Savage / Dark / Dark advice, please

[Samyrmancer]

I've been trying to make a melee character for the last few weeks but she needs to inspire me. I made both a tank and brute spines/dark and while they were cool, I never went anywhere with it, probably because I'm not much of a farmer. So, please tell me if this would be reasonable or if I should look at something else.

 

I would like to be able to, sorta tank, and do decent damage. I only group, never farm, and so want to be able to run around without having to constantly rest. I can afford orange sets at 50 and will work up from there.

 

I see this character as activating death shroud and defenses and savage leaping into combat. I would like to keep cloak of fear up to limit getting hit back while using Rending Fury, Shred and Dark Obliteration to tear into masses or Darkest Night, Maiming and Vicious Slash to attack bosses. I'm not a huge fan of super speed, but will figure something out.

 

I am concerned that I have enough defense to have fun. I am also concerned that some people on the forums don't seem to like Savage Melee. I have considered dropping some of the powers below to take Provoke, Intimidate, Invoke Panic and Unrelenting from the Presence pool to maximize using fear but am afraid that might be a one trick pony. I'm leaving out slots/enh because I just want to hear what you think of the concept.

 

I am open to any reasonable change, and/or switching skill sets altogether, if I can keep my character concept.

 

Thank you in advance.

 

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Level 49 Magic Brute

Primary Power Set: Savage Melee

Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor

Power Pool: Speed

Power Pool: Fighting

Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

 

Villain Profile:

Level 1: Maiming Slash -- Empty(A)

Level 1: Dark Embrace -- Empty(A)

Level 2: Shred -- Empty(A)

Level 4: Death Shroud -- Empty(A)

Level 6: Murky Cloud -- Empty(A)

Level 8: Vicious Slash -- Empty(A)

Level 10: Obsidian Shield -- Empty(A)

Level 12: Taunt -- Empty(A)

Level 14: Hasten -- Empty(A)

Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Empty(A)

Level 18: Rending Flurry -- Empty(A)

Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- Empty(A)

Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)

Level 24: Tough -- Empty(A)

Level 26: Weave -- Empty(A)

Level 28: Cloak of Fear -- Empty(A)

Level 30: Super Speed -- Empty(A)

Level 32: Savage Leap -- Empty(A)

Level 35: Oppressive Gloom -- Empty(A)

Level 38: Soul Transfer -- Empty(A)

Level 41: Soul Tentacles -- Empty(A)

Level 44: Darkest Night -- Empty(A)

Level 47: Dark Obliteration -- Empty(A)

Level 49: Blood Thirst -- Empty(A)

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[Ankhammon]

I've been working one of these myself. What the Savage Naysayers aren't aware of is how well this plays with Dark Armor. The BU mechanic for Savage is giving you a huge end discount which is a blessing for end hungry DA.

I like savage myself, it gives extra pts of damage, the aforementioned end discount and a rech. bonus (I think).

The early cone, Shred, is about like Sands of Mu so a little movement and you get multiple targets. I can easily get 3 and sometimes 4 with it.

I think the larger (uses BU charge) pbaoe, Rending Flurry, will actually be a good proc haven cuz it's damage is small at first look. I presume it gets damage increase with the aoe increase.

The tier 9 is a low recharge TP/PBAOE which is always fun. That should help set up your cloak of fear too. And your stealth helps set up the charge... all sortsa synergy.

All of this will allow you to much more easily work on getting your D levels up as you don't have to really work as much on end discounts and the like. I'd still use your Theft of Essence +end in regen though.

 

 

 

[StoneColdJoker]

Any updated build for this?

[Darkir]

5 hours ago, StoneColdJoker said:

Any updated build for this?

I made one for you. So you have softcapped melee defense with cloak of fear running (even against +3s as they will resist about 33-40% of it). You also have perma hasten and pretty good resistance to all. 168% global recharge.

 

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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Savage Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Savage Strike -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Hct-Dmg(39), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(7)
Level 2: Maiming Slash -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(43)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(43)
Level 6: Blood Thirst -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 8: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 10: Vicious Slash -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(50)
Level 12: Obsidian Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(17)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(17), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal(34), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 18: Rending Flurry -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(19), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Arm-Dam%(23)
Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(21), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Rct-ResDam%(45), Ksm-ToHit+(46)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(27)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29)
Level 30: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Savage Leap -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-%Dam(33), Erd-%Dam(33), ScrDrv-Dam%(33), PrfZng-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34)
Level 35: Cloak of Fear -- GlmoftheA-Acc/Rchg(A), GlmoftheA-EndRdx/Fear(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/EndRdx(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/Fear/Rchg(36), GlmoftheA-Dam%(45)
Level 38: Soul Transfer -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 41: Char -- UnbCns-Hold(A), UnbCns-Hold/Rchg(42), UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg(42), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold(42), UnbCns-Dam%(46)
Level 44: Melt Armor -- AnlWkn-Acc/Rchg(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(45)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Rgn-Knock%(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(11)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(7)
Level 1: Blood Frenzy 
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 0: Marshal 
Level 0: Invader 
Level 0: High Pain Threshold 
Level 0: Born In Battle 
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[StoneColdJoker]

Holy crap. Thanks, @Darkir!

[DemonSeed]

@Darkir How exactly do you deal with the insane end drain on that one though lol.

[Darkir]

4 hours ago, DemonSeed said:

@Darkir How exactly do you deal with the insane end drain on that one though lol.

