Glowman Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 11:37 PM, Emprad said: I just made the S/L afk build and I'll say that i dont have any incarnates on him yet so I don't have agility or ageless to help but I sent him in the 5 min afk farm and his end crashed in less than a minute with all 11 toggles and just atom smasher on auto.. are all 11 toggles nessicary? Will agility and ageless fix this? Other than the end problem it seems like an amazing afk build though, thank you! Expand I also had this issue with all tier 3 incarnates. I make sure any travel stuff is off (sprint, etc) and leave maneuvers off. To compensate I eat 2 purples when I park in the middle of the map. That’s plenty of time to take the alpha and def is fine for rest of map.
Emprad Posted April 22, 2023 Posted April 22, 2023 (edited) On 4/22/2023 at 3:14 PM, Glowman said: I also had this issue with all tier 3 incarnates. I make sure any travel stuff is off (sprint, etc) and leave maneuvers off. To compensate I eat 2 purples when I park in the middle of the map. That’s plenty of time to take the alpha and def is fine for rest of map. Expand Ah ok cool, thanks for the tip! If the build isn't working properly with T3s then T4s will hopefully fix that! They should fix it because there was no disclaimer that this build is horrible on end and it might become a problem. would have been nice to know before dumping 600mil into him or however much it was I forget and I'm broke too, this is supposed to be my moneymaker so I can actually start IOing my fun toons finally! That being said, I don't know if it's this specific build but I have been hearing that elec/rad is the king of afk right now so I'll trust it and hope that T4s fix it Edited April 22, 2023 by Emprad
Glowman Posted April 23, 2023 Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) I will let you know once I've reached full tier 4s, but buying/converting 2 purples isn't a big deal if that's all it takes. Clears the map afk in under 10 mins easy and is a great passive money maker. I think inspirations are the most underrated resource in all of CoH, personally. I also prefer one of the 10 min recharge radial pets so that I can summon each map. Edited April 23, 2023 by Glowman
Retired Community Rep Americas Angel Posted April 23, 2023 Retired Community Rep Posted April 23, 2023 On 4/21/2023 at 11:37 PM, Emprad said: I just made the S/L afk build and I'll say that i dont have any incarnates on him yet so I don't have agility or ageless to help but I sent him in the 5 min afk farm and his end crashed in less than a minute with all 11 toggles and just atom smasher on auto.. are all 11 toggles nessicary? Will agility and ageless fix this? Other than the end problem it seems like an amazing afk build though, thank you! Expand Shouldn't be end crashing. Let me check tomorrow. I think you might be toggling on something that's just a set mule, but it's been a while since I messed with the build so will need to double check. 1 1 My Stuff: Fightclub PvP Discord (Melee PvP tournaments, builds, and beta testing) Influence Farming Guide (General guide to farming, with maps and builds)
Emprad Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) On 4/23/2023 at 11:29 PM, CR Americas Angel said: Shouldn't be end crashing. Let me check tomorrow. I think you might be toggling on something that's just a set mule, but it's been a while since I messed with the build so will need to double check. Expand Thank you! I actually noticed that focused acc is a insane end hog I forget the numbers but like double what tactics is and I figure there's tactics so I turned off FA and it's a bit better but still crashing sometimes. And I have my alpha and destiny t4 now so if it was a lack of incarnates before it isn't anymore. So without FA I still have 10 toggles on, and the end crashes sometimes still, is 10 toggles correct? I'm not at home to list exactly which ones.. I guess I should have been smart and read through each toggle and see what ones I actually need because some might not benefit a SL farm it's just been a super busy weekend so I just kinda tried to let him do his own thing lol its odd though because it doesn't crash constantly, ill kinda watch him do a full 5-10 min farm while I'm doing stuff around the house and no crash but then I don't watch him for 20 mins while he's sitting in PD and come back and he's crashed.. he does crash occasionally in the mission too but you know just weird random crashes... Edited April 24, 2023 by Emprad
