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hey, have a read through this thread and some of the links, it might help
the best way to assist others in supporting you is to post a draft build and describe how you like to play (solo, teams, hardmode content) and what you want to get out of the character (maximum damage or survivability, good buffs or debuffs etc)
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17 hours ago, CoeruleumBlue said:
On Everlasting I had a discussion with someone about dark powersets and DPS characters because of the widespread conception that dark powersets have terrible DPS.
which is based on factual evidence from detailed testing across (melee) powersets where it consistently ranks in the lower end of the damage output spectrum
i like dark powers, melee and blasts, but they are not particularly impressive in their damage output - especially the melee powersets
is dark fun? yes
can you complete 99% of content with it? yes
is it a high DPS powerset? generally not the most impressive but it looks great, is a fantastic all rounder, has nice icon colours and is the king of ranged cones (blasts)
if i ever remake my kin/sonic defender it would be a kin/dark purely because i like the look of it
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to be fair, when running large events or trials, you can get spammed with a lot of messages including:
- people on the opposite side that need to switch (red/blue)
- people that need to alt
- people who are in a team
- people who are not in a team but are tagged to a TF and forgot
- people who are in a mission
- people who don’t know how to get to the zone
- people that aren’t ready yet but will be in 5 minutes
- people that would like space for them and two others
- people that aren’t a suitable level
- enquiries about the content
- snarky asking for money
which are all fine and if i’m running a TF i’ll respond and keep track of it, isn’t too hard for an 8 person team
if the league has 24+ people, trying to keep track of all this is quite difficult. therefore sometimes it’s easier to just invite from broadcast as you know they are there in the zone and ready to join
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On 12/5/2025 at 7:12 PM, Arbegla said:
but would other procs/slots be more valuable then the orb?
what would be more valuable in combat compared to fiery orb?
- throwing small pebbles at your enemy
- playing a flute off key
- responding “i guess” after each villainous remark from the enemy to demotivate them
- rustling a packet of peanuts on a quiet train without regard to those around you
as someone who part-mains a dominator i am legally obliged to say disparaging things about fiery orb
fun fact: did you know the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs was actually targeting the fiery orb ATO but inadvertently wiped out Team Dino instead?
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1 hour ago, Bill Z Bubba said:
Hey now, I've got a speedster that uses nothing but Shadow Maul, Flurry, repeat while running Whirlwind. She'll be happy with that change!
Granted, she's currently in the "probably be deleted" page.
Am glad about Air Superiority getting some help. I really do use that one a ton. Boxing some.
Guess it's time again to make some pool power attack brute.don’t forget sands of mu, could probably rotate the 3 of them as your full attack chain
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10 hours ago, Heatstroke said:
oooh Shield Charge Breaking Hide.. oooh Shoild Stalkers arent going to be happy..
if the devs want shield charge to break hide, then it should become a regular target AoE power that procs and allows for crit hits
now it offers the worst of both - breaks hide but isn’t a fully fledged attack
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wow, quite a lot of interesting changes
i’m looking forward to this more than the previous patch - i’m all about them power changes rather than content (i have no creativity, the inside of my head has no thoughts, just TV static)
flurry having its endurance cost reduced is a massive change. i expect it’ll now become mandatory for hard mode content. 8 whiffers, whiffing away at AVs. devastating.
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from what i’m reading, it seems that SD/MA is strong and pretty?
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1 minute ago, High_Beam said:
The Stalker one with the chance to hide hits way more than it misses which means almost guarantees better damage and surviviability. I always to slot in in my T4 super sneaky death power.
i was just about to post and say how much i enjoy both the stalker ATOs
the chance for build up is such a nice boost also
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inspirations
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1 hour ago, BurtHutt said:
-I didn't realize I was on a 'train' until one of the team mentioned it.
yes! the exact same happened to me
i agree with your views too. i found it palatable and fine but quite forgettable and a bit cramped
a new ITF style TF would be well received
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20 hours ago, MonteCarla said:
I know what you mean.
My first character on Homecoming was a Rad/Energy Blast Defender, and I've played it on a number of characters, including a Rad/Elec and a Rad/Dark Defender.
