Speed Freak Posted April 30 Posted April 30 I've spent probably 12 hours building this character, with continuous reference to this forum and it's posters (thanks guys!) and I think I have a character I'd like to play. Problem is, defensively he's...lacking. His actual Defense stats are okay..ish? His resistances are donkey vomit. Any help you folks could give would be GREATLY appreciated. Professor Hasenpfuss - Hero ControllerBuild plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.6.6 rev. 3 ──────────────────────────────Primary powerset: Arsenal ControlSecondary powerset: TrapsPool powerset (#1): TeleportationPool powerset (#2): LeadershipPool powerset (#3): FightingPool powerset (#4): SpeedEpic powerset: Psionic Mastery ────────────────────────────── Powers taken: Level 1: Cryo Freeze RayA: Basilisk's Gaze: Accuracy/Hold11: Basilisk's Gaze: Recharge/Hold15: Basilisk's Gaze: Accuracy/Recharge17: Basilisk's Gaze: Endurance/Recharge/Hold17: Ghost Widow's Embrace: Chance of Damage(Psionic)19: Neuronic Shutdown: Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 1: CaltropsA: Ragnarok: Chance for Knockdown3: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)3: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage5: Javelin Volley: Damage/Endurance/Recharge5: Javelin Volley: Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech Level 2: Sleep GrenadeA: Induced Coma: Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge40: Induced Coma: Accuracy/Recharge Level 4: TeleportA: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 6: Liquid NitrogenA: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)7: Positron's Blast: Accuracy/Damage7: Positron's Blast: Damage/Endurance9: Positron's Blast: Damage/Recharge9: Positron's Blast: Damage/Range11: Annihilation: Chance for Res Debuff Level 8: Cloaking DeviceA: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 10: ManeuversA: Karma: Defense/Endurance36: Karma: Defense/Recharge40: Serendipity: Defense/Endurance46: Serendipity: Defense/Recharge Level 12: Acid MortarA: Shield Breaker: Chance for Lethal Damage13: Shield Breaker: Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge13: Achilles' Heel: Chance for Res Debuff15: Touch of Lady Grey: Chance for Negative Damage Level 14: BoxingA: Kinetic Combat: Knockdown Bonus Level 16: Smoke CanisterA: Superior Overpowering Presence: Accuracy/Control Duration37: Superior Overpowering Presence: Control Duration/RechargeTime37: Superior Overpowering Presence: Endurance/RechargeTime37: Superior Overpowering Presence: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance39: Superior Overpowering Presence: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/RechargeTime39: Superior Overpowering Presence: RechargeTime/Energy Font Level 18: HastenA: Invention: Recharge Reduction19: Invention: Recharge Reduction Level 20: Force Field GeneratorA: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed21: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage21: Reactive Defenses: Defense40: Reactive Defenses: Defense/Endurance Level 22: Flash BangA: Superior Will of the Controller: Accuracy/Control Duration23: Superior Will of the Controller: Control Duration/Recharge23: Superior Will of the Controller: Endurance/Recharge34: Superior Will of the Controller: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance34: Superior Will of the Controller: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge36: Superior Will of the Controller: Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage Level 24: Poison TrapA: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge25: Unbreakable Constraint: Chance for Smashing Damage25: Gladiator's Net: Chance of Damage(Lethal)27: Ghost Widow's Embrace: Chance of Damage(Psionic)27: Neuronic Shutdown: Chance of Damage(Psionic)29: Lockdown: Chance for +2 Mag Hold Level 26: Tear GasA: Gladiator's Net: Chance of Damage(Lethal)29: Ghost Widow's Embrace: Chance of Damage(Psionic)31: Neuronic Shutdown: Chance of Damage(Psionic)31: Lockdown: Chance for +2 Mag Hold31: Basilisk's Gaze: Recharge/Hold33: Basilisk's Gaze: Chance for Recharge Slow Level 28: Teleport TargetA: Winter's Gift: Slow Resistance (20%) Level 30: Tri-CannonA: Expedient Reinforcement: Resist Bonus Aura for Pets33: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage33: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge34: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Recharge Level 32: Trip MineA: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge42: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage45: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy46: Armageddon: Recharge/Accuracy46: Armageddon: Damage/Endurance Level 35: Triage BeaconA: Preventive Medicine: Heal36: Preventive Medicine: Heal/Endurance42: Preventive Medicine: