WitchofDread

Yeah I'm sure. Fire is obviously top end dmg but just not my style.

So i have put together the following build: 38.8% ranged def - less than desirable! 75 S/L res - pretty good. 5.2s off perma hasten so with ageless it should be all good. End is tight without ageless as well! If i drop Voltaic and take maneuvers, ranged def goes to 43% - which is better? This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Magic Corruptor Primary Power Set: Electrical Blast Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery Villain Profile: ------------ Level 1: Lightning Bolt (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (5) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (5) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance (7) Panacea - Heal/Endurance (7) Panacea - Heal (9) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge (9) Panacea - Heal/Recharge (11) Accuracy IO Level 2: Ball Lightning (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (11) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (13) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (13) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (15) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 4: Tar Patch (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 6: Short Circuit (A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (17) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance (17) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge (19) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (19) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy (21) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff Level 8: Charge Up (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up Level 10: Darkest Night D-Sync Origin:D-Sync Marginalization Level 12: Zapp (A) Sting of the Manticore - Chance of Damage(Toxic) (21) Sting of the Manticore - Accuracy/Damage (23) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (23) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Endurance (25) Sting of the Manticore - Accuracy/Interrupt/Range (25) Gladiator's Javelin - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 14: Howling Twilight (A) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (27) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage (27) Reactive Defenses - Defense (29) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 18: Tesla Cage (A) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage (29) Superior Scourging Blast - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime (31) Superior Scourging Blast - RechargeTime/PBAoE +End (31) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage (31) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (33) Gladiator's Net - Chance of Damage(Lethal) Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (33) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage (33) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (34) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (34) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge Level 22: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (34) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) Level 24: Fly (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance (36) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 26: Voltaic Sentinel (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge Level 28: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (37) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Kick (A) Empty Level 32: Thunderous Blast (A) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage (37) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Recharge (39) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Damage/Endurance/Recharge (39) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (40) Superior Malice of the Corruptor - Recharge/Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 35: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (40) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (40) Titanium Coating - Resistance (42) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance (42) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 38: Dark Servant (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (42) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (43) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (43) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (45) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 41: Dark Consumption (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (45) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge Level 44: Dark Embrace (A) Aegis - Resistance (45) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance (46) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge (46) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance Level 47: Soul Drain (A) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (48) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (48) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage (48) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (50) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 49: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (50) Red Fortune - Defense (50) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance Level 1: Scourge Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 1: Swift (A) Empty Level 1: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 1: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 1: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 1: Shocked Level 49: Quick Form Level 24: Afterburner Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1664;730;1460;HEX;| |78DA7594594F135114C7FFD39952DA8215B1B440D9F716A6ADD107B760584C08901| |04D7C6D26B494C6429BB624FAA67E093F8389EB67704DD4A8D1377D3071C1075922| |AF6A3D9D33072E122699CC6FCEFDDFFF39F7CCBD337F6DAAE1F5ABB90BD0029379A| |B5C4E4D164AA5B562A55072CF5BD9DCA20EBA3C74F7EC0EA42E59ABD94CDA9CCE67| |162BA5DCA2954F4DD0D44ADB9E62626D69C99CB24A5753F339ABBC62C1BF5028E4C| |D8BF95C76B9E2B3F9723193493772B816CDAD6603F6DB5CC64A674AE5E55CB169BA| |985B746CC83F53BA1EA642FAE80EBAA05E5503485228E9850B0981310603A6409CE| |1B1B67FB69B56A7DB237588087433D4A34BA093C18736D8D0426E9AA6D868D0DD8E| |C46068805BA08EE1083C02F50C4FC842576CA023C6094294C0AD2670E33CAFE028C| |E099C663886330267198E639C0B0EBB6A5F50DB4BE0C11D963CA5A0574DEDC52015| |E5D1D14A02BFDA223F3ED48AF290ED1B8616BC1778CB10C63B0153B7E1199937AA0| |91AB1CE23CF291A5046F400829A3DD2861DDD814D8608FE90A48322545593DA9026| |F41B8E6490A1132302332E0756D8B81BD3ECF782DE9BD5DDD38CCF22F9E1B23375E| |32B430FD605BE3178E934049522B4A054DE83594EE027494849A085F0918BE9C327| |86767AB4AAEB6FC59648B6057E31F46387A1977CDBD5D4EDBC556A12075C24E9505| |2D34B952E44C8A14B6D5D17EEEACED47B0C83B82FF040E021C3101E31E864DFABDA| |F422A4D96D19C209D19ADC8E114405620C63186378498F01D566005FB8BB23D2F8A| |8F43B8AEF02CEA71895AF7483320E6BBB5BBBAA0DE32F776A14BF196E9224A6F639| |86939A234948554981530CB76892A9F81A261D517B242E09E2D8E41AE2F8C990C40| |683413D4A28295D09D920491C11F0D5C0C00C6D56CA93166D3562ECFF37D941FA7E| |7387C4170C4053E31AC7377C500776F59B87C4B70EC6AF70ADDB07476E730FC2B1F| |F8A9F8DD2CA9562AAF46FD87710AAE374EE928A59F51F4756D6A1| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|