It's the Swiss Army knife of the original support sets that doesn't do any one thing really well, but does a lot of thing quite well.
When it comes down to it, support sets do three things:1. Our health bars aren't going down!
Rad Infection stops you getting hit much - once the long animation's done and your toggle anchor doesn't run off. Choking Cloud provides more intermittent protection and you can mop up with the heal. EMP is a good panic button. It's all good layered protection, but no Force Fields.
2. Our blue bars aren't moving!
Accelerate Metabolism does an OK job of this, with some OK +Recharge on top.
3. The enemy sure are falling over quickly!
Accelerate Metabolism provides an OK damage boost and Enervating Field provides some OK -Res. (If your toggle anchor doesn't run etc). Force Fields applies more -Res to a GM or AV these days.
When a Rad user joins my task force I go... "mmm. cool, I guess.". Not quite like the excitement of a Force Fielder or Kineticist who provide one big obvious advantage.
Over time, Rad's suffered a few blows:
- It has two powers that require a dead teammate. With Return to Battle from the START vendor, you have to be quick to Fallout and Mutation them before they get up anyway. Trying to teleport them first? Good luck with that without excellent team communication! I tried that often on my Rad/Dark pixie and couldn't do it most times. In addition, anyone can rez now with the SMART vendor temp, further devaluing Mutation.
- There was a time on Live when Lingering Radiation was a must-have for taking on giant monsters. Their regen has been toned down, and most teams handle them through sheer damage, -res debuffs and proc damage these days.
- Newer sets like Electric, Nature, Time and Marine are also Swiss army knives, but maybe a bit better, or at least easier to use, because enemy toggles are kind of annoying.
It's gained the new toggle behaviour, where your toggle keeps running on the body until it fades.
It's not a bad set at all, just somehow a bit hard to get excited about?
great points of view which i agree with
i think overall though the biggest impact to radiation has been that the default playstyle has changed to now focus much more heavily on DPS and outright pace, whereas on live, not being dead and having endurance were notable issues, therefore setting up the enemy toggles was not a disadvantage (other than someone killing the anchor)
if radiation infection and enervating field were turned into PbAoE toggles like venomous gas from poison i would expect radiation’s popularity would soar. still a great set regardless
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50 minutes ago, Maelwys said:
.Therefore really the most that folk with absolutely massive wallets can accomplish is to buy up all of the currently available copies of a specific item; and place "bid" orders waiting for more to arrive. This can temporarily drive up the price of individual items... but all a non-marketeer has to do is bid one inf higher then them ("I wanna buy it now!") and their bid will take priority... or they can choose to wait ("Patience is a virtue!") for supply to outstrip the number of bids and drive the price back down again... or they can choose to farm/redeem/craft/convert the item by themselves.
So the prices of specific items can be "manipulated" but not outright "controlled".very true from my experience. i spent around 150m a few years ago as an experiment to try and control a specific item but it was futile within around 1 day and was a massive net loss
the behind the scenes programming that an invention recipe or enhancement of any level are all placed into the same bin seems to create a mechanic whereby influencing the market for personal gain doesn’t seem to work
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have you tried https://cod.uberguy.net
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38 minutes ago, Uun said:
It's useful to understand how these foes are built. Out of the box they have 30% S/L and 35% F/C/E/N/T resistance. Unstoppable (which has a 45s duration) adds 65% S/L and 60% F/C/E/N/T resistance, taking them to 95% resistance to everything except psi. While damage resistance caps at 90%, the additional 5% resistance makes it more difficult to debuff their resistance (https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Resistance_(Mechanics)#Resistance_to_Resistance_Debuffs). There are a couple of ways to deal with Unstoppable:
- Psi damage - Cyclops and Minotaurs have no resistance to psi whatsoever.
- -End/-Recovery - if you can floor their endurance before they pop Unstoppable, they won't be able to fire it (or the animation will occur but will have no effect).
