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I'm convinced I am never gonna get to play this game again because they refuse to make mastermind minions stronger and want the mm himself stronger. The mastermind is about his minions, not himself. The ninjas are still too squishy, the wolves are god awful at aoe, still have the same lame minions forever while other archetypes get new powers constantly. Only a few mm secondaries are good and you have to pick like 3 of the dozen or so to get the best buffs/debuffs which makes most of the secondaries useless. Not sure who wanted arsenal control/assault, could have thought of dozens of better powers in a few seconds. I love the mastermind. We need new minion powersets already and to make the ones we have actual minion powersets. The minions should be powerful, not the secondary or mastermind themselves.

Thank you so much sir. I was just about to edit my post cause I was thinking about it and was so worried I sounded like a freaking jerk haha. Thank you for the information. That helps a lot for me. I appreciate it!

This is great, but I just wished we had this without the patron/ancillary powers. I am no rper by any means(I can't stand it personally), but I can't use gloom(or zapp) on a ice melee or katana or anything not dark or martial arts or savage or heck even energy melee, I could make that work. It just doesn't make sense and is so out of place on like war mace or stone melee or titan weapons. I like to stick to theme if I can and if not, it has to make somewhat sense. Not to mention, not every build can fit those attacks in and deck them out without gutting other things. I like looking at these to see what power I want as a solo tanker, but I don't know if ice melee is better because I would never use gloom or cross punch cause to me it doesn't make sense. I know this is to see how well they do in these tests with max dps, but I bet 98% of the players don't want to mix these sets like this and still want to know what the best st/aoe dps is for each set. I hope someone comes along and does one of these tests, but with the archetypes inherent powers from the primary/secondary and you can just add the ancillary/patron powers as a bonus.

@Galaxy Brain I don't know if this is still being worked on, but if it is, is there anyway we could get dates on the spreadsheet and the new energy melee, stone melee etc? It is hard to read because I am not sure which page is more recent. Like is copy of alpha gb more recent or is copy scrapper tests base? I am a newbie and this spreadsheet has helped a ton, but its just, for me, (maybe cause I am still relatively new) all over the place.

It's ok, I knew what you meant cause I saw you say pom poms lol During my research I saw that is what every one uses to describe it. I tried, really really hard to make that work in mids and I just couldn't get anything I liked even without taking fault (which I read all over the forums that it wasn't worth taking). I could not get s/l resists past 53% without sacrificing too much damage/survivability elsewhere. I couldn't get past 38% f/c defense either, but that wasn't a big deal since I had capped resists on those. With fault, there is no way to even come close to what I want. On the mids builds I make, I try to get 3 great ST attacks for a chain and 2 aoes, 1 or 2 from the set and/or 1 from the ancillary/epic. Stone/Stone just seemed like I was gonna suck in aoe with just tremor.

I am a very indecisive person. In mmos, it takes me days or weeks to pick a char even when there is like 7 classes. So take this game with so many power combos too many to count, you can see my predicament. I just like a lot of things. The thing that matters most to me is being able to solo when I don't team, as I am a single father of two teen kids and I have to leave a lot since I do everything on my own for them. So being able to just get on and play how I want and when I want, is key. I was hoping to find something I don't have to work too hard at to survive, aka destroy my hands or wear out my keyboard/mouse in a few weeks, and still have good st with decent aoe. I see what you are saying, but for me it is a mix. Like I think staff seems cool. I am a HUGE martial arts buff irl. But I have done a lot of research over the last few months and I know on all the charts, the pylon threads and GBs melee testing, that it is one of the lowest damage wise, so I know I won't like it because of that. Even if I am interested in it. MA/shield seems awesome, but it has no heal and I always see people with /shield saying they wish they had a heal. Dark fixes that, but DM doesn't seem interesting to me in mids. So see how lame I am? haha Only build I like the numbers on in mids, is a electric/MA tanker. I got the resists I want, capped melee defense, a heal, but I don't like tanking in any game.

