Task/Strike force mission length

[Grouchybeast]

5 hours ago, CursedSorcerer said:

I can see a few missions that can be cut:

 

The second and third power substation missions and the first and second warehouse mission.

 

Synapse Task Force - Unofficial Homecoming Wiki (cityofheroes.dev)

My Synapse proposal is to cut out missions 3-11 and then do whatever text surgery is necessary to join the rest together.  That gets rid of four kill alls, two patrols, two talkies and a defeat boss.  It leaves six missions, one of which is a talkie, including the nice unique maps and the optional Babbage encounter.

Edited December 16, 2020 by Grouchybeast

[Eva Destruction]

6 hours ago, Ironblade said:

This sort of already exists.

 

When the task forces were originally created, there were no Reward Merits.  When the merit system was added later, the devs datamined how long it took to run each task force and strike force and assigned the merit rewards accordingly.  So, if you've run one task force and another gives slightly more merits, it should take slightly longer.

 

Having said that, we didn't have so many fancy travel powers when they assigned the merits so some of them (Dr Q) now give an excessive number of merits compared to how fast we can actually complete them.

 

P.S.  I *THINK* the devs said that they scaled the system to award one merit per 3-1/2 minutes of effort.

In theory, but the merit rewards were set many updates ago and most were never tweaked, unless someone figured out some massive shortcuts like with Katie and Eden.

 

IIRC, they also made the merit rewards for longer tfs higher than the time to completion would suggest they should be, to encourage people to put up with the slog.

 

DR Q doesn't give an excessive number of merits considering how tedious and pointless it is.   I can get merits anywhere, but every Dr Q is 2-3 hours of my life that I'll never get back.  It's still a do it once for the badge and never again TF.

[drbuzzard]

18 hours ago, wjrasmussen said:

You like to play a game you think it tedious?  why are you playing if you think it is tedious?

I know this is a complicated response, but I'll try to keep it simple.

 

That's 2 task forces named out of the whole game. I am not required to do those task forces and I don't do them because they are tedious. Other parts of the game are not tedious, so I enjoy it.

 

I hope that was simple enough.

[Ironblade]

14 hours ago, Eva Destruction said:

In theory, but the merit rewards were set many updates ago and most were never tweaked, unless someone figured out some massive shortcuts like with Katie and Eden.

Actually, the tweak for Katie was to change the task force so you are required to defeat Katie 10 times to complete it.  No more exiting the mission and letting it fail.

 

14 hours ago, Eva Destruction said:

DR Q doesn't give an excessive number of merits considering how tedious and pointless it is.   I can get merits anywhere, but every Dr Q is 2-3 hours of my life that I'll never get back.  It's still a do it once for the badge and never again TF.

I run it every so often when it comes around for double merits.  I start it with my girlfriend and then solo all but the final mission while she's at work.

[wjrasmussen]

2 hours ago, drbuzzard said:

I know this is a complicated response, but I'll try to keep it simple.

 

That's 2 task forces named out of the whole game. I am not required to do those task forces and I don't do them because they are tedious. Other parts of the game are not tedious, so I enjoy it.

 

I hope that was simple enough.

So you do have all those other non-tedious ones to run?

[drbuzzard]

2 minutes ago, wjrasmussen said:

So you do have all those other non-tedious ones to run?

Good to see you're keeping up.

 

That doesn't mean we need to keep tedious ones.

 

Also, if you were not aware, they keep the tedious versions in Ouro whey they update TFs.