[Build Request] Illusion/Nature Affinity

[Pie-ro]

Hey everyone. Blaster here, I just made my first controller since the game came back.

 

Just wondering if anyone has any good builds for the ill/plant combo, or if anyone could make one up for me? 

 

Thanks in advance! 

 

 

Edit: If it sweetens the deal I can compensate you with some influence or some farms runs for the build if it helps persuade anyone to chime in 😄

Edited December 5, 2019 by Pie-ro
Adding a little incentive ;)

[Erydanus]

It's been a day and no responses so I'm just going to say it.

 

It's a weird (random) combo.  It's not bad it's just …. what are you going to do with it? The build would completely depend on what you want to do. It's a very random pairing that doesn't really synergize or complement. You have a pretty good set in your left hand and a really good set in your right hand, are you right handed or left? Are you going to play it like a Nature Affinity defender except with an innate invisibility power and the ability to selectively hold and confuse more difficult targets while focusing on support, basically trading off the blast secondary for a small handful of controls? Did you see yourself primarily soloing buffing your pets? The secondary isn't going to be very helpful I that case. The phantom army is invulnerable. You can buff your phantasm but just aoe buffs that affect you as well, it's not like an Illusion/Empathy controller spamming Fortitude on their minion. Nature is very team oriented though it does affect the caster as well. It does give you the personal hold aura power which I can see being helpful to an illusion controller, but I can also see it going to waste. 

 

My actual advice, but not the advice you asked for, would be to play a different type of controller altogether for your first controller. Illusion is one of the 2 more unique control sets, it just plays really differently than most of them.

 

 

[Pie-ro]

Ive played many controllers on live. 

1 hour ago, Erydanus said:

It's been a day and no responses so I'm just going to say it.

 

It's a weird (random) combo.  It's not bad it's just …. what are you going to do with it? The build would completely depend on what you want to do. It's a very random pairing that doesn't really synergize or complement. You have a pretty good set in your left hand and a really good set in your right hand, are you right handed or left? Are you going to play it like a Nature Affinity defender except with an innate invisibility power and the ability to selectively hold and confuse more difficult targets while focusing on support, basically trading off the blast secondary for a small handful of controls? Did you see yourself primarily soloing buffing your pets? The secondary isn't going to be very helpful I that case. The phantom army is invulnerable. You can buff your phantasm but just aoe buffs that affect you as well, it's not like an Illusion/Empathy controller spamming Fortitude on their minion. Nature is very team oriented though it does affect the caster as well. It does give you the personal hold aura power which I can see being helpful to an illusion controller, but I can also see it going to waste. 

 

My actual advice, but not the advice you asked for, would be to play a different type of controller altogether for your first controller. Illusion is one of the 2 more unique control sets, it just plays really differently than most of them.

 

 

Ive played controllers on live. This is just my first one since the game came back. 

 

"The build would completely depend on what you want to do."

What I want to do is play my ill/plant troller with actual sets in it thats all. 😄

 

 

Still Looking for a build.

 

Thanks!

 

Edited December 6, 2019 by Pie-ro
spelling and stuff

[oedipus_tex]

I think this kind of Controller is fine. Nature Affinity isn't any worse a pairing for an Illusion Controller than it would be on a Corruptor or Defender, and in some ways it is a better pairing. Both sets benefit a lot from +Recharge, which is where the majority of your efforts should go.

 

 

 

 

[Pie-ro]

8 minutes ago, oedipus_tex said:

I think this kind of Controller is fine. Nature Affinity isn't any worse a pairing for an Illusion Controller than it would be on a Corruptor or Defender, and in some ways it is a better pairing. Both sets benefit a lot from +Recharge, which is where the majority of your efforts should go.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the reply! Any chance you could whip up a quick build as an example, or have one lying around? 

[oedipus_tex]

Here's a quick build I made for this combo. Note I am not an expert on either Illusion Control or Nature Affinity.

 

This is a modest priced build that mostly avoids purple sets. I made the assumption since you don't know a lot about builds that you aren't shopping for a tip-top maxed out character. (I am too much of an alt-a-holic to go for those builds anyway. Often you can outfit 2 or 3 characters for the price of 2 sets of purples, so I rarely persue them except on builds where it is critical. e.g. perma Dominators.)

 

This build would give you around 34 S/L defense, 36 Ranged defense, with +88.8% Global recharge.  I went with Scorpion APP because Nature is lacking in resistance debuffs, which you will want to boost the damage of your pets. 

 

None of the key powers are truly perma, but they are close. The chance for +100% Recharge IO in Disruptor Blast should help close this gap, and you can look to Incarnate abilities to close the gap further. 

 

Note that Disruptor Blast needs a KB to KD IO to prevent it from knocking foes backwards. There isn't one in Mids so I left that slot blank.

 

 