- Wait for Unstoppable to expire - fighting them while Unstoppable is up is pointless. Kite them or beat up something else for 45s.
https://cod.uberguy.net/html/entity.html?entity=romans_minotaur_boss
If you're fighting the Incarnate versions, base E/N resistance is increased to 50% and E/N resistance from Unstoppable is reduced to 45%.
https://cod.uberguy.net/html/entity.html?entity=romans_minotaur_boss_endgame
Not sure what you're referring to regarding 1000% regen. Neither Cyclops or Minotaurs have any regen buffs, whether from Unstoppable or otherwise.
i’ve also found putting two psi procs into slow recharging hold powers works well to cut through them
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i also have an elec/shield stalker. there are no other ATs worth rolling this combo as the stalker benefits greatly from having quick AS as part of the attack chain
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5 hours ago, Apogee said:
Added a poll by request
woo, thank you!
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i feel like the outlier here, i tend to only play defenders or dominators
now starting to play stalkers more. as a heavy insp user i tend to stay away from melee ATs as the secondary set of defensive powers is a waste for how i play alts - total contribution (damage, debuff, lockdown) is the most important aspect for me, survivability is provided by a few insps instead
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1 hour ago, Chrome said:
and my response to this would be why wouldn't you want to buff them for regular content? IMO and those of my small circle of friends is that MMs are just plain worse at everything with more hassle. IF you can keep your pets close and alive and on defensive and IF the MM takes damage and your pets DECIDE to all attack the same target one at a time then MMs feel pretty good, but as soon as you take them out of defensive or the pets start attacking all separate targets or the MM doesnt take any damage (while they are in defensive ) you are effectively useless. this doesnt even begin to touch the level differences and main part of this focused feed back. if for a few months or pages or what have you MMs became the Meta why would that be bad. I think that there is some idea somewhere that MMs are on an even playing field with other ATs, and this is just wrong objectively. If simply making MM Pets even level with the MM will put them slightly higher damage than a Dominator, so be it! let them have a chance to shine after having such a very long time in the doghouse.
This is very confusing, it feels like they are trying to keep the MM at the bottom instead of taking this opportunity to bring them up to snuff while at the same time also adjusting them for the newer content they are making.
I say let MMs be "plant control" for a bit and let them have a chance to be needed/wanted in groups. then slowly tune it down over time if needed.
i am wholly aligned to your view of MMs
i want to like them and have wanted to play one for so many years but it feels like in order for them to be comparable to other ATs you need to invest heavily in a Rube Goldberg of complex builds and advanced play strategy just to be on par for a niche selection of use cases where they operate in an acceptable but not mindblowing level of performance
at present they’re not worth the hassle for the limited situations where they can contribute. having an MM on the team is essentially a filler position
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as a thought, perhaps these changes are intended to keep masterminds competitive in the new expanded level range but not give them a noticeable buff for regular content?
could explain the (perceived) unnecessary level of complexity
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On 11/11/2025 at 12:24 AM, Maelwys said:
(i) Hurrah! 😁
Thank you, sincerely, for the work you've put into this.
(ii) For everyone seeing this for the first time... be aware that the "set bonus inheritance" only applies to actual "IO Set" Set Bonuses.
This means +MaxHP Set Bonuses from things like 3x Miracle and 3x Numina (+1.88% Hitpoints) work just fine... however effects from something like the Unbreakable Guard +7.5% MaxHP IO (which FUNCTIONS as a "Set Bonus" but isn't one of the Set Bonuses listed at the bottom of the IO Set whenever you hover over it) won't work.
In the same vein... "KB Protection" will inherit from 3x Gladiator's Armor IOs but won't from a Steadfast Protection, a Karma or a Blessing of the Zephyr IO etc.
(And yes, henchmen getting reliable knockback protection is one of the biggest winners from this patch, even if it's just -1.2mag per 3x Gladiators Armor!!)
(iii) I would like to point out that "henchmen becoming even-level" isn't quite the buff that it might first seem.
Traditionally the #1 complaint of MM players is that their T1 and T2 pets find it difficult to hit a foe which is higher than +3 to the MM (e.g. +5 to the T1 and +4 to the T2).
