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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Experimentation
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Havoc Punch

  • (A) Power Transfer - Damage/Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance
  • (3) Power Transfer - Chance to Heal Self
  • (3) Power Transfer - Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Power Transfer - EndMod
  • (5) Power Transfer - Damage/EndMod
  • (7) Power Transfer - Damage/Accuracy/Endurance

Level 1: Hide

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (7) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (9) Red Fortune - Endurance
  • (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (11) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (11) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge

Level 2: Deflection

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (13) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (13) Red Fortune - Endurance
  • (15) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (15) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (17) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Battle Agility

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (17) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (19) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (19) Red Fortune - Endurance
  • (21) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (21) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge

Level 6: Assassin's Shock

  • (A) Superior Stalker's Guile - Recharge/Chance to Hide
  • (23) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (23) Superior Stalker's Guile - Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage
  • (25) Superior Stalker's Guile - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 8: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (33) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 10: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (27) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (27) Red Fortune - Endurance
  • (29) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (29) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (31) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge

Level 12: Speed of Sound

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 14: Chain Induction

  • (A) Superior Assassin's Mark - RechargeTime/Rchg Build Up
  • (43) Superior Assassin's Mark - Damage/RechargeTime
  • (43) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
  • (46) Superior Assassin's Mark - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (48) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage
  • (50) Superior Assassin's Mark - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 16: True Grit

  • (A) Panacea - Heal
  • (36) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
  • (37) Panacea - Heal/Recharge
  • (37) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge

Level 18: Active Defense

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 20: Experimental Injection

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 22: Against All Odds

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 24: Super Speed

  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 26: Burnout

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (34) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 28: Whirlwind

  • (A) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
  • (34) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge
  • (34) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (36) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 30: Adrenal Booster

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (36) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 32: Lightning Rod

  • (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (40) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Obliteration - Damage
  • (42) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 35: Thunder Strike

  • (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
  • (39) Obliteration - Damage
  • (39) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (40) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 38: Grant Cover

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 41: One with the Shield

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 44: Shield Charge

  • (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
  • (45) Armageddon - Damage
  • (45) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (46) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge

Level 47: Superior Conditioning

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (48) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
  • (48) Synapse's Shock - EndMod

Level 49: Physical Perfection

  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (50) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
  • (50) Synapse's Shock - EndMod

Level 1: Assassination 


Level 1: Brawl

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hit 50 with this guy and started testing the build out in radio missions, set to 1 person, no notoriety buffs or anything. Was still getting wiped at the first group, it was a bit hard to play. 

As you can see I min/max'd for recharge in this build to try and get LR and SC as low as possible, as well as slotting FF+rech in everything i could and taking whirlwind to add to the chaos. I slacked on defenses to go for extra recharge, is that why the build is so weak? Am I missing something? as it stands from hide I can kill 1 thing and then as soon as I break hide, I can knock people down and try to CC but it's just delaying the inevitable, I get washed.

TBH i'm also pretty new, I only have a fire farmer and this is my first fully IO'd build other than my farmer, so will this build only operate in a team where I wont get focused instantly? I honestly thought full set IO's meant that you could solo anything 😛

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The biggest issue I see here is that you maximized recharge at the expense of defense. What are your positional defense values? Typically with Shield Defense people chase defense up to at least 45% for melee/ranged/AoE, then either switch focus to resistance or recharge.

 

Also I'm a rare one in that I like whirlwind on several AT's, but it isn't doing you any good as a Stalker other than breaking hide and messing up your chance to crit.

 

Your IO choices and slotting is kinda all over the place, look at how you slot physical perfection or superior conditioning for example. I'd replace the efficacy adapter and use the Synapse's Shock Proc for increased run speed +end mod and hit a quick 7.5% move speed bonus in at least one of them. But still it seems counterproductive to how you manage endurance.

 

Realistically you should look at some of the other builds here as you picked essentially a flavor of the month in that Elec/SD Stalkers are very common so there's tons of builds out there.

 

Good luck.

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Onlyasandwich

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I recently revamped my own Elec/Shield - perhaps it will be a useful reference point.

 

This build features:

  • Softcap to all positions.
  • Near immunity to slows.
  • Moderate global recharge.
  • Extra proccy goodness squeezed in where possible for more damage.

