crabion Posted July 15, 2019 Posted July 15, 2019 Thoughts on this pairing, yay or nay? If you have a build, please post. I'd like to get an idea of what I'm looking at.
Call Me Awesome Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 Both are capable sets and should work quite well together. My experience with Ice is somewhat limited as I only played one Ice tanker to around 45 on Live right before shutdown but I'm completely familiar with Stone Melee and it offers a lot of soft control with it's knockdowns, the Stun in Fault and the MAG 4 (Yes, 4) hold in Seismic Smash. The only downside to Stone Melee is that it's fairly end heavy and that can be an issue before your build matures. Guardian Survivor, occasional tanker and player of most AT's. Guides: Invulnerability Tankers, The first 20 levels. Invulnerability Tankers Soft Cap defense Spoiler
ryuplaneswalker Posted July 16, 2019 Posted July 16, 2019 I had one on live, it was good, I recall Ice Armor getting a buff at some point so that it had an endurance boosting power somewhere that should help with Stone Melee's endurance costs.
Hyperstrike Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Tanker Primary Power Set: Ice Armor Secondary Power Set: Stone Melee Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile: Level 1: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(3), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(3) Level 1: Stone Fist -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(43), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc:50(45) Level 2: Hoarfrost -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux:50(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg:50(11), Pnc-Heal/Rchg:50(11), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg:50(27), Pnc-Heal:50(45) Level 4: Heavy Mallet -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(5), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%:50(9) Level 6: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow:50(A) Level 8: Wet Ice -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(9) Level 10: Taunt -- MckBrt-Taunt:50(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg:50(34), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(37), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg:50(40), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng:50(42), MckBrt-Rchg:50(42) Level 12: Permafrost -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(13), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(13), UnbGrd-Max HP%:50(21), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(21) Level 14: Icicles -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg:50(15), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(15), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb:50(19) Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(A) Level 18: Glacial Armor -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(19) Level 20: Fault -- FrcFdb-Dmg/KB:50(A), FrcFdb-Acc/KB:50(45), FrcFdb-Rchg/KB:50(46), FrcFdb-Rchg/EndRdx:50(46), FrcFdb-Dmg/EndRdx/KB:50(46), FrcFdb-Rechg%:50(48) Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam:50(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(23), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(25), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(27) Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(25) Level 26: Energy Absorption -- PrfShf-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc:50(33), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(34), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc:50(34), LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(50) Level 28: Hurl Boulder -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg:50(29), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(29), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(31), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(31), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc:50(33) Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(31) Level 32: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(33) Level 35: Tremor -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(36), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(37), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc:50(37) Level 38: Seismic Smash -- SprEnt-Acc/Hold:50(A), SprEnt-Hold/Rchg:50(39), SprEnt-End/Rchg:50(39), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End:50(39), SprEnt-Acc/Hold/End/Rchg:50(40), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc:50(40) Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I:50(A) Level 44: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(50) Level 47: [Empty] Level 49: [Empty] Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A) Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A) Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(48), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(48) Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A) Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(50) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1413;650;1300;HEX;| |78DA6593C94F535114C6EF6B5FC542B18C6D110A6528508A45D4BD318246A50909C| |66DD3C0B5544ADBB42C64270A0E1B8388BA51D19DE2F037382E344E2BC7BFC161A1| |71D8D4C3FB3E8AF1BDA4FDBDF7DD7BCFF9CEB9F7C68F0F79EEEF9FDBAD0CCFDE4CB| 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If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
x7urnp1ke Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Thoughts on this pairing, yay or nay? If you have a build, please post. I'd like to get an idea of what I'm looking at. My favorite! This was my main back in the day and I'm rebuilding her now. You'll use a lot of End early game but it gets better, just be aware. It has some satisfying burst damage and tosses enemies around with the Stone melee set. The Ice Armor is a defensive set instead of resistance like most and has great taunting capabilities with Chilling Embrace and Icicles. Feral Tundra - Ice/Stone Tanker
cprice Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/16/2019 at 9:31 PM, Hyperstrike said: Nice medium-to-hard control. So I see you've been posting this build a few places on the forum. I'm an Ice/Kat tank. At times I feel pretty good and other I feel downright bad. How does your build operate on ALL content? I thought I had a solid build since I run ITF +4/8 with no issue, but when I fought Banished Pantheon in Dark Astoria mission arcs, they handed my a** to me if a support isn't on their game. I like ice/ tanks, but I don't want it to be a build where I have to seriously analyze the enemy and then say "What guys, let me grab an ult that can deal with this better."
Hyperstrike Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, cprice said: So I see you've been posting this build a few places on the forum. I'm an Ice/Kat tank. At times I feel pretty good and other I feel downright bad. How does your build operate on ALL content? I thought I had a solid build since I run ITF +4/8 with no issue, but when I fought Banished Pantheon in Dark Astoria mission arcs, they handed my a** to me if a support isn't on their game. I like ice/ tanks, but I don't want it to be a build where I have to seriously analyze the enemy and then say "What guys, let me grab an ult that can deal with this better." BP is ALWAYS going to be a problem. As they're tossing MASSIVE debuffs of all sorts. For pretty much everything else, it's a decent brick. If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
cprice Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, Hyperstrike said: BP is ALWAYS going to be a problem. As they're tossing MASSIVE debuffs of all sorts. For pretty much everything else, it's a decent brick. That makes sense then lol. They gave me the business lol. Is this where you extra Defense% comes into play with hedging for defense debuffs?
Hyperstrike Posted July 24, 2019 Posted July 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, cprice said: That makes sense then lol. They gave me the business lol. Is this where you extra Defense% comes into play with hedging for defense debuffs? Yeah. Went in on Hyperstrike and got myself raped that first time... If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!
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