THIS PATCH DOES NOTHING TO HELP WITH T1 AND T2 HENCHMEN HIT CHANCE beyond them gaining access to 40% of the MM's own Global Accuracy set bonuses (NOT Kismet!) because Mastermind T1 and T2 Henchmen currently have their Hit Rate artificially lowered by -8% (T2s) and -17% (T1s).
T1:
T2:
T3:
This replicates their Hit Rate penalty on Live (where they're lower level) but it means getting them able to reliably hit higher level mobs is still a royal PITA.
Anyways, as IMO this is the biggest headache facing MMs and the changes do not go far enough in addressing it; I'm going to restate my proposed solution(s) below:
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T1 and T2 HENCHMEN HIT RATE:
Problem: Mastermind T1 and T2 Henchmen currently have their Hit Rate lowered by -8% (T2s) and -17% (T1s).
Even with the +10% ToHit from Supremacy, T1 henchmen still require just under 200% Accuracy (more than twice the ED cap!) before they'll achieve 95% Hit Rate versus the new Level 55 mobs; before debuffs. Which is completely unfeasible. Taking Tactics can somewhat offset this; as can taking specific primaries (Ninjas can slot Kismet into their T1 upgrade; Thugs have Enforcer Tactics) however it's still extremely difficult to reach the required levels of accuracy slotting. (e.g. even with Supremacy and fully-slotted Tactics your T1 pets still still require ~26% above ED-Capped Accuracy!)
Ideal Solution: Lose the Hit Rate debuffs completely; give the T1 and T2 pets the default (75%) Base Hit Rate.
Potential Compromise Solution: Swap the Hit Rate debuffs out for Accuracy debuffs.
This would mean that the T1 and T2 henchmen still have a significant penalty; but it's far more achievable to counteract that penalty against higher level foes via additional Accuracy slotting. Having "Base Accuracy" differences between different critter "Ranks" is also a well-established thing - see the "Rank-Based Accuracy Multipliers" table here.
As an example... if there was a -15% accuracy debuff on the T2s and -30% accuracy debuff on the T1s?
With Supremacy:
vs a +4 foe: the T2s would require ~109% Accuracy (rather than ~142%) and the T1s would require ~124% Accuracy (rather than ~197%)
vs a +3 foe: the T2s would require ~79% Accuracy (rather than ~90%) and the T1s would require ~94% Accuracy (rather than ~132%)vs a +2 foe: the T2s would require ~59% Accuracy (rather than ~64%) and the T1s would require ~74% Accuracy (rather than ~94%)
vs a +1 foe: the T2s would require ~42% Accuracy (rather than ~42%) and the T1s would require ~57% Accuracy (rather than ~64%)
vs a +0 foe: the T2s would require ~27% Accuracy (rather than ~24%) and the T1s would require ~42% Accuracy (rather than ~40%)
With Supremacy and ED-Capped ("+12% ToHit") Tactics:
vs a +4 foe: the T2s would require ~71% Accuracy (rather than ~80%) and the T1s would require ~86% Accuracy (rather than ~116%)
vs a +3 foe: the T2s would require ~51% Accuracy (rather than ~54%) and the T1s would require ~66% Accuracy (rather than ~80%)vs a +2 foe: the T2s would require ~37% Accuracy (rather than ~36%) and the T1s would require ~52% Accuracy (rather than ~56%)
vs a +1 foe: the T2s would require ~25% Accuracy (rather than ~21%) and the T1s would require ~40% Accuracy (rather than ~36%)
vs a +0 foe: the T2s would require ~13% Accuracy (rather than ~7%) and the T1s would require ~28% Accuracy (rather than ~19%)
So that works out better vs +1s and above (with no Tactics) and vs +2s and above (with fully-slotted Tactics). And the negative impact against low-level foes is very minor.
Also; personally I think taking Tactics and getting 86% Accuracy aspect in my T1 henchmen is an appropriate level of investment to reliably hit +4 mobs before debuffs.
Look at the far right column in the below spreadsheet snippet.
That's the Accuracy aspect slotting required for each of the Henchmen tiers to get them to cap their Hit Rate vs +3 or +4 mobs.