Thank you for everyone still trying to help and throw out their info. Sorry, I have been busy in my off time trying to find a job, as I just got my Security+ certification last month and also for some reason I wasn't notified of new posts -.- 1. and 2. I don't really know. I haven't really been past 30 on any char so I don't know what is feasible. 3. I don't want to work THAT hard. I mean, I want a little challenge, but I want to focus more on doing damage. 4. I am hoping 50 lol On scrapper I am worried that my resist cap and lower base resist numbers is gonna hinder me. Like yeah, I can get capped defense, and melee defense on most armor sets in mids, but if I get hit, it's gonna hurt. Rad/rad so far seems nice, but funny enough, I got closer to dying a lot more on rad/rad than I did kat/nin on the way to 10 so far.

Thank you everyone for the help. Like I said, I truly appreciate it. I will work on my /nin, but I am also going o start a /rad. I will see how much different it is and if I like it better. I was gonna go rad/rad though cause I think its theme, for me is better than sav/rad, even though savage is a good set by the numbers. I do a lot of research and buildings in midsreborn, but like I said, I have very limited actual gameplay after 20. I will start figuring out where to get some money and then how to get these IOs for my level range.

Thank you. I truly appreciate the help. I will see about trying to power thru a little and get these IOs. I build a lot in mids, but I don't actually know how or where to get all the IOs. I seem to spend more time building builds, then I do actually playing. So I was able to get max defenses and great resists in the builder, but no idea how to get all those IOs in game. And just getting up to that point felt squishy, but I will go work on it now then. Thank you again. I really do like my ma/nin guy, though I think kat/nin would be better to me cause it goes together better.

No. I just like using it when I want. The more I think about it now though, yeah it is the same huh? But I feel like dark melee relies more on soul drain to do good damage and the other sets still do good damage without their build up. I am wrong aren't I? I suck at explaining. I feel like with DM, I have to immediately use soul drain or I am not as strong, as with other sets, I can jump in, still do good damage and only use build ups on bosses. Thank you. This is what I thought. I had a nagging feeling that willpower might be the only one that will do what I want at first until I get enough money to deck out another power set.

Oh yes of course. I just don't like having to use it all the time at the start of the fight or my attacks will be weaker. I know, its just a me thing.

haha ouch.

I just die a LOT more than I would like on /nin. Yes, like I mentioned I am new, so I don't have billions to kit out stuff 😕, so yeah, just DO's and SO's for now. I take a lot of hits and it gets frustrated so I end up logging off. I LOVE the theme of nin. Like I said, I really want to do kat/nin, cause of theme, I just get wrecked. I did try ice/nin once, but it was so long ago, I forgot how it was and apparently didn't like it cause it was deleted lol. Was just looking for something I can play that will be safe, easy, new player friendly, and I can just go in and kill things and only have to worry about dying if I do something royally stupid. Thank you. I will look into those then. I did try brutes (ma/elec was pretty cool), but I don't like the rage mechanic. I frequently stop multiple times since I am a single father of 2 teens(They are always talking to me and/or asking for stuff). So I don't like having to get my rage back up each time.

Hi there. I was wondering what the safest scrapper combo of powers is? I will be soloing probably. Will worry about grouping later when I have the time. I haven't gotten past 34 in my few years of off and on playing. So basically newbie. I have tried ma/nin (up to 26 and it is so squishy), ice/ice (only up to 20 so far, seems good with ice patch but drains end pretty fast from ice attacks/ice armor toggles). I have tried /energy up to 26, but it costs a lot of endurance so my toggles fall off a lot. I am just looking for something I can use to be survivable from 1-50. DM/shield to 20, so far so good, though I am bummed there is no dark obliteration for an extra aoe to pair with shield charge and not a fan of soul drain and dark consumption. Was trying to think of something thematic. kat/nin/weapon I built in mids and it seemed cool with shuri/exploding shuri. A rogue mm jounin, but on my /nin chars, its so dang squishy I get frustrated. Don't care for spines, don't like the animations of claws, didn't seem very claws like, Or if you think it would be better, I don't mind doing a tanker. Just i don't like tanking, so I will not group with tanker, though I do love the survivability and just being a powerhouse or taking damage. inv/ma I built in mids seemed amazing, same with shield/ma, since shield gives more damage. Thank you for reading and/or trying to help. I appreciate it.

Thank you so much!!! You are awesome. It was miasma3.ogg