Yeah, so this is a 50 build for sure. I get the accolades and then I use ageless. I wish I had a better answer, but the only other thing to do is switch out pyre mastery for energy mastery like this:

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Savage Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Savage Strike -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Hct-Dmg(39), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(7)
Level 2: Maiming Slash -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(43)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(43)
Level 6: Blood Thirst -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 8: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 10: Vicious Slash -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(50)
Level 12: Obsidian Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(17)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(17), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal(34), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 18: Rending Flurry -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(19), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Arm-Dam%(23)
Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(21), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Rct-ResDam%(45), Ksm-ToHit+(46)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(27)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29)
Level 30: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Savage Leap -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-%Dam(33), Erd-%Dam(33), ScrDrv-Dam%(33), PrfZng-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34)
Level 35: Cloak of Fear -- GlmoftheA-Acc/Rchg(A), GlmoftheA-EndRdx/Fear(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/EndRdx(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/Fear/Rchg(36), GlmoftheA-Dam%(45)
Level 38: Soul Transfer -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 41: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(42)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(45), PwrTrns-+Heal(46)
Level 47: Oppressive Gloom -- AbsAmz-Stun(A), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(48), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(48), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(48), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(11), Mrc-Rcvry+(42)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(7), PwrTrns-+Heal(42)
Level 1: Blood Frenzy 
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 0: Marshal 
Level 0: Invader 
Level 0: High Pain Threshold 
Level 0: Born In Battle 
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Now you do get a lot more healing procs this way but you lose melt armor and fireball, but you gain oppressive gloom. Overall this is much more survivable because you have 3 passive 5% heal procs running which I think will end up being around 20 HP/s total (at 3.5 ppm, I think the heal is 3.5 or 3 ppm).

[DemonSeed]

9 hours ago, Darkir said:

Yeah, so this is a 50 build for sure. I get the accolades and then I use ageless. I wish I had a better answer, but the only other thing to do is switch out pyre mastery for energy mastery like this:

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Savage Melee
Secondary Power Set: Dark Armor
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Savage Strike -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Hct-Dmg(39), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Hct-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(3), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(7)
Level 2: Maiming Slash -- SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprUnrFur-Dmg/Rchg(5), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprUnrFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprUnrFur-Rchg/+Regen/+End(43)
Level 4: Death Shroud -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(43)
Level 6: Blood Thirst -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)
Level 8: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(9), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(9), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 10: Vicious Slash -- SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(50)
Level 12: Obsidian Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(17)
Level 16: Dark Regeneration -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(17), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal(34), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 18: Rending Flurry -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(19), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(23), Arm-Dam%(23)
Level 20: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(21), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), Rct-ResDam%(45), Ksm-ToHit+(46)
Level 22: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(27), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(27)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(29)
Level 30: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 32: Savage Leap -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-%Dam(33), Erd-%Dam(33), ScrDrv-Dam%(33), PrfZng-Dam%(34), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(34)
Level 35: Cloak of Fear -- GlmoftheA-Acc/Rchg(A), GlmoftheA-EndRdx/Fear(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/EndRdx(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/Fear/Rchg(36), GlmoftheA-Dam%(45)
Level 38: Soul Transfer -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 41: Superior Conditioning -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(42)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(45), PwrTrns-+Heal(46)
Level 47: Oppressive Gloom -- AbsAmz-Stun(A), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(48), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(48), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(48), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(50)
Level 49: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury 
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(11), Mrc-Rcvry+(42)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(7), PwrTrns-+Heal(42)
Level 1: Blood Frenzy 
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
Level 0: Marshal 
Level 0: Invader 
Level 0: High Pain Threshold 
Level 0: Born In Battle 
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Now you do get a lot more healing procs this way but you lose melt armor and fireball, but you gain oppressive gloom. Overall this is much more survivable because you have 3 passive 5% heal procs running which I think will end up being around 20 HP/s total (at 3.5 ppm, I think the heal is 3.5 or 3 ppm).

Thank you I’ll check it out :D. Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that I used the build on a scrapper instead of a brute? Also the end is do-able if you arn’t using nonstop attacks (like in a fire farm) so the ageless trick should work fine. 

[Darkir]

12 minutes ago, DemonSeed said:

Thank you I’ll check it out :D. Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that I used the build on a scrapper instead of a brute? Also the end is do-able if you arn’t using nonstop attacks (like in a fire farm) so the ageless trick should work fine. 

No, the build was designed as a 50 build and so I didn't worry too much about endurance as you can always fix those with incarnates. The differences between brute and scrapper for this build would be small in terms of endurance usage, there are probably some different things you could do to make the slotting efficiency for a scrapper specifically better.

[DemonSeed]

@Darkir Im using it on a 50. What incarnates did you use other than Agility which may be the problem since i'm currently using musculature. 

[Darkir]

On 10/17/2020 at 12:48 AM, DemonSeed said:

@Darkir Im using it on a 50. What incarnates did you use other than Agility which may be the problem since i'm currently using musculature. 

Use Agility core as musculature doesn't help brutes as much as stalkers and scrappers due to fury. Also use the ageless core destiny and all end problems should be solved.

[Glowman]

@Darkirdo the savage stacks help with the end drain much?

[Darkir]

17 hours ago, Zer0 Hour said:

@Darkirdo the savage stacks help with the end drain much?

They help, but not enough to solve all issues.

 

Edit: I should note that they help enough that you can actually notice the difference as you build stacks. Especially at lower levels I avoid using the spenders sometimes to conserve end.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Darkir