Emprad Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) On 4/23/2023 at 11:29 PM, CR Americas Angel said: Shouldn't be end crashing. Let me check tomorrow. I think you might be toggling on something that's just a set mule, but it's been a while since I messed with the build so will need to double check. Expand I just got home to look at the toggles and it seems like 8-9 are mandatory whether tacitcs needs to be on or not.. There's 11 toggles total including the 2 acc/tohit toggles (focused acc and tactics), to be soft/capped on def and res I need all of the 6 def and res toggles on (charged armor, tough, Weave, CJ, hover, maneuvers) and obvuoustly the 2 damage aura toggles have to be on so thats 8 mandatory toggles... does this build need either tactics and or focused acc on or can it go without? The only toggle that seems unneeded is static shield, it protects against hold, sleep, disorient, end drain, rec debuff, psi and teleport.. none of those are in a SL farm right? So I can leave SS off I guess.. I'll try with SS off and tactics on along with all the mandatory toggles and see how it goes. Edited April 24, 2023 by Emprad
Emprad Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 (edited) I'm sorry last message, it turns I don't need hover either of I sacrifice the kismet in CJ.. I noticed my def was around 47.75, hover is the lowest def buff in my build, so if I turn off hover and take out the kismet from CJ and put in a def +5 IO it brings my def up to 45.06... I'm running charged armor, tough, Weave, CJ (replacing the kismet with a def+5 IO), maneuvers, the 2 damage toggles and tactics and its working like a charm! Ok no more until you reply sorry lol 😋 Edited April 24, 2023 by Emprad
Vinyl Richie Posted April 24, 2023 Posted April 24, 2023 Is there a minimum accuracy requirement for NPCs with Super Reflexes?
Emprad Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 (edited) On 4/24/2023 at 9:43 PM, Vinyl Richie said: Is there a minimum accuracy requirement for NPCs with Super Reflexes? Expand I don't know, I'm sure there is.. speaking of that I have noticed a few missed here or there without the kismet and focused acc on.. I don't know how else to fix this build though, hopefully the OP will explain how to actually use the build for a newb like me to understand lol Edited April 25, 2023 by Emprad 1
Glowman Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 I'm wondering if both focused accuracy and tactics aren't just set mules for the recharge bonuses. I turned both off and it didn't seem to make any difference in my ability to clear the map in under 10 mins while afk (assuming the mobs came my way and/or I was able to alt + tab to reposition once in a while).
Tonio Posted April 25, 2023 Posted April 25, 2023 On 8/28/2022 at 1:55 PM, America's Angel said: **FEBRUARY 2023 SMASHING/LETHAL UPDATE** Okay, so after a bunch of testing, the best active farmer is a Rad/MA Tank, and the best AFK farmer is an Elec/Rad Tank. This means that smashing/lethal farming is now better than fire farming. (The difference isn't huge. It's probably not worth switching over from fire farming for most people.) I've posted the guide/builds/maps in this post here: Even though Smashing/Lethal farming is better, Fire Farming is still good. The rest of this post will explain how to fire farm with a rad/fire brute. (For those of you who don't want to switch over.) ***How To Fire Farm in Page 5*** ACTIVE FARMING Build: For Active Farming (i.e. you at your computer actively playing) use the attached build called "AA_ACTIVE_Page4" (All the incarnates in the build are required. Alpha slot being T3 most of all...as this will stop you getting knocked down.) Map: #41794. Settings: +4/8 Difficulty AVs set to on. (This will keep the helper alive.) How to Play: Empty slot in burn is for the perfect zinger proc. Just spam your AoEs and everything will die. There's a helper in the map who will summon phantom army's to help you bunch up the mobs. (You can do the same with your banished pantheon lore pet. Although I'd reccomend saving the lore