@SeraphimKensaisounds awesome, mind sharing the build?

May have to give making a build a try then!

How would elec Blast? I've not used it in years and I have seen many mixed opinions on it.

Really would like a wider range of colour for ice powers. The palette at the moment is so muted and limited. I want black ice!

i did some messing around on the test server with this. I loaded ice slick up with 3 procs, they would sometimes fire upon casting but not always, but then i didnt even notice any damage from ice slick. I had a interface power slotted that constantly ticked 1 dmg every sec but that was it. Cold snap on the other hand worked really well. Again i added 3 procs (i think) and with the arc of the cone i would always manage to hit a significant amount of enemies. The only problem with this power is that it doesn't synergise much with the rest of the set. Works well as an opener that's it really. Arctic air is a bit odd as it takes a few secs for the effect to take hold so it can be a bit dicey!

Trying to maximise the potential of this build and wondered if anyone is able to make some improvements? This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6 https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Darkness Control Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Dark Grasp (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (5) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (5) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy (7) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 1: Infrigidate (A) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage (7) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (9) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (9) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (11) Ice Mistral's Torment - Chance for Cold Damage Level 2: Living Shadows (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (11) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (13) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (13) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (15) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 4: Mystic Flight (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) (50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 6: Possess (A) Coercive Persuasion - Confused (17) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge (17) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge/Accuracy (19) Coercive Persuasion - Recharge/Accuracy (19) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance (21) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion Level 8: Fearsome Stare (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration (21) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge (23) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge (23) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage Level 10: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (27) Recharge Reduction IO Level 12: Heart of Darkness (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (29) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (31) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 14: Kick (A) Empty Level 16: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (31) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 18: Haunt (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Arctic Fog (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (34) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 22: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 24: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 26: Shadow Field (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 28: Benumb (A) Accuracy IO (36) Recharge Reduction IO (37) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Ice Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 32: Umbra Beast (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (39) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (39) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 35: Sleet (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge Level 38: Heat Loss (A) Preemptive Optimization - Accuracy/Recharge (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Recharge (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Endurance (42) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge (42) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Fissure (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (42) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (43) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (43) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage Level 44: Seismic Smash (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (45) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (45) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) (46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (46) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (46) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 47: Rock Armor (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (48) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (50) Red Fortune - Defense (50) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 49: Earth's Embrace (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 1: Swift (A) Empty Level 1: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 1: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - 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At present I do have a plant/dark/fire who is pretty damn tanks at times but I have been told a few times now that plant is useless in hardmode because of the confusion immunity. Cold does suffer from a lack of survivability with having no heal - which sucks. But taking stone mastery for Earth's embrace helps a little (in theory). The irony is I had leveled a dark/dark troller last yr and ended up deleting it because I didn't like the pairing >.<