And yes, that's +197% Accuracy required in your T1s (e.g. the equivalent of "6x Accuracy SOs" before ED kicks in!) if you're not taking Tactics.
Even with a 6-slotted Tactics they still need ED-capped Accuracy plus another ~20% from set bonuses (which currently means their Master having +50% Global Accuracy)
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MASTERMIND ATO SLOTTING:
Problem: Mastermind ATOs can only currently be slotted into the Pet summon abilities and specific Tier 7 abilities.
On Live, specific Mastermind Primary powersets have more opportunity than the rest to slot ATOs - Thugs and Demons and Necromancy have Tier 7 powers (Gang War/Hell on Earth/Soul Extraction) which can take the ATOs. But Beasts, Mercs, Ninjas and Robotics do not.
On Test there has been an attempt to resolve this by giving the Tier 7 powers of those latter four powersets (Fortify Pack, Serum, Smoke Flash and Maintenance Drone) the ability to slot ATOs. However none of those abilities benefit from Damage aspect slotting; and many of them do not benefit from Accuracy aspect slotting. Therefore much of the benefit of these ATOs is getting wasted (and Serum has some other potential issues with how +Damage enhancement interacts with +DamageResistance enhancement under the hood!)
Ideal Solution: Let all damaging Mastermind Primary Attacks have the ability to slot ATOs.
This would mean Personal Attacks from Mastermind Primary Powersets such as Call Swarm, Burst, Snap Shot and Pulse Rifle Blast would become able to take and benefit from the ATO sets and all of their various enhancement aspects - accuracy, damage, endurance and recharge. Having 3 extra powers per set which can potentially take ATOs would also open up a lot of build variety for Masterminds and drastically ease the pressure on sets like Mercs (which simply cannot cram every beneficial IO into its three summon abilities!)
Potential Compromise Solution: Let the T1 and/or T2 Mastermind Primary Personal Attacks have the ability to slot ATOs.
Similar to the above, but it'd limit the scope of MM ATO slotting to only one or two personal attacks; in case the Devs are concerned about opening it up too wide.
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T1 AND T2 HENCHMEN DAMAGE OUTPUT:
Problem: Due to them becoming "even-level", Mastermind T1 and T2 Henchmen will deal more raw damage than before vs regular enemies.
On Live, T1 Henchmen deal 80% damage versus a mob that is "even level" to their Master. T2 Henchmen deal 90% damage. And it gets worse as enemy level rises.
Because this uses the purple patch scaling it affects ALL DAMAGE; including procs.
On Test, they're now technically dealing 100% damage against an "even level" mob. But their regular damage modifiers and proc damage modifiers have been tweaked. These tweaks (particularly proc damage) changed from patch to patch on Closed Beta so have been difficult to pin down... but the stated intent is that regular damage should be "lower vs even level and +1, about the same against +2 and much better vs anything +3 and higher" and proc damage should be "about as effective as before vs +3 foes."
Ideal Solution: It'd be easy to say "just set T1/T2 henchmen base damage to 80%/90% of what it is on Live; including procs"... but due to how things scale as enemy level rises that would work out drastically better versus higher level foes.
Example damage ramp up versus higher-level foes with T1/T2 base damage of 80%/90% compared to Live
vs +0s: 100% damage (T1s) and 100% damage (T2s)
vs +1s: 111% damage (T1s) and 101% damage (T2s)
vs +2s: 133% damage (T1s) and 111% damage (T2s)
vs +3s: 173% damage (T1s) and 122% damage (T2s)
vs +4s: 256% damage (T1s) and 144% damage (T2s)
However to put this into perspective; there's a (rather persuasive to my mind) argument that the contribution to MM damage from T1 henchmen is relatively minor. Whilst dealing 73% more raw damage versus +3 foes looks like a pretty hefty jump; in practice that's only really going from 0.3 base damage to 0.52 base damage (e.g. a Battle Drone's "Heavy Laser Burst" would rise from 15.05 --> 26.08 damage per hit) and an increase in the order of ~11 damage per hit probably isn't worth worrying about in the grand scheme of things. Therefore if we pick +0 foes as the "break even" point and simply allow it to ramp up versus higher level foes then the sky is unlikely to fall in.