pet for when the helper NPC spawns too far away from the centre of the map.) You'll want to pick up the Increased Attack Rate base buff and Offense Amplifier P2W buff. AFK FARMING Build: For AFK farming use the attached build called "AA_AFK_Page5" (All the incarnates in the build are required. Alpha slot being T3 most of all...as this will stop you getting knocked down.) Map: For 5 min AFK farming use map #51289 For 10 Min AFK farming use map #38973 Settings: +4/8 Difficulty How to play: Jump into middle of map. Hit assault hybrid +ageless as you leap. Put burn on auto. Come back every 5/10 mins to reset. You will need the +HP and +end accolades, or the Survival Amplifier from P2W. TRIPLE-BOX FARMING OPTIMAL SETUPS: 3x AFK farmers resetting every 5/10 mins = ~80 million inf per hour 1 x active farmer resetting every 3 mins + 2 x AFK farmers resetting every 5 mins = ~150 million inf per hourMAKING YOUR OWN FARM Not a fan of the meteor map? Pick whatever map you want and then give your mobs the following power selections: Minions: Lieutenants: Bosses (Active): Bosses (AFK): HOW TO ACTIVE FARM Here's a video of me running the build. Sorry for the jitteryness, my OBS-fu is weak: HOW TO DAMAGE CAP YOURSELF WITH INSPS Put the attached file "FarmPro.mnu" into your C:\Games\Homecoming\data\texts\English\menus folder. (Or whatever the path name is for your installation) Then when you're in-game on your farmer, type the following into the chat and press enter: /bind e "popmenu farmpro" Then when you're in the farm, spam the "e" button to combine your inspirations into reds + eat them. (The "e" button will do both.) AA_ACTIVE_Page4.mxd 5.56 kB · 671 downloads FarmPro.mnu 696 B · 333 downloads AA_AFK_Page5.mxd 5.66 kB · 440 downloads Expand The AFK fire build has no Burn, but the "how to afk farm" mentions putting Burn on auto. Should I use Atom Smasher, or is that an error in the build? Also, mids is showing a Knockback Protection of "1". Is that correct? Thanks!
Glowman Posted April 26, 2023 Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/25/2023 at 11:14 PM, Tonio said: The AFK fire build has no Burn, but the "how to afk farm" mentions putting Burn on auto. Should I use Atom Smasher, or is that an error in the build? Also, mids is showing a Knockback Protection of "1". Is that correct? Thanks! Expand Ya, auto atom smasher.
Emprad Posted April 26, 2023 Posted April 26, 2023 What's with this keeping your alpha at t3 for kb protection? I don't see anything about kb protection in the info anywhere, maybe I'm just not seeing it.. and why would the t3s have it and not t4? Weird..
Emprad Posted April 26, 2023 Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) On 4/25/2023 at 4:05 PM, Glowman said: I'm wondering if both focused accuracy and tactics aren't just set mules for the recharge bonuses. I turned both off and it didn't seem to make any difference in my ability to clear the map in under 10 mins while afk (assuming the mobs came my way and/or I was able to alt + tab to reposition once in a while). Expand Yea I'm thinking they aren't needed, with both then off and taking kismet out of CJ I'm still hitting, the occasional miss but nothing to worry about. I'm fine with sacrificing kismet and dropping a whole toggle (hover as I mentioned in a previous post) to get an occasional miss. Edited April 26, 2023 by Emprad
Emprad Posted April 26, 2023 Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/25/2023 at 11:14 PM, Tonio said: The AFK fire build has no Burn, but the "how to afk farm" mentions putting Burn on auto. Should I use Atom Smasher, or is that an error in the build? Also, mids is showing a Knockback Protection of "1". Is that correct? Thanks! Expand As far as the kb prot goes, in the OPs post it says that if you keep your alpha at t3 it helps but I don't know how because I don't see kb prot in its info.. hopefully the OP or someone can explain..
Vinyl Richie Posted April 26, 2023 Posted April 26, 2023 On 4/25/2023 at 5:07 AM, Emprad said: I don't know, I'm sure there is.. speaking of that I have noticed a few missed here or there without the kismet and focused acc on.. I don't know how else to fix this build though, hopefully the OP will explain how to actually use the build for a newb like me to understand lol Expand Thank you!
