Jack Power Posted August 30, 2020 Posted August 30, 2020 I must be the worst at searching through these forum threads or is it just that there is something wrong with SD/axe for a tank. When I build a character I have an idea followed with a costume. Then it's picking powersets. That's where I ground to a halt. I think it's that I see some value in all power choises and can't figure out what to cut, be it for optimal slotting or to patch build holes with pool powers. Do you have a build idea for a scrappy SD/axe tank with good survivability and a slotting that won't break the bank? All the best, Jack "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.” ― Groucho Marx
ninja surprise Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 For a quick and easy/cheap start, begin here just replacing the dark melee with Axe attacks. It'll be a super cheap soft-cap build then you have the flexibility of adding Luck of the Gamblers +Rech and 5-slotted Red Fortunes in your Def powers to get more recharge. And then after level 50 putting in purples and stuff.
Metauphoria Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 I put this together. No Purples of any kind. It has maxed defenses for Ranged and Melee, nearly maxed AOE. Resistances are lower than you can get with purples, but it should be generally survivable especially if you have any kind of resist buffs. Hope it helps. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Natural TankerPrimary Power Set: Shield DefenseSecondary Power Set: Battle AxePower Pool: FlightPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(7), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(9), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(9), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), RedFrt-EndRdx(11)Level 1: Beheader -- GldStr-Acc/Dmg(A), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(29), GldStr-%Dam(33), GldStr-Acc/End/Rech(34), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech(36)Level 2: Battle Agility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-EndRdx(3), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(3), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(5), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(5), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(7)Level 4: Gash -- GldStr-Acc/Dmg(A), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech(37), GldStr-Acc/End/Rech(37), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(39), GldStr-%Dam(39)Level 6: True Grit -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-RechRes(25), GldArm-RechEnd(25), GldArm-Res/Rech/End(27), GldArm-ResDam(27), GldArm-3defTpProc(29)Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(17), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(19), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), RedFrt-EndRdx(21)Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Acc/Rchg(A)Level 12: Phalanx Fighting -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(13), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(13), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(15), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), RedFrt-EndRdx(17)Level 14: Fly -- Flight-I(A)Level 16: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 18: Grant Cover -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), Rct-ResDam%(23), Ksm-ToHit+(23)Level 20: Whirling Axe -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(40), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Obl-%Dam(40), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)Level 22: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 24: Boxing -- GldStr-%Dam(A)Level 26: Shield Charge -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(34), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(45), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Obl-%Dam(46)Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(31), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Max HP%(33)Level 32: One with the Shield -- Empty(A)Level 35: Cleave -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(36), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Obl-%Dam(50), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50)Level 38: Pendulum -- ScrDrv-Dam%(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(46), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Obl-%Dam(48)Level 41: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(42), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(42), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFrt-EndRdx(43)Level 44: Build Up -- GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(A)Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)Level 49: Physical Perfection -- PrfShf-End%(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1453;641;1282;HEX;| |78DA65544B73D25018BD8150E455A014696DB1F22CCF00B67B4785D63E703A53C72| |DC3D82B3066D20A712CBAF257B874E5C685FFACB64E5B1F0B8D5FF29D3238640827| |39F7DE73CEF7E526EDD366F0EBF6870742093ED6BBA351E759D7782587DEA75DF3C| |DB0AB0BFBF0D29964BED3942FA53192DA617F20F5A39BDB0446DB5297527BD4354D| |5D761E9ECAE88ED197436998DACD45E0E0F858D7B6F441AF6F86F8DABE1C18BDFFE| |FFCCEDDE1899447B1D6C9E085D632E4B037EEB4BB23530EC74B1429476733447F8A| |1DD2F288385D345431E767BC15000619FD216098F1CC277058AAC8B81D6E759DF15| |E81319567CCE4185BE4A7C04F819F0B7A2EF8AAF055E13B07DF73F273C3CF0DBF2C| |74B3F0C9C33F0FFF2DF2F3C0CFD3606E6913B8C178A70EACA186FB8C3E7A6E5EACF| |5226B04191790710119179171D1AE25A98A0BCACAEDB184EFB5CB19DBA12C01E805| |A017845E107AF3D09B875E04BD09509610F44219E170DB4484C185CBCCED121765C| |E15DDE33A6E5F02FF0827DB25058BF11C4FEC3DAFCBBF635C1F03DF0205AF2D595C| |C313D28F3B0FD012F114CF51285B023912E8FB1ECD5B86C7323C52D0ACC0AB02AF0| |AB4ABF04A93DE0AF74959415D29A09BC692E861F28AE7DFBD06FE00FEC41EFC05FC| |CDB84F99D69073CDA2435C5127D2489946CA0CD265902E8BD40DA46BFCE5B4D73E7| |E83ECB539ACAD626D156B6AD0A8A1C21A3454AAA2802A0AD80945EC84227642113B| |A1849D50C24EF84EBE655451FECCBA9F4856634ED1D0A906F00B555D672F51FFC8F| |357D5C99B4B3FBB134575F21DB04A33A3F519A631C36CCC309B33CCFE0C73A0C296| |18C5617C91C95B6E9DF9275F0BA154B99EF369EE39F7E4DB3457E07917D31CEAFE0| |7C131D7E1| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Jack Power Posted September 1, 2020 Author Posted September 1, 2020 Thank you both for the ideas! Now I have something to work from. //Jack "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.” ― Groucho Marx
Yomo Kimyata Posted September 1, 2020 Posted September 1, 2020 18 hours ago, ninja surprise said: to get more recharge. Throw a Force Feedback +rech in Pendulum and you will not regret it. 1 Who run Bartertown?