 

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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Lost Transmission: Level 50 Science Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- SprAssMar-Rchg/Rchg Build Up(A), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg(3), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15)
Level 2: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(5), Rct-Def/EndRdx(11), Rct-ResDam%(13), RctArm-ResDam(13), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(15)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- RedFrt-Def(A), RedFrt-EndRdx(17), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(19), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(19), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(39), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprStlGl-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprStlGl-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprStlGl-Rchg/Hide%(11)
Level 8: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(29), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--ToHit(40)
Level 10: True Grit -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(21), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), Prv-Absorb%(31), Prv-Heal(50)
Level 12: Teleport -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(17)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(31), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(46)
Level 16: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), GldStr-%Dam(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25), Hct-Dam%(25)
Level 20: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 24: Kick -- ExpStr-Dmg/KB(A), ExpStr-Acc/KB(37), ExpStr-Dam%(37)
Level 26: Thunder Strike -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Arm-Dam%(43)
Level 28: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg(33), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Erd-%Dam(50)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(36), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Obl-%Dam(43)
Level 38: One with the Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 41: Combat Teleport -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Zapp -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(45), Apc-Dam%(45), GldJvl-Dam%(46), StnoftheM-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Assassination 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(29)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(34)
Level 49: Quick Form 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany 
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon 
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wubbahducky

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9 hours ago, SeraphimKensai said:

The biggest issue I see here is that you maximized recharge at the expense of defense. What are your positional defense values? Typically with Shield Defense people chase defense up to at least 45% for melee/ranged/AoE, then either switch focus to resistance or recharge.

 

Also I'm a rare one in that I like whirlwind on several AT's, but it isn't doing you any good as a Stalker other than breaking hide and messing up your chance to crit.

 

Your IO choices and slotting is kinda all over the place, look at how you slot physical perfection or superior conditioning for example. I'd replace the efficacy adapter and use the Synapse's Shock Proc for increased run speed +end mod and hit a quick 7.5% move speed bonus in at least one of them. But still it seems counterproductive to how you manage endurance.

 

Realistically you should look at some of the other builds here as you picked essentially a flavor of the month in that Elec/SD Stalkers are very common so there's tons of builds out there.

 

Good luck.

lol, good to hear that you are a fellow whirlwind enjoyer. Thanks for all the advice, I figured my recharge maximizing was the issue here. Thanks for letting me know about the whirlwind stalker synergy as well, I wasn't thinking about that.

 

 

28 minutes ago, Onlyasandwich said:

I recently revamped my own Elec/Shield - perhaps it will be a useful reference point.

 

This build features:

  • Softcap to all positions.
  • Near immunity to slows.
  • Moderate global recharge.
  • Extra proccy goodness squeezed in where possible for more damage.

 

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This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Lost Transmission: Level 50 Science Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- SprAssMar-Rchg/Rchg Build Up(A), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg(3), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Hide -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(15)
Level 2: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(5), Rct-Def/EndRdx(11), Rct-ResDam%(13), RctArm-ResDam(13), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(15)
Level 4: Battle Agility -- RedFrt-Def(A), RedFrt-EndRdx(17), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(19), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(19), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(39), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprStlGl-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), SprStlGl-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprStlGl-Rchg/Hide%(11)
Level 8: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(29), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(34), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(39), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--ToHit(40)
Level 10: True Grit -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(21), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(27), Prv-Absorb%(31), Prv-Heal(50)
Level 12: Teleport -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(17)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(31), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(46)
Level 16: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Chain Induction -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), GldStr-%Dam(23), TchofDth-Dam%(25), Hct-Dam%(25)
Level 20: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 24: Kick -- ExpStr-Dmg/KB(A), ExpStr-Acc/KB(37), ExpStr-Dam%(37)
Level 26: Thunder Strike -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Arm-Dam%(43)
Level 28: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(31)
Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Arm-Dmg(33), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Arm-Acc/Rchg(34), Erd-%Dam(50)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(36), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Obl-%Dam(43)
Level 38: One with the Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 41: Combat Teleport -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(43)
Level 44: Zapp -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(45), Apc-Dam%(45), GldJvl-Dam%(46), StnoftheM-Dam%(46)
Level 47: Ball Lightning -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Assassination 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(29)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(34)
Level 49: Quick Form 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 50: Ageless Radial Epiphany 
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon 
------------

 

 

thanks for the build m8 i think i'll start working on porting my build over to this 

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