Blackmoor Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) [Lol, I just noticed that I misspelled the title.] I've heard so many great things about this combo over the years, and I'm finally ready to give it a go. I just can't decide on which AT to go with. I mostly prefer to run TFs/SFs, so this would be a team player, not a solo or PvP toon. Let me break down my perceptions and preferences as they stand: Stalker - Most of the glowing praise I've heard about this combo pertains to Stalkers. I've heard that the two awesomesauce AoEs don't break stealth, and that the resulting damage is insane! The problem is, I'm not particularly interested in running this combo as a stealth toon. It doesn't fit particularly well with the character concept I envision or the playstyle I'm aiming for with this particular combo. That said, I'm not discounting it outright based on the constant hype. Tanker - I'm leaning more towards Tanker than anything else. Melee is the role I play the least in this game, so I haven't really witnessed the new changes to the AT firsthand. I love tanking in MMOs in general, so building and playing a tank isn't a problem for me. But I do want a ton of DPS in addition to the survivability. Is the damage noticeably lackluster compared to other ATs? Does anyone else sing Shield/Ele's praises? Did anyone else find themselves disappointed with it? Scrapper - I've taken the other three ATs to 50, but I've only ever had a single Scrapper(a Dark/Dark back on Live that fell by the wayside around 35 or so). How does Ele/Shield's damage output compare to the Stalker version? Is it an egregious paper tiger as compared to Shield/Ele or the Brute version? I'd be interested in giving Scrappers a second chance, but I always feel as though they're outclassed by other ATs. Could they be the Sweet Spot of non-stealth DPS that I'm looking for? Brute - I've run a few over the years, but I'm starting to pine for other options. I run a ton of Dominators, so I'm looking to get away from the constant "Gogogogogogogo" mechanic. That said, I can see how they might also provide that Sweet Spot of DPS and survivability for me. Although I'm leaning "No" on Brutes, I'm open to any convincing arguments in their favor. Any testimonials? Is the Stalker DPS so OP that I'd be a fool to roll otherwise? Can the Scrapper version deliver the goods? Can the Tanker fight its way out of a paper bag? Charge in here and turn this thread into a Lightning Rod of controversy! Edited January 28 by Blackmoor
MoisesG Posted January 28 Posted January 28 i vote Stalker cus LR crit from hide while not breaking hide is sexy, plus all of the crits. followed closely by Scrapper with the ATOs slotted is also amazing, 1 1
arcane Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Stalker is the best choice because your ST damage will suck otherwise. 1 1
Blackmoor Posted January 28 Author Posted January 28 Thanks for your replies. I'm probably going to roll Stalker based on everything I'm hearing. Electric Melee isn't considered particularly good DPS by the pro Tankers, and looking around the Scrapper forum I'm seeing "better on a Stalker".
mistagoat Posted February 1 Posted February 1 My order: Stalker Scrapper Tank Brute Scrapper is probably my favorite but I think my Stalker outpaces him. Bottom line, you can't make a bad choice here! 2 SCRAPPER: Sir Kit Breaker-Elec/Shield *DumDum Pounder-WM/Shield *Snoglobe-Claws/Ice *Ice Flow Joe-Axe/Ice *TANK: Gamma Goon-Rad/Rad *Bernjamin Tanklin-fire/claws *Skullgrin Von Killjoy-Invul/SS *Frozen Snowshoo-Ice/Ice Quarry Goon-Stone/SS *BRUTE: Megahertz Donut-EM/Shield *Ohm Ahgerd Stone/Elec *Shadow Goon-Dark/Dark *Devilaint Le'Z-Rad/Fire *STALKER: Double OHM 7-EM/EA *Sir Kit Interupt-Elec/Shield *TROLLER: Chilly Lilly-Ice/Rad *Chlorophyllis Vance-Plant/Storm *Mechamoo-Elec/Cold *Johnny Burnsalot-Fire/Kin *Countess Gone-Ill/Dark *Lady Gone-Dark/Dark *Calpernia Tomik-Ill/Rad *Porkchop Scallywag-Fire/Nat *Gone Daddy-Plant/Dark *Merrie Melody-Symp/Dark *Toot Sweet-Fire/Dark *Lord Gone-Grav/Dark *Misty Burnsalot-Fire/Storm *Maddie Burnsalot-Fire/Rad *DOM: Scorched Eartha-Earth/Fire *Gazebo Malarkey-Dark/Psi *Clawsin Bloom-Plant/Savage *Diatomaceous Earl-Plant/Thorn *Permafrostasha-Plant/Ice *Corn Cob Earth/Earth *MM: Stupid Robot-Bot/Elec *Dark Leader-Demons/Dark *Silas Greenback-Thugs/Time *FENDER: *Dr. Gone-Dark/Dark *BAG3L-FF/Sonic *BLASTER: PinPointress-Arch/TA *Shimmy Burnsalot-Fire/TA *Lil Beefy-Ice/Fire *H0TT-fire/fire *CORRUPTOR: Shady Burnsalot-Fire/Dark *Kinetic Koala-Ice/Kin *Atmospheric Hazel-Water/Storm *Hami Dum-Seismic/Nature *MiHami Heat-Fire/Nature *SOA *Big Gravy-Crabbermind *Sentinel: NP Seymour-Elec/Regen
StarseedWarrior Posted February 2 Posted February 2 On 1/28/2024 at 3:18 PM, Blackmoor said: Thanks for your replies. I'm probably going to roll Stalker based on everything I'm hearing. Electric Melee isn't considered particularly good DPS by the pro Tankers, and looking around the Scrapper forum I'm seeing "better on a Stalker". You could go blapper if you want they can pick from a few melee attacks. 1
Blackmoor Posted February 4 Author Posted February 4 I currently have my Stalker up to 26, and I'm loving it so far. The hype machine was right, it's a really fun combo. I now understand the reason why everyone says to go Stalker- Assassin's Strike is super useful in order to have a worthwhile single target attack chain. I only have Lightning Rod and Thunder Strike atm, so I really haven't seen the AoE potential yet. But I can easily see this toon making it to 50. I'm going to start looking at some builds. On 2/2/2024 at 2:02 PM, StarseedWarrior said: You could go blapper if you want they can pick from a few melee attacks. My first 50 blueside was an E3 Blaster. You're right, they make excellent blappers with tons of AoE. Highly recommended. 1
Clave Dark 5 Posted February 6 Posted February 6 My build was a Sav/Melee, and it's not super-optimized, but I dunno, maybe it'll give you some ideas: Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
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