Kachooman Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) I updated my RAD/Fire Brute because I was too lazy to roll again, have been able to fire farm afk with this dude using Xtomic maps. Just if anyone was interested. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Radiation MeleeSecondary Power Set: Fiery AuraPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: FlightAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Contaminated Strike (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 1: Fire Shield (A) Aegis - Resistance (7) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (9) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 2: Blazing Aura (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (11) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (11) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End (13) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (15) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 4: Healing Flames (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 6: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 8: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (21) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 10: Radioactive Smash (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (23) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (23) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy (25) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (25) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 12: Taunt (A) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate (27) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge (27) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range (29) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge (29) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Range (31) Mocking Beratement - Recharge Level 14: Boxing (A) Empty Level 16: Plasma Shield (A) Aegis - Resistance (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 18: Irradiated Ground (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (33) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (33) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (34) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (34) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage Level 20: Consume (A) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate (34) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge (36) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range (36) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Range (37) Mocking Beratement - Recharge Level 22: Tough (A) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance/Regeneration Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 26: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 28: Burn (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (37) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (37) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Vengeance (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 32: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 35: Atom Smasher (A) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (40) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (40) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (40) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy (42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (42) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 38: Electrifying Fences (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize Level 41: Ball Lightning (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (46) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy (46) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance Level 44: Rise of the Phoenix (A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff (46) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Endurance (48) Absolute Amazement - Recharge/Accuracy (48) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge/Accuracy (48) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge Level 47: Summon Striker (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge Level 49: Temperature Protection (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl Edited April 27, 2023 by Kachooman No Sig
Emprad Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 5:59 AM, Kachooman said: I updated my RAD/Fire Brute because I was too lazy to roll again, have been able to fire farm afk with this dude using Xtomic maps. Just if anyone was interested. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Radiation MeleeSecondary Power Set: Fiery AuraPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: FlightAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Contaminated Strike (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance (3) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (5) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (7) Superior Blistering Cold - Recharge/Chance for Hold Level 1: Fire Shield (A) Aegis - Resistance (7) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (9) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge (9) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 2: Blazing Aura (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (11) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (11) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (13) Superior Unrelenting Fury - RechargeTime/+Regen/+End (13) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (15) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 4: Healing Flames (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 6: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 8: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (21) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 10: Radioactive Smash (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge (23) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (23) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy (25) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance (25) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) Level 12: Taunt (A) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate (27) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge (27) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range (29) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge (29) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Range (31) Mocking Beratement - Recharge Level 14: Boxing (A) Empty Level 16: Plasma Shield (A) Aegis - Resistance (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (31) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 18: Irradiated Ground (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (33) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (33) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (33) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (34) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (34) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage Level 20: Consume (A) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate (34) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge (36) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range (36) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Mocking Beratement - Threat/Placate/Range (37) Mocking Beratement - Recharge Level 22: Tough (A) Impervious Skin - Status Resistance/Regeneration Level 24: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 26: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 28: Burn (A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown (37) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage (37) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 30: Vengeance (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 32: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 35: Atom Smasher (A) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (40) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (40) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (40) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy (42) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (42) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff Level 38: Electrifying Fences (A) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage (42) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Recharge/Chance for Immobilize Level 41: Ball Lightning (A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (46) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy (46) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance Level 44: Rise of the Phoenix (A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff (46) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Endurance (48) Absolute Amazement - Recharge/Accuracy (48) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge/Accuracy (48) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge Level 47: Summon Striker (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge Level 49: Temperature Protection (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 1: Fury Level 1: Brawl Expand How's this build for afk survivability? The s/l build and suggested farm from this thread seems to die quite often.. I would rather not have to watch a afk farmer seeing as in you know it's afk lol.. it seems like almost half the time when I check on him he's dead from the 10min afk farm that AA made.. the 5min one he usually survives fine.