Potential Compromise Solution: My gut feeling is that regular T1/T2 attack damage output having a "break even" point against +2 foes is acceptable... but proc damage could still use a bit of work. As far as I'm aware the most recent Dev power pokings made it so that compared to Live, henchmen damage from Incarnate Procs (e.g. "Damage over Time" from various Interface slot abilities; and "Double Hits" from the Hybrid slot Assault Radial abilities) is now severely reduced (at least outside of "Incarnate Content") but their damage from Regular Set IO procs is less severely reduced. And IMO this is one thing that could really do with further testing by a wider audience on Open Beta.
To illustrate this; consider what happens whenever my henchmen fight a level 51 (e.g. even-level, not levelless!) Pylon in the RWZ
On Live, T1s/T2s/T3s:
On Test, T1s/T2s/T3s:
Notice in particular the "Doublehit" and "Reactive Interface" proc damage. Even on my T3 henchmen (which has NOT had its level adjusted!) it's 65% lower on Test.
And I'll close on a positive note...
T1 AND T2 HENCHMEN SURVIVABILITY:
Rebalancing the now-even-level T1/T2 henchmen's "survivability" was a particularly problematic issue on Closed Beta.
Without mentioning any specifics, suffice to say that lowering the HP of the T1 and T2 pets was by far the best solution; and IMO the devs got this balance just right.
But it's worth pointing out that what the Devs call T1/T2 henchmen's "Max HP" in the patch notes is what players would generally refer to as their "Base HP".
Whilst a HP decrease of 22% [T1s] and 16% [T2s] might seem a bit harsh; given that at most they're only taking ~18% [T1] and ~10% [T2] less damage compared to Live; they're now getting the benefit of +MaxHP set bonuses (which are based on the MASTER'S HP not the Henchmen's!) so it's not quite as harmful in practice.
(With set bonuses my Bot/Kin's T1s are sitting on 480.99 HP and their T2s on 678.34 HP, which is effectively a reduction of -16.20% [T1s] and -11.67% [T2s] compared to Live)
There is ALSO a corresponding reduction of 22.00% (T1) and 16.00% (T2) in what players would generally refer to as their T1/T2 henchmen's "Maximum HP limit".
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However in practice this will likely only affect Cold Domination (Frostwork!) and Marine (Power of the Depths) MMs.so.. as an outsider opinion maelwys
it looks like a considerable amount of time has been spent to debuff the buff gained from changing the pet levels?
and now a considerable amount of time is needed to understand the impact, which is probably a net 0% gain or net nerf for the average player that doesn’t spend their life playing on +4/x8
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1 hour ago, Glacier Peak said:
on Indomitable we regularly defeat it with between 5 and 7 players.
wow, it takes the entire indom server population to defeat the minotaur?
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Just now, Scarlet Shocker said:
It's a single page, not an issue.
We not long ago had a big page drop
This is F2P run by an entirely volunteer, unpaid Dev team. I'd say they are doing an excellent job all things considered and new updates, however "insubstantial" they are, are very welcome.
you are so correct, i infact had this post open just now to make another edit reflecting this fact
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a lot of changes, but nothing substantial from what i can see. is a long list of tweaks and bug fixes substantial enough to count as a new release?
i’ll have another read through, maybe it’s more substantial than my initial parsing of the log
edit 1: a lot of fog labrinyth content, though i rarely see anyone recruiting for it on LFG
edit 2: the expanded difficulty for incarnate dark astoria will be nice. it may pull some people out of AE
edit 3: really like the origin art idea for the character info window
edit 4: as very correctly stated by scarlet, this is a Page rather than an Issue. a fair amount of changes for a single page
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Electric / Electric / Ice - Perma Dom Exemplared To Posi TF
in Dominator
Posted · Edited by MoonSheep
i would highly recommend making sure conductive aura is available at Posi TF levels and is nicely slotted for end mod
i’ve been playing an elec/earth dom on test for a few years and the -endurance aspect of it provides incredible levels of enemy nullification. it would be a game changer on tricky, slower paced TFs