USCI Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Working on an arc now and here's my goal... At the end of the first mission, I want the player to stumble upon two bosses/EB/AVs fighting each other. I want one of the bosses to be able to teleport away when he's down to 50% instead of just running for the door (he'll show up later in the arc) while the other one is 'defeated' when he's down to a certain percentage and you need to talk to him to complete the mish. How do I do this? Thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranebump Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) You can’t. AE does not have those options. Boss dialogue can be placed in a clue that pops on the clues screen when they’re defeated, so you can simulate that. A boss can try to run from you, but if it’s a mish objective and they get away, the mish fails. No targets can TP away at all. With that in mind, why was it necessary/desirable to have them fighting each other? What will the player learn when talking to boss #2? Edited November 19, 2022 by cranebump 1 Looking for SFMA content over multiple arcs? Search for the following under "cranebump." LONG FORM: Ordinary People [3 parts] Investigation of a series of thefts leads you deep into a vengeful plot that threatens all of Paragon City. Will you and Kings Row's "ordinary" heroes be able to stop it? Leviathan [5 parts] The assassination of a local politician with national aspirations sets off a media frenzy among everyone's favorite reactionary network, NewsAnon. Among their targets? You. Mobius [5 Parts]: Visions of past, present, and possibility collide, as you and the Autumn Wards unravel the mystery of the 7-year time gap. The Cage Series [3 parts]: The Iron Widow is back! Or...is she? Your vigilante philosophy is put to the test in this tale of shifting loyalties and outright deceit. The Bleed [3 parts]: Your investigation of arcane fissures in IP leads you to uncover a 100-year old secret shrouded in magic, blood, and betrayal. Noble Mettle [2 parts]: A Sky Raider raid on the Paragon Commodities Commission turns from simple kidnapping to a complicated scheme involving mercenaries, "Communists," economics, and chemistry. Fallout (in progress). One Shots: Of Guns and Asa Ronan; The Tenuous State of Grace; Garden of the Will; Gravity; The Book of Bond's; The Lost Girls; Injustice Systems; Wednesday’s Wyverns; Of ‘Dine and Men; Dark Legacy; Shadow and Silver, The Re-education of Westin Phipps, Potter's Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCI Posted November 19, 2022 Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 The boss that teleports away is being double-crossed by the other one that collapses when down to a certain health. The boss that collapses gives out information to you on where you might be able to find the boss that teleported out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cranebump Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 So let’s say Boss A is the one that runs away. Boss B tells me where to find them. Is my goal going into the mish to pursue Boss A? Or am I after something else when I discover I need to find Boss A, and Boss B has the info I need? I ask this because the fight you’re describing seems a cosmetic decision. If so, then the objective can be achieved using other means. It may seem limiting, but the lack of being able to do anything and everything forces the storyteller to focus on what’s essential, and how to get that across in the clearest, simplest way. Looking for SFMA content over multiple arcs? Search for the following under "cranebump." LONG FORM: Ordinary People [3 parts] Investigation of a series of thefts leads you deep into a vengeful plot that threatens all of Paragon City. Will you and Kings Row's "ordinary" heroes be able to stop it? Leviathan [5 parts] The assassination of a local politician with national aspirations sets off a media frenzy among everyone's favorite reactionary network, NewsAnon. Among their targets? You. Mobius [5 Parts]: Visions of past, present, and possibility collide, as you and the Autumn Wards unravel the mystery of the 7-year time gap. The Cage Series [3 parts]: The Iron Widow is back! Or...is she? Your vigilante philosophy is put to the test in this tale of shifting loyalties and outright deceit. The Bleed [3 parts]: Your investigation of arcane fissures in IP leads you to uncover a 100-year old secret shrouded in magic, blood, and betrayal. Noble Mettle [2 parts]: A Sky Raider raid on the Paragon Commodities Commission turns from simple kidnapping to a complicated scheme involving mercenaries, "Communists," economics, and chemistry. Fallout (in progress). One Shots: Of Guns and Asa Ronan; The Tenuous State of Grace; Garden of the Will; Gravity; The Book of Bond's; The Lost Girls; Injustice Systems; Wednesday’s Wyverns; Of ‘Dine and Men; Dark Legacy; Shadow and Silver, The Re-education of Westin Phipps, Potter's Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhym Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 There's always the approach of having a mob say, "Activate Teleporter!" or something like that when defeated—lord knows official non-AE story arcs use that trick often enough (I'm looking at you, Market Crash). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerroirNoir2 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I just had a few run ins with the Goldbrickers, and I think Mr. Rodney (he could be renamed I suppose) actually uses Teleport if he gets damaged enough. However, I think it's part of him and not something you can give to another NPC. You'd have to ask @Ankylosaur since he used him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huang3721 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) On 11/19/2022 at 12:58 AM, USCI said: At the end of the first mission, I want the player to stumble upon two bosses/EB/AVs fighting each other. I want one of the bosses to be able to teleport away when he's down to 50% instead of just running for the door (he'll show up later in the arc) while the other one is 'defeated' when he's down to a certain percentage and you need to talk to him to complete the mish. Typical features in missions aren't always available in AE. Enemies can't switch to your side after taking a certain amount of damage, for example. Also, you can't set some mission details as non-optional objectives (Battles and Patrols). 11 hours ago, USCI said: The boss that teleports away is being double-crossed by the other one that collapses when down to a certain health. The boss that collapses gives out information to you on where you might be able to find the boss that teleported out. As a workaround, how about making two separate bosses? You may want to put the escaping boss in the middle part or front while the soon-to-be-defeated boss is in the back. Set the escaping boss as an optional mission, allowing players to miss the boss. The escaping boss will flee when their HP reaches 50%. As TerrorNoir has suggested, use critters with teleport abilities. Write something about using their emergency teleporter in their defeat dialogue, just in case players defeat them. You can also hint that a battle has occurred recently or the betrayal in the starting dialogue. The soon-to-be-defeated boss will say something about the previous offscreen battle. ("You can't run away from me, Escaping Boss!") This boss will talk using defeat dialogue and give a clue to find the escaping boss. Set this boss as the primary objective. Edited November 20, 2022 by huang3721 additional info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCI Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 Hey, thanks for the ideas! I think I may know a way to modify what I want to have done. FYI, the person enters the mish knowing that they are going to fight a certain villain group and that they might find Boss B there (the one that collapses and you have to talk to). Boss A is a surprise and then becomes the focus of the story arc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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