Endurance/RechargeTime43: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime43: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance45: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb Level 38: Fold SpaceA: Invention: Accuracy39: Invention: Accuracy Level 41: ToughA: Aegis: Resistance45: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance48: Aegis: Resistance/Recharge Level 44: Indomitable WillA: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 47: Time BombA: Obliteration: Accuracy/Recharge48: Obliteration: Damage/Recharge48: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge50: Obliteration: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge50: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage Level 49: WeaveA: Shield Wall: Endurance/Recharge50: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance/Recharge ────────────────────────────── Inherents: Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl(Empty) Level 1: Sprint(Empty) Level 2: Rest(Empty) Level 1: Swift(Empty) Level 1: Hurdle(Empty) Level 1: HealthA: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance42: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 1: StaminaA: Performance Shifter: EndMod43: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End ──────────────────────────────Stats Breakdown: - Defense - Smashing:26.52%Lethal:26.52%Fire:29.65%Cold:29.65%Energy:39.02%Negative:39.02%Toxic:26.52%Psionic:52.61%Melee:26.52%Ranged:36.52%AoE:28.08%- Resistance - Smashing:38.12%Lethal:38.12%Fire:14.25%Cold:14.25%Energy:4.5%Negative:4.5%Toxic:3%Psionic:3% Professor Hasenpfuss - Controller (Arsenal Control - Traps).mbd
EnjoyTheJourney Posted May 1 Posted May 1 (edited) Here's a revised build. The main goals were better defenses, better recharge, and a way to fairly reliably get containment (the immobilize in place of caltrops). Some damage procs were sacrificed along the way. But, more recharge means more availability for some powers that still have damage procs. On the other hand, in this build there is psi nado, which recharges about every 5.5 seconds or thereabouts. It has a +recharge proc IO, it helps to keep mobs in patches on the ground, and it contributes to damage. Caltrops were removed because they work against keeping mobs grouped up, which arsenal control really benefits from having happen. The "knockback to knockdown" IO was put into trip mine to keep mobs on patches, as well. That means enemies don't get knocked out of range of control patches when you bring them in with fold space. And, many teammates will definitely appreciate the presence of the KB to KD IO. The miracle +recovery IO offers a better return than an extra slot in stamina, hence that change. The extra resistance IO in the pet should make him noticeably tougher. It's not a perfect build. But, hopefully you find some interesting and helpful ideas when looking it over. Professor Hasenpfuss - Controller (Arsenal Control - Traps).mbd Edited May 1 by EnjoyTheJourney 1
Speed Freak Posted May 1 Author Posted May 1 Thank you so much EnjoyTheJourney! I've been playing my version of the build for a few hours today and must say I really enjoy the playstyle and was really hoping someone would be able to help. You provide and how.
Onlyasandwich Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Journey's build hits some good totals, but it's worth noting that end management will not be sustainable. This would be viable if you're okay relying on ageless and only working 50+ content. I'd recommend stepping back and not stressing too much about maximizing defense and resist. Fighting Pool is a tough sell for end sustainability. You may find more success with: Getting as close to Ranged Softcap as possible, but don't make big sacrifices to get there. 35+ is pretty good, and will be supplemented by debuffs. Epic resist armor. This gives you a meaty layer even without Tough. Embracing your diverse tools. Seekers have a hefty tohit-debuff, and make a great alternate opener when Flash Bang is down. This and/or Smoke Canister can make up the difference to softcaps. Tear Gas is one of the best aoe holds around. It's persistent, can be thrown from behind walls, and comes with a healthy damage debuff. Tranq isn't an easy skip on a controller. It's a pretty decent blast, shuts down problem bosses and even AVs in one shot for a breather when needed, and the sleep, even when interrupted, messes with mob AI such that their attack chains are very noticeably disrupted. You have a lot of great things you can splort out of that gun - use them aggressively! 1
