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bigfashizzel

bigfashizzel

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Hi all,

 

working on my Kin/Sonic defender and enjoying it tremendously! I've done my best here to create a great team build with good soloability (insofar as that's possible!) 

 

I have a wonderful tip to share for any Sonic Blast defenders. 

You can put damage procs in Siren's Song and it doesnt break the sleep (due to the 0.25s delay on the sleep application)

 

I'm looking for general feedback as well as specific feedback on the following:

  • Proposed Incarnates: Nerve, Diamagnetic (100% to-hit, 50% regen), Support, Ageless
  • Damage levels; do you feel like the attacks are slotted in a way that makes sense?
  • Resilience: hardest thing for me to evaluate and balance!

 

Thank you!

 

 

 

 

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Kinetics
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Psychic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Transfusion -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(3), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Prv-Heal/Rchg(5), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(5), Prv-Absorb%(7)
Level 1: Shriek -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(17), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(21)
Level 2: Scream -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(11), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 4: Howl -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(11), Artl-Dam/Rech(13), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(13), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(15), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(15)
Level 6: Siphon Speed -- Acc-I(A)
Level 8: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 12: Speed Boost -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 14: Stealth -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(27), DefBuff-I(27)
Level 16: Grant Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Phase Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(19)
Level 20: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(25), DefBuff-I(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(46), Ksm-ToHit+(50)
Level 22: Tactics -- ToHit-I(A)
Level 24: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Transference -- PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(34), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(37), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(37), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(40), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(43)
Level 28: Siren's Song -- PstBls-Dam%(A), JvlVll-Dam%(29), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(29), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(31), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), Ann-ResDeb%(31)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(33), DefBuff-I(33)
Level 32: Fulcrum Shift -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Screech -- Apc-Dam%(A), GldJvl-Dam%(36), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(36), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(37)
Level 38: Dreadful Wail -- SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(39), Arm-Dam%(40), Erd-%Dam(40)
Level 41: Dominate -- NrnSht-Dam%(A), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(42), UnbCns-Dam%(42), GldNet-Dam%(42), GldJvl-Dam%(43), HO:Nucle(43)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(45), UnbGrd-ResDam(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), UnbGrd-Max HP%(46)
Level 47: World of Confusion -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(48), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(48), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(48), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(50), CrcPrs-Conf%(50)
Level 49: Mass Hypnosis -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(33), Mrc-Rcvry+(34)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), EndMod-I(34)
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Psylenz0511

Psylenz0511

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What is your base accuracy and +tohit? I would think you need more accuracy slotted especially for fulcrum shift, siphon speed and transfusion. 

I don't mind muling procs and such in combat jumping, but its way overslotted for defense. Defense from combat jump is negligible. If you want the set bonus I would put more defense in grant invis, vengeance or stealth.

 

I am not a fan of phase shift. If you are low on health, get in position for transfusion. You cannot buff teammates with phase shift running.

 

If you are stealthing with stealth and the stealth proc in sprint, you will need a teleport target (for friends as well as for tp foe) to bring the team to your position reliably.

 

I would dump combat jumping, world of confusion and mass hypnosis to pick up teleport target, teleport (or combat teleport) and fold space. You can pile up foes as you like then for bigger fulcrum shifts. You will help the team to kill spawns faster than if you rely on world of confusion and mass hypnosis for mitigation.

 

Just my two cents worth.

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bigfashizzel

bigfashizzel

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That makes a ton of sense to me, Psylenz.  I'd struggled with the decision regarding Fold Space;

Combat jumping as it is slotted provides 4% def.  The same amount as Stealth.

 

With Nerve, I feel pretty good about the Acc!

MoonSheep

MoonSheep

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hey it’s my time to shine, a kin/sonic def is one of the two characters i play and have played it a lot over the last 2 years

 

fold space is fantastic and is a great setup for a meaty fulcrum shift if things are spread out

 

i only use my sonic attacks for their debuff components, screech and howl being the two best (screech long lasting, howl a nice debuff cone). wail a great one too, especially if you land yours just before someone else nukes - softens them up

 

i took assault as well as manuvers/tactics for low level teaming (every little helps) 

 

recall friend is very useful to have so you can TP a corpse and veng off it. i took soul mastery for power boost, really helps with veng and makes the heal much more powerful. that helps a lot if your team tank is going south as they can be hard to heal

 

power boost + transference is also quite fun as a powerful end drainer

 

other than having 2 acc in most kin powers, some heal on trans and rech on FS/siphon power it’s a very flexible character and i wouldn’t worry much at all about slotting the perfect build etc. being a good kin during play is much more important than the build

 

it’s one you can really just enjoy and slot in the way you find fun, e.g if you’re into procs etc or you enjoy building up a certain attribute

 

enjoy 🙂

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Meknomancer

Meknomancer

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Not a combo i tried on a fender although do have a sonic/kin corr (doesn't matter how often i play fenders i always prefer the corr version regardless of buffs/debuffs scourge just does it for me) and i'm not a fan of teleport pool, squeezing it into builds means leaving out too much good stuff like repel/assault/vengeance/amplify but something like this may work. No fighting pool means its just a little low on numbers defensively and resists wise. Put together with minimal inf in mind so its just the defender AT bits in and a couple pvp pieces. Shockwave is there purely to bump recharge. With the bump to travel powers i find i can get around faster now with fly-evasive-hover-afterburner running than i could with ss+cj and this comes from someone who only used to run those travel powers on every single alt. Now every alt gets fly if i can unless its a pure melee toon. So ghosting to the end of missions isn't a problem with a celerity thrown in sprint. With tp pool there wasn't room for sirens song either:

 

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

KIN SONIC: Level 50 Science Defender
Primary Power Set: Kinetics
Secondary Power Set: Sonic Attack
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Transfusion            NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(5), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(9)
Level 1:    Shriek                SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(9), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), GldJvl-Dam%(11)
Level 2:    Scream                Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23)
Level 4:    Teleport Target            WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 6:    Siphon Speed            Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(17)
Level 8:    Increase Density        GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 10:    Howl                SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(A), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(19), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(21), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(21)
Level 12:    Speed Boost            BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(48)
Level 14:    Fly                BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(27)
Level 16:    Teleport            EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18:    Hover                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(29), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(29), Rct-ResDam%(31), BlsoftheZ-Travel(31), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(31)
Level 20:    Shockwave            OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(46), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(49), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(50), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(50)
Level 22:    Evasive Maneuvers        LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24:    Maneuvers            RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(33), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(34), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RedFrt-Def(34), RedFrt-EndRdx(37)
Level 26:    Transference            PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(40), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(42), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(43)
Level 28:    Fold Space            RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48), Acc-I(50)
Level 30:    Tactics                GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(43), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(43), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(46), GssSynFr--ToHit(47), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(48)
Level 32:    Fulcrum Shift            Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(33)
Level 35:    Screech                Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(36), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 38:    Dreadful Wail            SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Erd-%Dam(39), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 41:    Team Teleport            RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44:    Dark Embrace            StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Ags-ResDam(46)
Level 47:    Power Boost            RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(47)
Level 49:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(49)
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 1:    Vigilance    
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Health                Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(3)
Level 1:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(3)
Level 14:    Afterburner    
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