Rustbeltcomics Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 I won't bore you with my obsessive desire to make Stormcloud2, based of my earth/storm controller from live viable but here is my 21st version. I tend to play like a melee character and have been playing my scrapper, brutes, and tankers while she sits waiting for a full IO build. I have tried many combinations but here is what I want to get out of her. 1. No endurance issues and the ability to let lose with all the great control powers she has. Yes, I want to overkill things 2. Damage would be nice but she will never be a blaster 3. Survivability is key as I know I have low hit points and want to be able to get into some melee action. I have tried the Earth epic pool but feel she needs to max out S/L resistance while still having defenses high to both melee and range 4. Could she ever be a fire or S/L farmer? I would love to see her be able to do +4/8 and have the budget now that I have three farmers to afford most anything she would need 5. I love knockdown and know I have more control then I will ever need. I like to have different play styles for each time I play her. Sometimes I just like pushing stuff around with hurricane. Other times I like getting into melee range to finish off someone that is held. I am not much of a sit back and blast away type of player. So I may have bored you anyway. Sorry about that, on to build 21. Feedback appreciated. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.2.19https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Stormcloud2: Level 50 Magic ControllerPrimary Power Set: Earth ControlSecondary Power Set: Storm SummoningPower Pool: Force of WillPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Fire Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fossilize -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(3), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(7), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(9)Level 1: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(5), FrcFdb-Rechg%(13)Level 2: Stone Cages -- EnfOpr-Acc/Rchg(A), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(29), EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(31), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob(34), EnfOpr-Acc/EndRdx(42), EnfOpr-Immob/Rng(50)Level 4: Mighty Leap -- Jump(A)Level 6: Project Will -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dam%(7), Dcm-Build%(9)Level 8: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 10: Steamy Mist -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(11), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(11), RedFrt-Def(15), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(19), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)Level 14: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(42), UnbGrd-ResDam(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(46), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)Level 16: O2 Boost -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), Prv-Absorb%(29)Level 18: Wall of Force -- Ann-Acc/Dmg(A), Ann-Dmg/Rchg(21), Ann-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), Ann-ResDeb%(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(48)Level 20: Hurricane -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 22: Stalagmites -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), PstBls-Dam%(43)Level 24: Freezing Rain -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), TchofLadG-DefDeb/Rchg(33)Level 26: Volcanic Gasses -- SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(A), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(27), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprOvrPrs-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(33), SprOvrPrs-EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(43)Level 28: Earthquake -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A)Level 30: Weave -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), ShlWal-Def(31), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(31), ShlWal-Def/Rchg(46)Level 32: Animate Stone -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(34), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(36)Level 35: Tornado -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), SlbAll-Build%(37), SlbAll-Dmg(37), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(37), SlbAll-Dmg/EndRdx(39)Level 38: Lightning Storm -- SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(A), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(40), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)Level 41: Fire Ball -- Rgn-Knock%(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(50), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(13), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(19)Level 44: Fire Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(48), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 47: Unleash Potential -- EndMod-I(A)Level 49: Snow Storm -- PcnoftheT--Rchg%(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Containment Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Heal(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(23), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(23), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(45), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(45)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(17)Level 50: Ageless Core Invocation Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Diamagnetic Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Support Core Embodiment Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon ------------
Rustbeltcomics Posted May 26, 2021 Author Posted May 26, 2021 Thank you very much for all of your time and well written feedback. I’ll check out the builds later tonight. You are correct that I know I need to better focus my goals for this alt. I had a range def build and will decide if I want to focus on procs. I also agree I should give up on farming as I have at least three or four alts that would farm much better. Probably all off them to be honest. back to the drawing board although your builds will probably save me a lot of time and get me a fun respec.
Rustbeltcomics Posted May 26, 2021 Author Posted May 26, 2021 A few questions as I look at the second build with the s/l defense. I like this one and especially all the procs especially in frost breath. I look forward to iso g that power as you have it built. That gives some really damage when the procs hit. Questions Why the accuracy in lightning storm which already has 150% accuracy to start? I can use that a lot somewhere else I think. How good is Enflame? I don’t need it as a third power in the pool so would prefer to skip it and add snow storm or something else that would provide some occasional value. Why the two resist debuff in rain? It has -30% resist debuff to start and the procs only have a 20% chance to hit? Is there any way to get rid of all the slots on stone cages and only keep one or two accuracies in it while still finding a way to get the s\l defense up to almost 45% Great ideas that you had, let me know your additional thoughts.
