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Why constantly change? Just go Rogue alignment and stick with it.

There's a huge thread on changes to Tanks....I'm hoping Leo and the other devs looked through this thread for the change they are making.

Yes, but after 4 months and after it became the standard on every server....was there any need to correct it?

There's a big difference between how much of an effect leechers have on a group as a whole when you talk about a group of 50 vs a group of 200. Every leecher affects the group of 50 to a much higher degree than a group of 200.

Doesn't matter. All you have to do is do it quick enough to fill up the other Hive/Abyss zone before they catch on. Which can probably be done in a matter of seconds if you do it right.

People are already taking notes of the slackers and griefers in hami raids. It's happening on Excelsior, and Indomitable from what another person in this thread said. And getting mad about it. You could do this sure....but don't be surprised when it becomes hard to find a team because people remember who you are.

QuiJon. I've already mentioned a few of the ways to combat this. Does it suck that extra effort might have to be taken to combat this? Yes. But it can be dealt with.

One thing I will say to the zone cap changes.....the RWZ zone cap needs to be raised. As it stands right now, 1 instance of RWZ can't even support a Mothership Raid + literally ANY OTHER CONTENT. Raid + LGTF? Nope. Raid + Tin Mage? Nope. Raid + Apex? Nope. RWZ isn't like the Hive and the Abyss where people are there for only 1 purpose. It should have a higher cap to support all the content that's included in it.

And the moment 1 person tells a friend "I'm doing a Hami right now" your private raid just became public.

Do you lead raids? Regularly? I've been leading/helping lead every night since Homecoming came back up and I got a toon to 50. Obviously cancelling a raid is a last ditch, no other options left action. But it IS a valid action if nothing else works. And trust me.....we have our share of griefers on Excelsior. We've been through it. Also....the fact that you're so mad about cancelling the raid.....it's actually a wash, and here's why. Let's say we don't cancel the raid. Let's say those of us who are actually willing to participate give it our best but we fail. And then we end up with Hami in triple bloom status and can't finish. That will cause the EXACT same peer pressure effects on the griefers as cancelling the raid. Maybe even more so because then they cause people to fail. Cancelling the raid is actually the nicer option.

We have experience with griefers on Excelsior. Trust me....there are things they care about and things you CAN do to them that correct their behavior. Also....and let me be clear about this..... ALL RAIDS ARE PUBLIC. The Hive and the Abyss are both open, public zones. You can not control who enters/leaves. There is no such thing as a "private raid".

And you know what happens when they do this? You surreptitiously organize with the people who AREN'T griefers and move to The Hive 2 real quick and lock them out. There's usually always a way AROUND a problem without having to break through it. Or you just cancel the raid. After cancelling the raid a couple times because of the griefers, the griefers will start finding that their teaming options will become limited as more and more people despise them. Peer pressure works.

Wanted to make sure as many people as possible see this. The patch notes from this morning say that the Hive zone cap was set back to 50 the way it was back on Live. Raids will have to go back to old school style with 1 league. (Kill the mitos, damage Hami, kill the mitos, damage Hami, etc)

Or I can believe that sub conversations are completely able to happen within a main conversation, and I can freely point out whether something is relevant to either.

I think someone needs to tell you about PUBLIC FORUMS. No such thing as an A&B conversation here.

Bringing up Profit's tanking skills in a thread about tanking that he started is unrelated? O_o o_O

Read the OP again. Then go read the posts in the thread where people said they don't play Tanks because they can play a Brute instead.

I mean.....I could throw 500 million at you. It really doesn't matter. This is a bet i wouldn't lose anyway. Also, it's sad that you don't understand friendship.

ROFL..... I've seen many try and fail to do exactly what you're saying is possible. A good tanker does not lose aggro. Period.

As I mentioned before.....bring whatever you want and go try to pull aggro off Profit. Bring a Blaster. Scrapper. Stalker. Whatever. Do your best. Heck, I'll up the bet to 50 million.

You act like I didn't already know that Leo wouldn't actually take the bet. I could have said 500 million inf and still gotten the same reply. If you're so interested in how I risk my influence though, you can feel free to contribute to the Foxfyre Fund.

The Excelsior global channel could benefit from more people advertising teams/LFG there as well.

Think you're not following your own advice there, bud. Profit is one of the original Justice server Hami tanks. And still performs that job on Excelsior now. But....tell you what.....if you feel he's not experienced here's what you should do. We have a bit of a problem in the Hive with people who can't follow instructions/like to grief by dragging GM's to the rock on people. Profit regularly steals their aggro and holds the GM's away from the rock to keep them from doing it. So.....if you feel you can tank better....come to the Hive, round you up some GM's and keep Profit from stealing your aggro. I'll bet 10 million influence you can't.

Bumping to remind everyone that the deadline is this Saturday! Less than 7 days left.

It's your lucky day, @Ukase! You can transfer Merits. I believe you have to convert them to Hero Merits first....but you can definitely do that. While you're at it, send me 80 as well :P