/Thermal

[Bropine]

I need some advice. I have created a Robots MM that's theme (and name) is fire-based. I want to pick Thermal Radiation for the secondary powerset, because it fits his theme and backstory better; but I want a MM that can solo well all the way up to max level. I love grouping as well, just like to play in short time chunks a lot. Everything I'm reading seems to indicate that /dark, /traps, and /time are awesome secondaries for Bots.

 

Can thermal be "really good"? Even if not the most powerful secondary? I really don't have to be "the most optimal", but I can't stand gimping a character either.

[Adeon Hawkwood]

It should be fine. The reason those sets are preferred for Bots is that they provide Defense and To hit debuffs which stack well with the shields from the protector bots to stop your bots getting hit. Since Thermal is a resistance based set it doesn't stack as well, but it's a strong MM secondary overall so it should be fine.

 

The main piece of advice I would give is to pick up the resistance aura IOs as soon as possible. If you slot all three you'll be putting an extra 30% resistance on your bots which will stack well with the thermal buffs.

[Dixa]

so it's like this - I know people have themes. concepts they want to use. but this is the reality. your pets have almost no health. at 50 your boss pet won't even break 1k health. they can't take a hit, even with resist shielding from sonic or thermal.

 

thermal is an excellent teaming secondary, but for soloing as an mm is not a good choice.

 

the really good soloing choices are not necessarily all that hot for teaming.

[Adeon Hawkwood]

thermal is an excellent teaming secondary, but for soloing as an mm is not a good choice.

I disagree. I played a Demons/Thermal quite a bit back in the day and it was fine for soloing, on par with my Bots/Traps. Now Bots/Thermal is probably slightly weaker than either of those specific combos but it should be fine for soloing.

[Dixa]

thermal is an excellent teaming secondary, but for soloing as an mm is not a good choice.

I disagree. I played a Demons/Thermal quite a bit back in the day and it was fine for soloing, on par with my Bots/Traps. Now Bots/Thermal is probably slightly weaker than either of those specific combos but it should be fine for soloing.

 

yeah, no. don't make that claim. you can't do this with /thermal.

 

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resists on pets is not as helpful as softcapping their defense - and yours - because their health is extremely low and best your combo gets them is about 50% to some resists. they will still die to one hit from a +3 or higher boss.

 

maybe some of you enjoy replacing pets on cooldown. I do not.

[scran]

Depending on primary, you get about 26% resistance to some resists, some pets having both S/L (bots have L/Cold/Psi). with special ios giving 35% and fire giving 22, thats more than enough to get to the 75% cap.

[desarix]

Wow @Dixa those are some really good caps.