Kachooman Posted April 27, 2023 Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) On 4/27/2023 at 7:09 PM, Emprad said: How's this build for afk survivability? The s/l build and suggested farm from this thread seems to die quite often.. I would rather not have to watch a afk farmer seeing as in you know it's afk lol.. it seems like almost half the time when I check on him he's dead from the 10min afk farm that AA made.. the 5min one he usually survives fine. Expand The crater farm he is alive so far. Early days for testing though, but seems to have enough survival for the new fire farms. I still think a tanker is going to do better than this, but it doesn't seem like a night and day sort of shift. With a bit more testing he is faceplanting sometimes still. Less often than when I started, but still happening. I am actually finding better AFK results doing the tunnel, plonk him in between 4 groups, coming back in 5 rinse and repeat Edited April 28, 2023 by Kachooman No Sig
Emprad Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) On 4/27/2023 at 10:20 PM, Kachooman said: The crater farm he is alive so far. Early days for testing though, but seems to have enough survival for the new fire farms. I still think a tanker is going to do better than this, but it doesn't seem like a night and day sort of shift. With a bit more testing he is faceplanting sometimes still. Less often than when I started, but still happening. I am actually finding better AFK results doing the tunnel, plonk him in between 4 groups, coming back in 5 rinse and repeat Expand Yea I think afk farming still requires a certain level of attention if you don't want him to die.. or do what you do and just run a normal active map and move around when you need to so youbdont have an entire asteroid map attacking you afk. I was hoping that it could actually be fully afk farming but I guess not unless if you go with easier maps with less or lower lvl baddies then it's not really farming any more. Edited April 28, 2023 by Emprad
Tonio Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) On 4/27/2023 at 7:09 PM, Emprad said: How's this build for afk survivability? The s/l build and suggested farm from this thread seems to die quite often.. I would rather not have to watch a afk farmer seeing as in you know it's afk lol.. it seems like almost half the time when I check on him he's dead from the 10min afk farm that AA made.. the 5min one he usually survives fine. Expand I'm running the afk s/l build (elect/rad tanker), w/o any deaths, as long as I *don't* the +to-hit toggles (Focused Accuracy and Tactics). Running those makes me run out of END eventually, and detoggling makes me dead. After getting the accolades, though, I have enough END, HPs, regen, and recovery to run the toggles. I'm running: Charged Armor, Static Shield, Tough, Maneuvers, Weave, Combat Jumping, Irradiated Ground, Lightning Field, Focused Accuracy, and Tactics, with Atom Smasher on auto. My IOs are boosted as the mids build shows, and I have all tier 4 incarnates. Also, I'm running in and hitting the rikti device, and then running to center and setting up the auto for farming. I usually leave it running more than 10 minutes, not out of efficiency, but basically so I can afk longer while still making inf, hehe. But the tanker survives fine until all the enemies are dead in the 10 minute map. I did have some deaths at first, not only from running out of END and detoggling, but from not running Static Shield, thinking I didn't need it. I still don't know why I need it (do the enemies hit you with end drains?), but I certainly don't die when running it. Edit: forgot to mention, I'm turning Sprint off after setting up auto. I'm only running the toggles I mentioned, plus Atom Smasher on auto. Well, and the incarnates (I hit all 4 when I set up, and if I'm bored, or have time, or whatever, I'll go in and hit them again after some time... but I can finish the map w/o doing so). Edited April 28, 2023 by Tonio
Retired Community Rep Americas Angel Posted April 29, 2023 Retired Community Rep Posted April 29, 2023 @EmpradDon't toggle on Focused Acuracy, it's a set mule.You need all your incarnates. If you're having endurance troubles, switch one of the damage procs in Atom Smasher to a Dam/End IO +5'd. @Vinyl RichieThe mobs have 0% AoE defense. 1 My Stuff: Fightclub PvP Discord (Melee PvP tournaments, builds, and beta testing) Influence Farming Guide (General guide to farming, with maps and builds)