I'm not sure how valid this is but i tested a dark/cold/stone vs 3 Pylons and got the following times: 02:15, 01:59, 02:12 i then tested a sonic/cold/soul and got the following: 04:05, 03:53, 04:15 All same incarnates.

not sure how valid this is but i tested a dark/cold/stone vs 3 Pylons and got the following times: 02:15, 01:59, 02:12 i then tested a sonic/cold/soul and got the following: 04:05, 03:53, 04:15 not entirely sure how this would hold up in hard mode but for the most part i was using Shadow Field for some big -to hit, Dark Grasp, Infridgidate, Fissure, and Seismic Smash for ST dmg. Pets were out and died a fair amount even with shields but not sure how this would translate in hard mode.

Ah, thanks, updated. @hemij im not a fan of Def, i prefer the dmg aspect of a Corr.

After much deliberation I settled on a Sonic/Cold/Soul - though need to test on BETA server to see if i enjoy the combo, but in theory its ok. 33.23% s/l Def, 46.4% r, 75% s/l Res. The global rech is a problem at the moment: 26.9s off Hasten being perma 3.84s off Benumb 5.56s for Sleet Heatloss is at 100.9s overall - Mids isnt showing me the duration length but im pretty sure it was 90s? Agility Radial solves these issues but guts a decent amount of potential dmg from the procs. I don't really want to have to take ageless as i probably wont need it with Heat Loss and this build would probably benefit more from Clarion or Rebirth. As a side note, does Cold benefit from Power Boost? If not its better to probably change to Dark instead of Soul.

@Sovera then perhaps neither water or ice is the best fit then. In most cases I don't generally mind which blast set as I like most and could make them work. What I want is a character I can take through all the games aspects, so having powers that are beneficial to hard mode is important. @SeraphimKensai I'm curious how different sonic Blast is after the tweaks as it was previously better overall on a def. It's one of those sets I enjoy conceptually but in practice it just doesn't perform well enough.

Ideally I'm looking for a character to play all through the hardest content with some solo potential - hence fearsome. I think I'm leaning towards 2 characters: Ice/dark/dark corr Sonic/cold/soul corr or dark/cold/stone troller - though I think the sonic/cold will likely net better results, maybe. Though I would prefer the troller.

I actually went a different route - trying to aim more for Hard mode content:

Sounds like a good argument. But overall ice/cold would perform better in higher end content? Where would that compare to sonic/cold? Would ice/dark perform better than water?

In your experience why is cold better? Doubling down on -res? Access to -def? How do you manage without a self heal?

For therm which would be best: Sonic/Therm Dark/Therm Corr or Def?

Back on live I had a Rad/Dark/Dark corr which i did everything with, she was super tanky and just ate everything up. When homecoming was released I remade her as a Water/Dark/Dark and after getting to 50, fully slotting, and unlocking some Incarnate powers I put her on a shelf. Looking back now i think its because Water wasn't the best fit for me or maybe it was the build in general? I think perhaps i might have been trying to get too much from the build, taking too many powers and not enough slots. Water has a lot of good damaging abilities to the point that i think there is too much! I was trying to Fearsome Stare + Tar Patch + Soul Drain + Whirlpool + Water Burst/Geyser etc etc on nearly every encounter. Obviously most if not all would be dead before I even got a chance to cast everything. I think maybe the key to this build is to perhaps strip out a few abilities, the problem for me at least is identifying which need to go! I have considered recreating my original and going back to Rad/Dark (cant find the build I used so threw one together): Or maybe going for something new like Ice Blast: All that being said out of the 3 sets (Water, Rad, Ice) Water does seem to have the most damage potential? I mean the Tidal Power mechanic with Water Jet is great as it is. I am at a loss to say the least! I would like to be able to take this character into the higher end of difficulty content as well.

@Voltak fair enough then!

@Voltak how would an ill/nature compare in your estimation?

@Guffnat This is also something i have been considering...

ah yes! Good eye. Fingers crossed it works well!

@Sir Myshkin how about a dark/cold? In your estimation how would that fair? Have you done any symphony testing?