Jack Power Posted September 2, 2020 Author Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Yomo Kimyata said: Throw a Force Feedback +rech in Pendulum and you will not regret it. In place of one of the Sciroccos? Save the +RES from the Oblits and give up the +ACC? Looking at Metauphorias build above. //Jack Edited September 2, 2020 by Jack Power "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.” ― Groucho Marx
Yomo Kimyata Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Jack Power said: In place of one of the Sciroccos? Save the +RES from the Oblits and give up the +ACC? Looking at Metauphorias build above. //Jack I haven't examined the full build, but I would drop the Scirocco proc I think. You'd have to ask one of the proc experts if that would increase or decrease your DPS, but I've found that the +rech triggers like mad. Happy hunting! Who run Bartertown?
Nemu Posted September 2, 2020 Posted September 2, 2020 You don't need hasten. The great thing about Axe is that you can throw in a FF +recharge proc in every attack. The higher AT modifier means you can really go proc heavy for higher budget builds. You can get pretty good stats across the board even with a budget build. The hardest stat to raise without dipping into winter IO sets is -recharge resist and you can get up to 70% without which is not bad. Here is a budget build with no purples, no winter IO sets, no PVP IOs, You have sturdy numbers across the board, Endurance management can be an issue with all the obliterations so I took body mastery. Energy torrent is a great opener and it's more knockdown to complement all your other knockdowns. If you can't afford LOTGs you can easily swap them out with other defense IOs or even SOs and it won't impact your numbers too much except for recharge, but that's where the FF procs come in. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic TankerPrimary Power Set: Shield DefenseSecondary Power Set: Battle AxePower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Deflection -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(3), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(3), UnbGrd-Max HP%(5), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(9), LucoftheG-Def(34)Level 1: Beheader -- PlvFst-Acc/Dmg(A), PlvFst-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), PlvFst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11), PndSlg-Acc/Dmg(13), PndSlg-Dmg/EndRdx(13), PndSlg-Stun%(15)Level 2: Battle Agility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(5), LucoftheG-Def(7), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(7)Level 4: Gash -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg(15), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx(19), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21)Level 6: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(9)Level 8: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), WntGif-ResSlow(31), LucoftheG-Def(40)Level 12: Phalanx Fighting -- Ksm-ToHit+(A)Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 16: Build Up -- EncAcc-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(A), EncAcc-ToHit/Rchg(17), GssSynFr--Build%(17), RechRdx-I(46)Level 18: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 20: Whirling Axe -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(23), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(23), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(31), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), ScrDrv-Dam%(33)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(34)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def(25), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25), Rct-ResDam%(45)Level 26: Shield Charge -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Obl-Dmg(27), Obl-Acc/Rchg(27), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(29), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 28: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 30: Taunt -- Empty(A)Level 32: True Grit -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), ResDam-I(37), ResDam-I(39), Heal-I(39), Heal-I(39)Level 35: Cleave -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Obl-Dmg(36), Obl-Acc/Rchg(36), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 38: Pendulum -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Obl-Dmg(40), Obl-Acc/Rchg(40), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)Level 44: Physical Perfection -- SynSck-EndMod(A), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(45), SynSck-Dam/Rech(45)Level 47: Energy Torrent -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Bmbdmt-Dam(48), Bmbdmt-Acc/Rech/End(48), Bmbdmt-Dam/Rech(48), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech(50), Bmbdmt-Acc/Dam/Rech/End(50)Level 49: One with the Shield -- ResDam-I(A), Heal-I(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: GauntletLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(43)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), SynSck-EndMod(43), SynSck-EndMod/Rech(46), SynSck-EndMod/+RunSpeed(46)------------ Liberty, Torchbearer, Excelsior, Everlasting Jezebel Delias Level 50 Fire/Elec/Mace Blaster I am the Inner Circle!
Jack Power Posted September 3, 2020 Author Posted September 3, 2020 Thanks for the builds. Metauphoria has slightly lower DEF but higher RES. And Nemu has slightly higher DEF but lower RES. Guess Nemus build wins out on higher HP, regen, END Rec and probably recharge. Thanks for the effort guys! //Jack "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well I have others.” ― Groucho Marx
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