A3r0h Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 @CR Americas Angel Thanks for the inspiration. :)) In case anyone cares, I have made an alternate version of the build for the AFK Elec/Rad Tanker.Capped S/L/E Resist Capped S/L Defense Capped Melee DefenseHighest dmg output while AFK of the listed builds at 105 effective dmg/s Atom Smasher on Auto Pros compared to the OP build +4.91 effective dmg/s per 10 targets +4 HP/s Regen Capped 49% Melee Def up from 33% Cons compared to the OP build -126 Max HP Full breakdown on the differences between the builds in the spoiler below. This build also comes free with Super Jump for movement and has at least 3 movable slots for preference, as well as vastly superior overall resistances. Reveal hidden contents DMG Lightning Field for 22.51 dmg/s and Irradiated Ground for 22.62 dmg/s for a total 45.13 dmg/s from auras per 10 targets vs. Lightning Field for 21.32 dmg/s and Irradiated Ground for 20.58 dmg/s for a total 41.9 dmg/s from auras per 10 targets for an extra 3.23 dmg/s from auras. Atom Smasher on auto for 37.42 dmg/s per 16 targets vs. Atom Smasher on auto for 36.37 dmg/s per 16 targets As Atom Smasher hits 16 targets on the Tanker vs. auras 10 and 10 for a Brutes Atom Smasher, I will time the above numbers by 1.6 to get the effective dmg/s vs. 10 targets, just so we can compare the numbers easier across the board and ATs, should anyone want. 37.42*1.6=59.87 36.37*1.6=58.19 for a extra 1.68 dmg/s from Atom Smasher. Total inc in dmg is roughly+4.91 dmg/s for 10 targets Res Resistances, though all we care about is S/L which are capped at 90% on both builds. But for an honerable mention, in case you wanna do other things:+31% F/C up to 69% +18% E up to 90% cap +55% nE up to 72.5% +64% Ps up to 63% -06% Tx down to 8% Def Defenses are pretty much the same across the board, apart from also capping Melee:+16% Melee def up to 49% and past the soft cap, up from 33% HP and Regen Here we take a small hit to max HP, for an equally small gain to HP/s: -126 HP at 2432 HP down from 2558 HP +58 Regen (4 HP/s) at 375% (~38 HP/s) up from 317% (~34 HP/s)End For End management, the builds are pretty equal. Both take advantage of the Destiny "Ageless Core Epiphany". This build has higher end use at endgame, but also has more toggles that can be turned off during the building process for slightly cheaper End.About equal Status Protection Should not play any major role in AFK farming, so just an honerable mention, in case you wanna branch out.+2mag Held +9mag KB +63.2% Held -12.5% Stun, Sleep, Immobilize, Confuse, Terrorize +42.39% Taunt, Placate (though kinda useless outside PvP I guess) Debuff protection Also not a major concern for AFK farming, so also just another honerable mention.+60% PerceptionRadius +86.5% ToHit +20% Recharge and run speed Acc Both builds hit the 95% hit cap vs. +3 enemies (+4 as soon as you pass t4 alpha). Elec-Rad 105 AFK Tanker.mxdFetching info... 2
Emprad Posted May 1, 2023 Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) On 4/29/2023 at 12:48 AM, CR Americas Angel said: @EmpradDon't toggle on Focused Acuracy, it's a set mule.You need all your incarnates. If you're having endurance troubles, switch one of the damage procs in Atom Smasher to a Dam/End IO +5'd. @Vinyl RichieThe mobs have 0% AoE defense. Expand Thank you for the reply! And for the fire farm build what's with this about keeping alpha at t3 for kb protection? I don't see anything about kb prot in its info u less I'm missing something..? Any other incarnates that need to be kept at t3? Edited May 1, 2023 by Emprad
Retired Community Rep Americas Angel Posted May 1, 2023 Retired Community Rep Posted May 1, 2023 On 5/1/2023 at 2:00 PM, Emprad said: Thank you for the reply! And for the fire farm build what's with this about keeping alpha at t3 for kb protection? I don't see anything about kb prot in its info u less I'm missing something..? Any other incarnates that need to be kept at t3? Expand Let me change that. Should say at least Tier 3. Tier 3 or Tier 4 both work. The reason why is that it provides a level shift which decreased the value of incoming KB attacks from the mobs. 2 1 My Stuff: Fightclub PvP Discord (Melee PvP tournaments, builds, and beta testing) Influence Farming Guide (General guide to farming, with maps and builds)
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