TTRPGWhiz

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I just don't think the filmmakers were so beholden to the comics storyline that these things made much difference.

I dunno. They managed to tell a version of the Infinity War saga without Adam Warlock, Eternity, Magus, Doom, Kang...I can't imagine Nebula was super important to the story they were telling (though she did end up with the MCU's best start-to-finish character arc).

The Brood Saga is good stuff. Describing Chris Claremont as a 'giant' is a choice. I think generally, fans of Carol Danvers prefer her more recent adventures to things like, "I woke up suddenly pregnant and gave birth to the clone of the dude who assaulted me".

The Guardians movie was made because A) someone in Marvel's screenwriting shop chose that from the stack of teams they had rights to, and B) they needed a team in space. The first few drafts didn't even necessarily include what became the team on screen; at one point, it was the OG Guardians. There is very little evidence to suggest that movies get made because the comics do well; there is also very little evidence to suggest that if a comic doesn't 'sell' (Ironheart), then any adaptation is doomed to failure because the book didn't have an audience.

I guess that’s just a different sort of metrics. To me if I enjoy something, that equates to being better than average. Call that B- and up. Not bad also suggests not good; aka, “average”. Call that “C- to C+”. Below that you get to your “bads” (Ds) and “terribles” (Fs). I don’t think I’ve ever in my life assigned a letter grade to a movie, but it helps to organize thoughts, I suppose. I don’t want to imagine the world where critic reviews have any more influence than they already seem to. Especially if we expand “critic” to include random YouTubers.

This explains so much about how these forums work. ETA: lol, never disappoints. Critical Drinker’s review is out, it takes him exactly 63 seconds to make a disparaging remark about “modern feminism”. These takes are all so boring.

I mean, at a certain point in life you stop being amazed by movies. It’s some real goalpost moving to look at a C+ review and think, “man, I remember when a B+ was the average…”

Feels like this convo has reached a nadir, no?

Another super normal comic book movie thread.

Griping that Sue Storm should be more like the version that puts up with her husband talking down to her is wild. My guess it that the Surfer is Shalla Bal and not Norrin Radd b/c this universe is (clearly) not the MCU, so after Galactus eats this planet and they get assimilated to the 'other' universe, there's a chance for 'our" Surfer to show up.

This is starting to feel more and more like the Secret Wars / universe incursion storyline. Most of these folks will probably be playing those roles for the last time. A Doctor Doom plot being the method by which the FF join the fray is pretty perfect. Kinda hoping Galactus eats their Earth and they need a new one.

I am very familiar with the comics lol. It's why I didn't refer to this dude's first trailer appearance as "Bulletproof Bob (?)" 😅

That Sentry spoiler is massive, might want to rethink that one.

https://deadline.com/gallery/avengers-doomsday-cast-photos-marvel/

For sure, the implication that there just *has* to always be a Captain America is pretty weird. Like, who is clamoring for that? In-universe or out?

I think the Viltrumites::CoH Archetypes as D&D Monsters::Classes. They're stat blocks, not character sheets. In other words, every Viltrumite we've seen so far is an AV, and they don't have to play by character creation rules.

I haven’t seen it.

My point was and is that it's regrettable that every conversation on this sub about these movies inevitably (and sometimes immediately) becomes "big company does bad thing to IP I like / why do these movies cost more but perform worse". It's like starting a conversation with, "Hey, there's a new Captain America movie coming out", and someone nearby rushing over and shouting "DISNEY HAS RUINED MY ADULTHOOD, LET ME SHOW YOU SOME SPREADSHEETS" at you. People are of course free to discuss "the industry" however they want; other people are also free to pine for the days when the biggest debate was about Bat-nipples.

"My money" stops being "my money" when I give it to someone else. Just like anyone's money. I don't pay Disney to make more movies; I pay Disney to watch the movie(s) they already made. Maybe that's voting with my wallet and sending a signal to Disney that I, personally, would like more of the kind of movies I just paid for. But that's not really how any of that works (I don't know what I think of a movie until after I've seen it; Disney doesn't care what I, personally, do with my money). People are of course "allowed" to discuss corporate finances or whatever else catches their interest. My opinion is that I find it lamentable that every thread about MCU movies in this sub inevitably turns into these armchair business analyses.

Ha, fair’s fair. I mean if a single sentence of the budget convos was “and they used MY TAX DOLLARS!”, I’d feel a bit more petard-hoisted. I stand by my opinion that it’s weird to care about movie budgets (or box office, frankly) if it’s not your money. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Wait til you hear about the incentive to move 2,000 jobs from Cali to Florida! (Also around $600M) Anyway: I miss being able to talk about comics movies without the conversations inevitably turning to armchair econometrists making their best guesses about the motives and business practices of a megacorporation with a $200B market cap. You either like the movie(s), or you don’t. They either do well commercially, or they don’t. The rest is just baloney.

lol, yeah I almost edited my post to include a bit about tax breaks/incentives. That’s definitely why folks are concerned about these movies’ budgets and why it’s never come up before. 😂

That, and the obsession several regulars of this sub have with budgets and box office are what keep it entertaining. You’d think these movies are being made with taxpayer dollars for how much some people care about Disney’s bottom line.

Sigh. I’m saying the first time anyone saw Clark Kent, they’d say “that’s Superman”, and vice versa. Superman shows up, some facial recognition spots him, it says “hey that’s Clark Kent”. You don’t need some lady saying his name for people to figure it out; it would have happened the second he showed up. If it’s “spazzing out” to point that out, sure.