EnjoyTheJourney Posted May 2 Posted May 2 A few things aren't clarified in the attached build further up. First, the passive accolades are a good pickup and that brings endurance recovery to slightly over 3 per second, with that extra 10 endurance. Second, a reasonable pickup for this build could be agility core alpha, which brings endurance recovery to 3.4 per second. The build isn't heavily dependent on procs for damage and better power availability helps to offset that anyways for powers that have low enough recharge to have proc damage fall as a result of taking agility. Then defense totals look even better, as well. If there was something to be concerned about for both the original build and the alternative build it would be the lack of a single target attack chain. Didn't want to mess with the original build too much, though, as fitting in the sorcery pool really changes the look and feel of the build. Also, might need to remove the teleport pool to create enough room for sorcery. But, the teleport pool seems like the heart of the original build in some ways and if this is a teaming build then either the original build or the alternative build would still probably be fairly team friendly even without a single target attack chain. Despite the occasional remark on the forums about endurance problems associated with running the fighting pool, it is more usually the case that a relatively low level of endurance reduction in "clicky" powers causes endurance burn to run ahead of endurance recovery. A few tweaks to endurance reduction were made to "clicky" powers in the attached build to help with that. Also swapped in a defense / endurance shield wall IO in weave for the originally present defense shield wall IO. Professor Hasenpfuss - Controller (Arsenal Control - Traps).mbd 1 1
EnjoyTheJourney Posted May 3 Posted May 3 (edited) Hopefully this isn't "too much" and I'll leave this thread to others, after this. But, another revision is attached that focuses on improving single target damage for taking on hard targets. That seems like something that could usefully be improved. Dropping maneuvers reduces team buffs. In exchange, endurance management becomes easier and arcane bolt helps to take single target damage to a better place. With poison trap flattening regen for hard targets, with double acid mortars out, and with the tri-gun having damage boosted at least a bit more in this latest build, soloing harder targets becomes easier. No speed records for taking down hard targets would be broken by this build. But, it should at least be possible to solo a wide array of hard targets with this build. One thing to ponder is when to take the latter two powers in the teleport pool and when to take the fighting pool. The attached build opts for fold space earlier. But, if defenses feel a bit too weak then the fighting pool can be taken earlier and the final two teleport powers could be taken at levels 47 and 49. Personally, the teleport powers look like they're more fun and more team-friendly, and so I'd prefer to take them earlier. Either choice would be reasonable, though. With this I'll bow out of this thread. Good luck to the OP, however they decide to move forward. PS: Most (and perhaps all) sleep powers are auto-hit. But, perhaps the rules are a bit different for sleep grenade. If accuracy is needed then, of course, that takes priority over the proc. Professor Hasenpfuss - Controller (Arsenal Control - Traps - Psi Mastery),v2.mbd Edited May 3 by EnjoyTheJourney 1
KC4800 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 I dunno. I think you worry too much about resistances. Ars/Traps is all about not getting hit, because everyone is vomiting, meaning held helplessly, and when they can fire they target the tri-cannon and not you. Yes, there are rare instances, namely when multiple ambushes seem to target you first, but that's more about the way the mission is designed and not the build. Get your invisibility up to superior, amp up your hold times by splitting up the Archtype Superior enhancers into 3 and 3, and 2 and 2 and 2. Lead with the confuse then the Nitrogen Patch. Then poison the F out of them and let the Tri-Cannon do its job. This combination just melts foes and you should never be getting hit at all. Fighting Pool?? Seriously? 1 Victory: reserved for future use Indom: Schtick, Pummel Pete, Plymouth, Pilkington Reunion: Ghost Legacy, 7s7e7v7e7n7, Mind Funk, Bluto Excelsior: Phrendon Largo, Fred Bumbler, John van der Waals,Allamedia Jones, Tzapt, Sn1pe Torchbearer: Phrendon Largo, Kenny Letter, Bewm, La Merle, Enflambe', Rock Largo, Bulk of the Weather, Retired Phrendon Everlasting: Phrendon Largo, Krown, Buzz Words, Bicycle Repairman, Dee Fender, Carmela Soprano, Radmental Boy, Beet Salad, Sporanghi,Sue Ahn Cuddy, Fukushima Technician, Snow Globe Girl, Thug Therapist, Apple Brown Betty
Speed Freak Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 EnjoyTheJourney, thank you again for your replies and builds. They are well thought out and took my preferences into account. 1
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