Empathy's Auras... WTF?

[Ringo]

I don't think I've ever really looked at the Empathy set since 2004.  It was just never my cup of tea, looked boring and uneventful.  Smash cut to today where I'm finally thinking, "Hey, I've done almost everything in this game - maybe I should finally give Empathy a go!"

 

Only to find out that Recovery Aura and Regeneration Aura are on EIGHT MINUTE TIMERS?!?

 

just... why?  and why does anybody play this set?

[MoonSheep]

a very high recharge time probably because it’s so powerful

 

i think it could do with being reduced a little bit though

 

empathy is still a great set when played by the right person who focuses on enhancing the powers and knowing when to use them

[Linea]

4 hours ago, MoonSheep said:

a very high recharge time probably because it’s so powerful

A pair of empaths can perma each other.  It is downright ludicrous what they can do, paired.

[Doomguide2005]

1 hour ago, Linea said:

A pair of empaths can perma each other.  It is downright ludicrous what they can do, paired.

And gets more ridiculous (like a lot of support sets) the more you group.  Empaths just push that curve fairly hard.  3+ is a whole lot more potent than 1 or 2.

 

PS:  That ~8 min cool down on a high end build can get to 30 or 40 seconds.  Buffed with further recharge, say another Empaths AB it'll push the cooldown under 20 seconds.  You'd have to really try to burn your entire end bar in 20 seconds short of powers that drain you dry when they 'crash' (for example, Elude)

 

PS 2:  At least a couple Empathy builds have solo'd a +4/×8 ITF, including one by @Linea.  

Edited September 21, 2022 by Doomguide2005

[High_Beam]

21 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said:

PS 2:  At least a couple Empathy builds have solo'd a +4/×8 ITF, including one by @Linea.  

Wow.  I can barely solo the Matthew Hashaby arc with mine 🙂

[Linea]

22 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said:

At least a couple Empathy builds have solo'd a +4/×8 ITF, including one by @Linea.  

Edited 22 hours ago by Doomguide2005

Likely many more.  

 

I did it by turning the empath into an armored offensive force.  Assume you're a corruptor first, build like that, then build on the empath secondary to make the corruptor offense stronger and/or more durable, ... And do it all on the defender frame for the better multiplier numbers and easier build manipulation and flexibility.

 

Voltak did it by leveraging the buffs and Lore on a support oriented build.  I mean you have your own army, might as well use it.  Then use standard offense in-between summons.

[Ringo]

5 minutes ago, Linea said:

Likely many more.  

 

I did it by turning the empath into an armored offensive force.  Assume you're a corruptor first, build like that, then build on the empath secondary to make the corruptor offense stronger and/or more durable, ... And do it all on the defender frame for the better multiplier numbers and easier build manipulation and flexibility.

 

Voltak did it by leveraging the buffs and Lore on a support oriented build.  I mean you have your own army, might as well use it.  Then use standard offense in-between summons.

Could you share your armored offensive empath build?  I'd love to see what you did

 

Though looking into it further - it seems that only Fortitude and Clear Mind truly benefit from being on a Defender  (at least, I don't think the difference in heal values make a huge difference in play?).  The Auras and Adrenaline Boost are equal across ATs.  Is the 30% Vigilance damage boost one of the reasons why you chose soloing a Defender instead of a Corruptor?

[Linea]

13 minutes ago, Ringo said:

Could you share your armored offensive empath build?  I'd love to see what you did

 

 

 

 

 

[Doomguide2005]

     It's worth noting (and I can't tell as I can't open Mids if any of the above builds use one in Fortitude) that Fortitude will accept and buff the user with the Gaussian's proc as far as I know.

 

And the idea of stacking the Gaussian's proc and Soul Drain is yummy to me.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Doomguide2005
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[Linea]

I don't remember if I put Guassian's in Aim or Souldrain.  It's effectively perma in Souldrain, but more flexible for malfactoring in aim.  I've done both in various builds, depending on application.

[Doomguide2005]

     Yeah that would one advantage to placement in Fortitude, exemplar.  Fortitude exemplar can be as early as 7th.  Fortitude also has a relatively short base recharge (while still at 60 sec) often accompanied by lots of global recharge.  Not sure what the max recharge is for 90% proc chances but I'm guessing you'd have a lot of uptime on a team where you're keeping it up on 6+ teammates (and/or pets).   Really missing being able to log in and test it out (and find out if I'm smoking something)