Rustbeltcomics Posted May 27, 2021 Author Posted May 27, 2021 I made several changes with the biggest ones being putting the 4th slot in LoG on three defensive powers which gives me +27% to hit. I then took out some of the Invention accuracies except I kept them in Stalagmites and Gale as those have lower base accuracies and I like to start with them. I left four slots in Stone Cages because as you said it was hard to make them all up somewhere else. I was at about 45% S/L defense before adding the incarnate powers which should work well. I put a the Ragnarok: Chance for Knockdown into Frost Breath which seems like a good idea. I won't need to spam Gale as much as I like to keep stuff in some status that keeps them from hitting me. With Frost Breath up as often as ever 6 seconds Gale is starting to feel redundant. I have never had Spirt Ward but if I can use it on Animate Stone I can see the value to it even when soloing. Speaking of Animate Stone why the two defense slots? He is at an 80% resistance or so already so I always though getting him to 90% with the +10% made more sense than a small amount more of defense. Maybe some slots to save there. Would his Defense Auru for Pets also work on me if I was standing near him? I added in Super Speed as I had no travel power in the build. I will have Ageless Core Epiphany so I can run Super Speed and Hurricane together to herd when I have plenty of endurance. This is getting close and I really like not trying to get both defense and resistance capped as I need to focus more on recharge and control with lots of procs for damage. Just hard to adjust my brain to the needs of a controller which is much harder to build than any melee character. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.2.19https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ControllerPrimary Power Set: Earth ControlSecondary Power Set: Storm SummoningPower Pool: SorceryPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Ice Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fossilize -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Apc-Dam%(5), UnbCns-Dam%(7)Level 1: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7), Ann-ResDeb%(9), Acc-I(9)Level 2: Stone Cages -- EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(A), EnfOpr-Acc/EndRdx(21), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(23), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob(50)Level 4: O2 Boost -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(11)Level 6: Spirit Ward -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(11)Level 8: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Dvs-Hold%(13), Dcm-Build%(23), GldJvl-Dam%(25), ExpStr-Dam%(25)Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(27)Level 12: Stalagmites -- Acc-I(A), PstBls-Dam%(29), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(31), Ann-ResDeb%(31), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(31), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(33)Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)Level 16: Freezing Rain -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 18: Earthquake -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 20: Hurricane -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 22: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 24: Rune of Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(34), GldArm-ResDam(34)Level 26: Volcanic Gasses -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(34), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), Lck-%Hold(36), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(46)Level 28: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Rct-ResDam%(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45), LucoftheG-Def(46)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(37)Level 32: Animate Stone -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), EdcoftheM-PetDef(39), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(40)Level 35: Tornado -- SlbAll-Dmg(A), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Acc/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Build%(42), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)Level 38: Lightning Storm -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(43), Dvs-Hold%(43), GldJvl-Dam%(43), ExpStr-Dam%(45)Level 41: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), LucoftheG-Def(50)Level 47: Frost Breath -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), ImpSwf-Dam%(48), JvlVll-Dam%(48), PstBls-Dam%(48), Rgn-Knock%(50)Level 49: Ice Storm -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15), Pnc-Heal/+End(17), Prv-Absorb%(17)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(19), PwrTrns-EndMod(19), PwrTrns-+Heal(21)Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Portal Jockey Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: The Atlas Medallion Level 50: Vorpal Radial Final Judgement Level 50: Vanguard Core Superior Ally Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon Level 50: Support Core Embodiment ------------
Rustbeltcomics Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 So here is the build I have been running which is working out great. With Hurricane going I still have all the endurance I need. I was running the Cimmera Nictus TF with a team and got some nice compliments that I was running StormCloud2 the way a stormie should be run. We had a good time. I am already thinking about a respec though as I miss getting up close and personal and wonder if I can run with 40% S/L defense. So first my current build which works very well if you like staying at range and running hurricane. This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.2.19https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ControllerPrimary Power Set: Earth ControlSecondary Power Set: Storm SummoningPower Pool: SorceryPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Ice Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fossilize -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Apc-Dam%(5), UnbCns-Dam%(7)Level 1: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7), Acc-I(9), JvlVll-Dam%(9), PstBls-Dam%(13), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(46)Level 2: Stone Cages -- EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(A), EnfOpr-Acc/EndRdx(21), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob/Rchg(23), EnfOpr-Acc/Immob(37)Level 4: O2 Boost -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(11)Level 6: Spirit Ward -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(11)Level 8: Arcane Bolt -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), Dcm-Build%(23), GldJvl-Dam%(25), ExpStr-Dam%(25), Apc-Dmg(34), GldJvl-Acc/Dmg(40)Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(27)Level 12: Stalagmites -- AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(A), PstBls-Dam%(29), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(31), Ann-ResDeb%(31), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(31), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(33)Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)Level 16: Freezing Rain -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 18: Earthquake -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 20: Hurricane -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 22: Super Speed -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 24: Rune of Protection -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(34)Level 26: Volcanic Gasses -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(34), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(36), Lck-%Hold(36)Level 28: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Rct-ResDam%(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45), LucoftheG-Def(46)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 32: Animate Stone -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SlbAll-Dmg/EndRdx(39)Level 35: Tornado -- SlbAll-Dmg(A), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Acc/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Build%(42), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)Level 38: Lightning Storm -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(43), PrfShf-End%(43), GldJvl-Dam%(43), ExpStr-Dam%(45)Level 41: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), LucoftheG-Def(50)Level 47: Frost Breath -- Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(A), ImpSwf-Dam%(48), JvlVll-Dam%(48), PstBls-Dam%(48), Rgn-Knock%(50), Rgn-Dmg(50)Level 49: Ice Storm -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15), Pnc-Heal/+End(17), Prv-Absorb%(17), Prv-Heal(19), NmnCnv-Heal(21)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(19)Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Portal Jockey Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: The Atlas Medallion Level 50: Vorpal Radial Final Judgement Level 50: Vanguard Core Superior Ally Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon Level 50: Support Core Embodiment ------------ And now my new potential build where I will be relying on powers that slow and hold and getting into melee range as my finishing move. I like that I was able to get Stone Mastery back in as my Epic pool and still have plenty of powers that with procs now do decent damage. So if I can get by with a little less defense which seems likely since most of my attacks have -5% To Hit debuffs I should be able to do more damage while having more HP and a great occasional large heal from Hoarfrost. Any thoughts? This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.2.19https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ControllerPrimary Power Set: Earth ControlSecondary Power Set: Storm SummoningPower Pool: Force of WillPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fossilize -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Apc-Dam%(5), SprEnt-Rchg/AbsorbProc(5), EntChs-Heal%(7)Level 1: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(7), Acc-I(9)Level 2: Stone Cages -- Acc-I(A)Level 4: Mighty Leap -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)Level 6: Project Will -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), EntChs-Heal%(23), ExpStr-Dam%(25), Dcm-Build%(25), Apc-Dmg(34), Dmg-I(40)Level 8: Weaken Resolve -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(9), ShlBrk-%Dam(11), CldSns-%Dam(11)Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(13), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(15), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27)Level 12: Stalagmites -- AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(A), PstBls-Dam%(29), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(31), Ann-ResDeb%(31), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(31), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(33)Level 14: Wall of Force -- Rgn-Dmg(A), PstBls-Dam%(19), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(21), FrcFdb-Rechg%(21), ExpStr-Dam%(23), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(27)Level 16: Freezing Rain -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 18: Earthquake -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), ExpStr-Dam%(33), TchofLadG-%Dam(34)Level 20: Hurricane -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 22: Unleash Potential -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 24: Quicksand -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A)Level 26: Volcanic Gasses -- UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg(A), UnbCns-Hold(34), GldNet-Dam%(36), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(36), UnbCns-Dam%(36), UnbCns-Hold/Rchg(37)Level 28: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Rct-ResDam%(33), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), LucoftheG-Def(46)Level 30: Snow Storm -- ImpSwf-Dam%(A)Level 32: Animate Stone -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(37), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(39), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(39)Level 35: Tornado -- SlbAll-Build%(A), SlbAll-Dmg(40), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SlbAll-Dmg/EndRdx(42), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42)Level 38: Fissure -- AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(A), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(43), PstBls-Dam%(45), ExpStr-Dam%(46)Level 41: Seismic Smash -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(43), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(48), Hct-Dam%(50)Level 44: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(45), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 47: Earth's Embrace -- Heal-I(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(48), Heal-I(48)Level 49: Lightning Storm -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), PrfShf-End%(50)Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(15), Pnc-Heal/+End(17), Prv-Absorb%(17)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(19)Level 50: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 50: Portal Jockey Level 50: Task Force Commander Level 50: The Atlas Medallion Level 50: Vorpal Radial Final Judgement Level 50: Vanguard Core Superior Ally Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon Level 50: Support Core Embodiment Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface ------------
Doomguide2005 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 I'll start by saying 5099y_74c05's advice is very solid throughout. Next I'm going to tell you my Earth/Storm/Stone (two on Live, one here on HC) are what The Mighty Storm back on the Live forums called the Diso Queen and they thrive in melee range. