, 2021 Author Posted April 2, 2021 My idea was to have aroundish 50% res, and have capped S/L defenses. And obviously covering the Psy hole with some imperviums. All in all, easier said than done. Btw, is moonbeam that good?
Mezmera Posted April 2, 2021 Posted April 2, 2021 I have an EM/Invuln stalker so maybe I can give a few pointers that may cross over. With ET I slot 5 of the Heca's with the proc plus also the pvp proc. For my pbaoe powers I like the winter set, oblit's and or maybe your scrapper ATO's. Then on my resists I like to slot them all to 4 with Unbreakable Guards for that melee defense bonus. I do take Unstoppable too and slot it with the Steadfast unique plus the Gladiator Armor unique I'd work in on one of the resists too. As for pools I take Hasten, it's too good to pass up and allows you to get out those nasty ET's more frequently. I also have Fighting, Leadership and I like Force of Will for the defense shield when I really need it which'll softcap all of my elementals except psi and positional except ranged which will still be pretty good. I look at Unleash Potential as a longer lasting less intrusive version of Shadow Meld. 1
Marshal_General Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 This is the build I am looking at for end game. My character is only 38 at the moment though. Using the beta dps calculator in the planner, it show that if I go ET>BS>EP>TF>ET I would have 580 dps. I am sure it is counting on having Energy focus for the first ET, I wish it would let me select the order. Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Lady All-Star 2: Level 50 Technology ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Energy MeleeSecondary Power Set: InvulnerabilityPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Barrage -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(5)Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(7), UnbGrd-ResDam(7), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9)Level 2: Energy Punch -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(11), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(11), TchofDth-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), TchofDth-Dam%(13)Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctArm-ResDam(19)Level 6: Bone Smasher -- SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg(21), TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), TchofDth-Dam%(23)Level 8: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)Level 10: Dull Pain -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(25), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(25), Prv-Heal/Rchg(27), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(27), Prv-Absorb%(29)Level 12: Power Crash -- ClvBlo-Acc/Dmg(A), ClvBlo-Dmg/EndRdx(29), ClvBlo-Dmg/Rchg(31), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Erd-%Dam(33)Level 14: Resist Elements -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A)Level 16: Unyielding -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RctArm-ResDam(33), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(34)Level 18: Whirling Hands -- Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erd-Dmg/Rchg(34), Erd-%Dam(34), ClvBlo-Acc/Dmg(36), ClvBlo-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ClvBlo-Dmg/Rchg(36)Level 20: Resist Energies -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37)Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)Level 24: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 26: Total Focus -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(40)Level 28: Invincibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(40), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(40), Rct-ResDam%(42), GssSynFr--Build%(42)Level 30: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RctArm-ResDam(43), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(43)Level 32: Energy Transfer -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Hct-Dam%(45), Hct-Dmg(46)Level 35: Tough Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(46)Level 38: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(46), LucoftheG-Def(48)Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 44: Focused Accuracy -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(50)Level 47: Laser Beam Eyes -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50)Level 49: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15), Mrc-Rcvry+(15)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17)Level 1: Energy FocusLevel 50: Musculature Radial ParagonLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx ReserveLevel 50: The Atlas Medallion------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1429;693;1386;HEX;| |78DA6593596F125114C7EFC0D0054A295DA495B62C852E6069E9AB6B6BAB5169825| |27D30A938852B251981001A79F41B6835F1458D7169AC1A3F88EBD7505BAA89FAE0| |139E99F32F34E92493DFB9E79C7BB67BEFF29DC5AEF767EF9E144AF7695DAB54D2A| |94C592B9564D9BE2233EB85A25ECCD5047DAE8496ADF9E7757D3A55D5CAFEB976D2| |79F77CD3CB529732B65490E55C8D17FEA66D51DE90858A8C9D2BDCBEA59387B696D| |7F3D59A70248B453D7646CFE7D6AB76534E95A4CC3A596D68F3859CCB5C25A49695| |E5CA7ABEE45E2AE533B1856296D26895AA2CD706A99030FD4F22025F4315F75421E| |2AAB0DC073798EA03F021F3A8D18562EEB10A0F0923AA689BB39AB6B63FC4095574| |FCE5F5638AAFB0AF4DF9C0BA8E4F4CFB57F0AA30F7745D03D3CC6394C7CA7B2DD65| |1C5D4F50498BD41E6538A6F437CDB478ED7FB99D9FF0544FC43AB20E23B287E3BF7| |2EDABDEC7B9C149D88D7F98D7583DFC11FCCC3DBE00E73B8CE7C46B538B0D7A10BB| |6DD648E16C01D8B39AFD13AD3BFCB3C41799DBC5738FF71BCCD29BA4098B30BFDFB| |D1BF1FFD077CCCE794DBCDBDD8DCC811D80691630C358DA1A631D4748A72F7711EA| |50FE717C2F905C93600DB40D4F0EF1421D042360FE6E769D0275E50154398C0D075| |BE2D218D39BE0666C02C734232E7299AD7BC2A0DD56BA4346CFDE005AE66EA37B86| |53169A53D2398D008263485094530A10826F4926AF36142BE242148B68BCC2397C0| |1418E5F8D3E3CC05CA13C41482A86D1AB5A9640BE39686F76C3DCC19F8B8C96712A| |73B099F156A258A98D1004F340E5E265B0CAF32F69AE733B305BE61C6DF82EF989B| |4E21669163F611D7ED539B2FB531AC365FBAB1A4D34A1CD02455B893463135757BF| |3FD42B37B40F3B3A5B128013EA1EE2BDC65F7799EFEAF968FA2A0BA9E0DE6AB48AB| |CA441FA9206BF696BCBA4F4EEE93D7F6C9FF016789E2EC| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| 1
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