A big list of low priority bugs

[JayboH]

2 hours ago, Rudra said:

Are there specific maps or doors doing that? Because I've been playing a MM all week and that hasn't happened.

Nope.

 

This is specific to zoning, not just doors that open with no loading/instancing.  Which primary?

[Rudra]

11 minutes ago, JayboH said:

Nope.

 

This is specific to zoning, not just doors that open with no loading/instancing.  Which primary?

My main: Ninja/Dark. Doesn't even happen to me zoning either. Not going to/from Kallisti Wharf for instance or when entering or exiting missions.

 

Edit: Are you sure you aren't just hitting a lag spike from server traffic?

 

Edited Saturday at 06:36 AM by Rudra

[JayboH]

38 minutes ago, Rudra said:

My main: Ninja/Dark. Doesn't even happen to me zoning either. Not going to/from Kallisti Wharf for instance or when entering or exiting missions.

 

Edit: Are you sure you aren't just hitting a lag spike from server traffic?

 

No it does it every single time.

 

Muted audio with several instances of the issue

 

 

[JayboH]

On 7/5/2025 at 1:34 AM, Rudra said:

My main: Ninja/Dark. Doesn't even happen to me zoning either. Not going to/from Kallisti Wharf for instance or when entering or exiting missions.

 

Edit: Are you sure you aren't just hitting a lag spike from server traffic?

 

You've never seen it do what is in the video?

[Rudra]

2 minutes ago, JayboH said:

You've never seen it do what is in the video?

No. Not even once.

 

Edit: The video looks to me like lag. That's me though. And I have not had that happen with any of my MMs. (Edit again: Neither did my friend's MM while were teaming. So we had two MMs running around at the same time doing the same content and not once did that happen to either of us.)

 

Edited yesterday at 06:09 PM by Rudra

[JayboH]

3 minutes ago, Rudra said:

No. Not even once.

 

Edit: The video looks to me like lag. That's me though. And I have not had that happen with any of my MMs.

 

That's an enormous amount of lag if that's the case.  They just happen to reload every power up with their corresponding outfits?

 

EDIT:  What's the netgraph command again? 

Edited yesterday at 06:10 PM by JayboH

[Lunar Ronin]

3 minutes ago, JayboH said:

You've never seen it do what is in the video?

 

 

I see it on Thugs all of the time, since live.  It's resulted in quite a few character defeats over the years, due to ambushes at the door and unresponsive henchmen who need to load in three times.

[Rudra]

Just now, JayboH said:

That's an enormous amount of lag if that's the case.  They just happen to reload every power up with their corresponding outfits?

I didn't notice any changes in their visuals. Just where each minion appeared.

[JayboH]

1 minute ago, Rudra said:

I didn't notice any changes in their visuals. Just where each minion appeared.

Watch the Thugs part.

[JayboH]

1 minute ago, Lunar Ronin said:

 

 

I see it on Thugs all of the time, since live.  It's resulted in quite a few character defeats over the years, due to ambushes at the door and unresponsive henchmen who need to load in three times.

Yeah I've never seen it NOT do this.

 

If Rudra is correct then it must be nice living right next to the servers.  If this is correct then I was hoping there could be a better way of loading it because it shows that the code is resummoning them all individually with each powerup.

[Rudra]

Just now, JayboH said:

 

If Rudra is correct then it must be nice living right next to the servers. 

I don't live anywhere near the servers.

[Lunar Ronin]

Just now, JayboH said:

Yeah I've never seen it NOT do this.

 

If Rudra is correct then it must be nice living right next to the servers.  If this is correct then I was hoping there could be a better way of loading it because it shows that the code is resummoning them all individually with each powerup.

 

I am beginning to wonder if it is a Thugs issue, specifically.

[Rudra]

4 minutes ago, JayboH said:

Watch the Thugs part.

I watched the Thugs. And I could only see differences on the big guy. (I don't have a Thugs MM, so not sure what their upgrades look like.) And the big guy went through two visuals each time he appeared. Which tells me his upgrades are being applied without his having to be respawned. So I have absolutely no clue what is going on with you. (And @Lunar Ronin.)

[JayboH]

Just now, Lunar Ronin said:

 

I am beginning to wonder if it is a Thugs issue, specifically.

The Ninjas do it in the video as well.  

 

Tested some others-  

  

 

Beasts instead instantly cast their buffs all over again regardless of how long it has been.

Bots retrain on the spot.

Necro does the door thing like Ninjas and Thugs do.

[JayboH]

31 minutes ago, Rudra said:

I watched the Thugs. And I could only see differences on the big guy. (I don't have a Thugs MM, so not sure what their upgrades look like.) And the big guy went through two visuals each time he appeared. Which tells me his upgrades are being applied without his having to be respawned. So I have absolutely no clue what is going on with you. (And @Lunar Ronin.)

Can you show what it looks like 

[Rudra]

6 minutes ago, JayboH said:

The Ninjas do it in the video as well.  

 

Tested some others-  

  

 

Beasts instead instantly cast their buffs all over again regardless of how long it has been.

Bots retrain on the spot.

Necro does the door thing like Ninjas and Thugs do.

Haven't watched your new video, but in the previous video, for ninjas, I watch their stance and masks. And in that video, they were appearing every time already in ninja stance wearing their masks. So they were appearing every time already fully upgraded.

[Rudra]

13 minutes ago, JayboH said:

Can you show what it looks like 

Went to make a demorecording for you, and my ninjas entered the mission three times this time....

 

Bear in mind they were fully upgraded each time, but yeah, today they entered the mission three times.

[JayboH]

4 hours ago, Rudra said:

Went to make a demorecording for you, and my ninjas entered the mission three times this time....

 

Bear in mind they were fully upgraded each time, but yeah, today they entered the mission three times.

Yeah it was like this way before the shutdown.  I hope that is something that could be looked at.  It feels like a hamfisted way of retaining the pet retraining buffs when zoning.  Perhaps there is a more elegant way of addressing it with decent code.

 

As stated, this CAN impact player performance.

 

It reminds me how players would double bubble themselves when zoning, stacking protection because of these kinds of issues.