Rad/Fire/Pyre Farmer - suggestions please!

[Mageman]

I have a Rad/Fire/Mu Brute and a Spines/Fire/Mu Brute farmers (one on each of my two accounts). I was playing and I thought about having a Fire/Fire/Pyre brute as a farmer - and using Mids Reborn I found that the Fire/ doesn't have many PBAoE damage like Rad/ or Spines/ - which will probably be not as good a farmer.

 

So I started thinking about changing my Rad/Fire from /Mu Mastery to /Pyre Mastery and I like the idea - I don't use Summon Stalker in Mu Mastery, so with /Pyre I get 3 attacks instead of 2. I would appreciate your suggestions on improving this build. Note - I dropped vengeance  so I could take Super Speed for a travel power and slotted Prestige Power Slide with a +Stealth for doing missions when leveling. Here is my completed build:

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Radiation Melee
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Radioactive Smash        SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(5), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(11)
Level 1:    Fire Shield            Ags-ResDam(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(7), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 2:    Blazing Aura            SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(15)
Level 4:    Super Speed            BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 6:    Fusion                GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(A), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(17), GssSynFr--Build%(17)
Level 8:    Healing Flames            Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(19), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(19), Prv-Heal/Rchg(21), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(21), Prv-Absorb%(23)
Level 10:    Boxing                Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Hct-Acc/Rchg(25), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Hct-Dam%(27)
Level 12:    Taunt                MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(48), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(48), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(48), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(50), MckBrt-Rchg(50)
Level 14:    Tough                GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 16:    Plasma Shield            Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Ags-ResDam(29)
Level 18:    Irradiated Ground        Obl-Acc/Rchg(A), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Obl-%Dam(31), AchHee-ResDeb%(33)
Level 20:    Consume                MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(33), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(33), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(34), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(34), MckBrt-Rchg(34)
Level 22:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 24:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 26:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 28:    Burn                Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Rchg(36), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Arm-Dam%(37), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(37)
Level 30:    Assault                EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32:    Atom Smasher            SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprBrtFur-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprBrtFur-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprBrtFur-Rech/Fury(40), AchHee-ResDeb%(40)
Level 35:    Fiery Embrace            RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 38:    Ring of Fire            OvrFrc-End/Rech(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(42), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(42), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(42)
Level 41:    Fire Blast            SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(43), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(45), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(50)
Level 44:    Fire Ball            Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(45), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Rgn-Knock%(46), Ann-ResDeb%(46)
Level 47:    Temperature Protection        StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 49:    Combat Jumping            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1:    Brawl                Acc-I(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Dash        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Slide        Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Quick        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Rush        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Surge        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Fury    
Level 1:    Sprint                EndRdx-I(A)
Level 2:    Rest                RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4:    Ninja Run    
Level 2:    Swift                Run-I(A)
Level 2:    Health                Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(9)
Level 2:    Hurdle                Jump-I(A)
Level 2:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9)
Level 50:    Musculature Core Paragon    
Level 50:    Pyronic Core Final Judgement    
Level 50:    Degenerative Core Flawless Interface    
Level 50:    Ageless Core Epiphany    
Level 50:    Assault Core Embodiment    
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Edited March 23, 2020 by Mageman
Somehow, some slots were empty, I had to redo them.

[HelenCarnate]

You get 1 aoe instead of 2. Mu is better for farming. 

[Mageman]

  On 3/27/2020 at 5:24 PM, HelenCarnate said:

You get 1 aoe instead of 2. Mu is better for farming. 

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What are you talking about? With Pyre Mastery, you get Fire Cages, Fire Blast, and Fire Ball. That's 3 AoEs instead of the 2 in Mu Mastery at the expense of losing a pet.

[Mageman]

  On 3/27/2020 at 5:24 PM, HelenCarnate said:

You get 1 aoe instead of 2. Mu is better for farming. 

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Unless you're talking about Fire/ instead of Rad/ or Spines/ - I know that Fire Melee has fewer AoEs, that's why I didn't create one..

[Hopestar]

  On 3/28/2020 at 4:42 AM, Mageman said:

What are you talking about? With Pyre Mastery, you get Fire Cages, Fire Blast, and Fire Ball. That's 3 AoEs instead of the 2 in Mu Mastery at the expense of losing a pet.

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You get:
Ring of Fire - ST
Char - ST
Fire Blast - ST, Awfully named since we all understand a Blast should be AoE, so I understand the confusion.
Melt Armor - AoE but no damage and only accepts 2 damage procs.
Fire Ball - AoE

So effectively only 1 AoE at the expense of 3 slots instead of 2 necessary.

Edited March 28, 2020 by Hopestar

[Mageman]

Yes, I thought Fire Blast was an AoE based on the name.

Ring of Fire - I was thinking Fire Cages (AoE immobilize) since Mu has Electrifying Fences (which is an AoE immobilize).

Now that I understand this, I agree that Mu is better than Pyre. I would love Fire/Fire/Pyre brute if it made a better farmer. Oh well.

[SeraphimKensai]

The best farmer money can buy is a rad/fire/mu brute.

[Mageman]

  On 4/2/2020 at 6:54 PM, SeraphimKensai said:

The best farmer money can buy is a rad/fire/mu brute.

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I have a vet level 60 Spines/Fire/Mu brute and a vet level 30 Rad/Fire/Mu brute for farming. Personally, I prefer the Spines/ over the Rad/ brute. This could be because the Rad/ doesn't have all the incarnates yet and still doesn't have all the best I/Os.

 

I would have thought that a Fire/Fire/Pyre brute would be about the same, but Fire/ doesn't have enough PBAoEs and AoEs and /Pyre doesn't have as many AoEs that /Mu does.  Too bad, I would have liked to have something that's all fire and close to as good instead of mix and match to get the best. Unfortunately, Fire/Fire/Pyre brute isn't even close to the other two.

Edited April 20, 2020 by Mageman
Minor clarification.

[SeraphimKensai]

  On 4/20/2020 at 2:45 AM, Mageman said:

Personally, I prefer the Spines/ over the Rad/ brute. This could be because the Rad/ doesn't have all the incarnates yet and still doesn't have all the best I/Os.

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Once the rad/fire is fully built it definitely overtakes the spines/fire, especially if you're running a map with Elite Bosses as you have another potential source of -resistance to apply which spines can't make up for. Also the casting time for atom smasher is quicker than spine burst, plus with the contamination aspect, you can get a reasonable chunk of extra AoE damage built into the rotation.

 

That said the differences aren't going to turn a 4 minute run in arc 125 into a 3 minute run, but become significantly more noticeable on the larger/longer maps with EBs in them.

[Rylas]

As someone that resisted changing away from Rad/Fire/Pyre, I can tell you that Rad/Fire/Mu is definitely faster. I ate plenty of crow once I gave it a try. The four AoE's (Ball Lightning, Burn, Elec Fences and Atom Smasher – cycled in that order) on a high perma Hasten build turn out way more DPS.