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Ok, you are using hyperbole to overstate your perceived difficulty of the changes. It's not that hard.

I wouldnt be opposed to this on the stipulation it wouldn't sacrifice the current dmg output of the set, cause all things being equal the set performs great.

The feel is there though, it feels like it did on live only better, all I have to do is use TF - which I would do anyway.

The fact that you can do all 3 is flexibility, you can choose one if you like, or you can rotate, but keep in mind 2 of the choices are additions.

Another problem is we don't have a scrapper EM to compare live vs beta on But my results show an improvement of 2 min or more across all ATs

Well not every test caters to the strengths of the set on every AT. Stalker EM pylons better than anything else. Scrapper EM does better in saturated enemy environments. My scrapper will clear a map faster than my stalker but my stalker is faster on the Pylon. Pylon is not the end all be all and we need to keep that in mind.

Aaand that's how its done, I like the sitiluational capabilities of the changes - especially on stalkers

Eh its not all of us, my main on live was EM. I love the change, and any way you slice the actual data is an improvement and more flexible.

PC is useful situationally if in a concentration of baddies.

Yeah you would rather have it tabled so nobody gets it if you don't get your way. How cool is that.

lol I never said that, discussing ideas went away with calling good changes based on data and fact crap, all because it doesn't meet stylistic preference -- which still exists if you tap one button. Thats All you have to do. lol

But facts disprove that notion, its not constrained. There have always been optimal rotations even on pre nerf. This actually gives you more flexibility.

I don't care what you do, but its highly unfair to view the changes as crap when by your own admission its a buff. You are welcome to keep whinging about it, I won't stand in your way.

There is no order, just one power to make it optimal. That you would use anyway.

I didn't say that. But It is a buff It is an improvement over pre nerf with or without the focus The rest is You getting ticked you didnt get your way with the style of the change.

You would use it ANYWAY. If you didn't use it - THAT would be self gimping. Especially with the lowered animation.

Its just restating your opinion over and over again that the change doesnt meet your style preference. Doesn't demonstrate how these changes will or will not work.

Its no different than pre nerf when we would squeeze 2 ETs in one BU cycle to max dmg. Back then THAT was the ONLY way. Now we have more flexibility than that with these changes. Every power is improved and you STILL get old ET back.

Totally false. There is optimal and there is accessible. Not being optimal doesnt mean its not fantastic still. All you have to do is use TF which why the hell wouldnt you use it anyway, I'm hitting over 1100 pts of dmg with it on my tanker.

Well see scrapper believe or not, is not as optimal on a Pylon test, but put it in mission saturation and it excels more. Stalker on the other hand will eat your Warmace lunch.

Well post your data then.

Its not being dismissive. In fact people ignoring the benefits of these changes are being dismissive based on personal preference - which if you looked at the set objectively you would see it does everything you are clamoring for already. Its just not getting your way, and thats why you are triggered.

That is incorrect. It's the pinnacle of ST. Warmace is better in AOE but not ST.

That's opinion. One of many.

You used a lot of Ifs there. You are compartmentalizing all the changes into seperate categories, if you only looked at one change by itself it may be a poor update. You cant do that though all of the changes work together to make the whole set superb and even surpassing pre nerf EM. And again even if you took focus out, it would still surpass pre nerf EM. No its not the same, statistically its better, and IMO stylistically and strategically its far better.