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962
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ill nature: Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Nature Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blind -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(3), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(5)
Level 1: Corrosive Enzymes -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Regrowth -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(5)
Level 4: Spectral Wounds -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(9), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 6: Deceive -- CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(A), CrcPrs-Conf%(13), CrcPrs-Conf(13), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(15), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(15), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(17)
Level 8: Wild Growth -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(17), UnbGrd-Max HP%(19), StdPrt-ResKB(19), StdPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(21)
Level 10: Spore Cloud -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(A), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(21), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(23)
Level 12: Group Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 16: Lifegiving Spores -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(25)
Level 18: Phantom Army -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(27), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(27), RechRdx-I(29), SlbAll-Build%(29)
Level 20: Wild Bastion -- NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(A), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(31)
Level 22: Flash -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(34)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Spectral Terror -- SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprOvrPrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(34), SprOvrPrs-EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(36), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(36)
Level 28: Rebirth -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 30: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Phantasm -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(37), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(37), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(39)
Level 35: Poisonous Ray -- Thn-Acc/Dmg(A), Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Thn-Dmg/Rchg(40), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40)
Level 38: Overgrowth -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(42), RedFrt-EndRdx(42), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(43), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Disruptor Blast -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Empty(45), PstBls-Dam%(45), ExpStr-Dam%(45), PstBls-Acc/Dmg(46), Rgn-Dmg(46)
Level 47: Summon Tarantula -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(48), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 49: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(51)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(7)
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 19% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 19% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 19% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 19% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 19% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 19% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 19% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 19% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 6% Defense(Melee)
• 6% Defense(Smashing)
• 6% Defense(Lethal)
• 6% Defense(Fire)
• 6% Defense(Cold)
• 26% Defense(Energy)
• 26% Defense(Negative)
• 6% Defense(Psionic)
• 27.25% Defense(Ranged)
• 6% Defense(AoE)
• 8% Enhancement(Stunned)
• 8% Enhancement(Held)
• 8.8% Enhancement(Terrorized)
• 12% Enhancement(Confused)
• 88.75% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 16% Enhancement(Immobilized)
• 16% Enhancement(Sleep)
• 29% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 12% SpeedFlying
• 148.8 HP (14.63%) HitPoints
• 12% JumpHeight
• 12% SpeedJumping
• Knockback (Mag -4)
• Knockup (Mag -4)
• MezResist(Confused) 22.5%
• MezResist(Held) 22.5%
• MezResist(Immobilized) 22.5%
• MezResist(Sleep) 22.5%
• MezResist(Stunned) 22.5%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 22.5%
• 18% (0.3 End/sec) Recovery
• 10% (0.42 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 7.5% Resistance(Smashing)
• 7.5% Resistance(Lethal)
• 1.5% Resistance(Fire)
• 1.5% Resistance(Cold)
• 4.5% Resistance(Energy)
• 4.5% Resistance(Negative)
• 12% SpeedRunning

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Edited December 8, 2019 by oedipus_tex

[Pie-ro]

1 minute ago, oedipus_tex said:

Here's a quick build I made for this combo.

Hey thanks a lot! Ya Im good at following recipes, not so good at creating the recipes haha. Middle priced was what I was looking for. 

 

I appreciate you taking the time to do this. Message me in game or on here if you ever need anything, my main fire/fire blaster is decked out with purple surperiors, Im down to help ya with whatever you need! @Pie-ro    

[splashgordan81]

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

ill nature: Level 50 Natural Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Nature Affinity
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blind

• (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
• (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
• (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
• (5) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold: Level 30
  

Level 1: Corrosive Enzymes

• (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
  

Level 2: Regrowth

• (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb: Level 50
• (5) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
  

Level 4: Spectral Wounds

• (A) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
• (7) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
• (9) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
• (9) Entropic Chaos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
• (11) Entropic Chaos - Chance of Heal Self: Level 35
  

Level 6: Deceive

• (A) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused/Endurance: Level 50
• (13) Coercive Persuasion  - Contagious Confusion: Level 50
• (13) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused: Level 50
• (15) Coercive Persuasion  - Confused/Recharge: Level 50
• (15) Coercive Persuasion  - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge: Level 50
• (17) Coercive Persuasion  - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
  

Level 8: Wild Growth

• (A) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance: Level 30
• (17) Regenerative Tissue - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
• (19) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Recharge: Level 30
• (19) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
• (21) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30
  

Level 10: Spore Cloud

• (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance: Level 50
• (21) Dampened Spirits - To Hit Debuff/Endurance: Level 50
• (23) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff: Level 50
  

Level 12: Group Invisibility

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
  

Level 14: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
• (23) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
• (36) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  

Level 16: Lifegiving Spores

• (A) Healing IO: Level 40
• (25) Healing IO: Level 50
  

Level 18: Phantom Army

• (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
• (25) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
• (27) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
• (27) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
• (29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
• (29) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  

Level 20: Wild Bastion

• (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance: Level 30
• (31) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
• (31) Panacea - Hea/Recharge: Level 30
• (40) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
• (46) Panacea - Heal: Level 50
  

Level 22: Flash

• (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized: Level 50
• (31) Superior Will of the Controller - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge: Level 50
• (33) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
• (33) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance: Level 50
• (33) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
• (34) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage: Level 50
  

Level 24: Combat Jumping

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
  

Level 26: Spectral Terror

• (A) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
• (34) Glimpse of the Abyss - Endurance/Fear: Level 50
• (34) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
• (36) Glimpse of the Abyss - Fear/Range: Level 50
• (36) Glimpse of the Abyss - Accuracy/Fear/Recharge: Level 50
  

Level 28: Rebirth

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  

Level 30: Hover

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
  

Level 32: Phantasm

• (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
• (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
• (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
• (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
• (39) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown: Level 50
  

Level 35: Poisonous Ray

• (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 40
• (39) Decimation - Damage/Endurance: Level 40
• (39) Decimation - Damage/Recharge: Level 40
• (40) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
• (40) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 40
  

Level 38: Overgrowth

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
• (42) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  

Level 41: Maneuvers

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
• (42) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 50
• (42) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 50
• (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
• (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
• (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  

Level 44: Disruptor Blast

• (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50
• (45) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown: Level 50
• (45) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 50
• (45) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage: Level 20
• (46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
• (46) Ragnarok - Damage: Level 50
  

Level 47: Summon Tarantula

• (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff: Level 20
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
• (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
• (50) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  

Level 49: Scorpion Shield

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed: Level 50
• (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
• (51) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
  

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Containment 

Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

[splashgordan81]

Can someone please look and give me any advice, I was really shooting for PA to be perma but missed it by 1 sec, thanks.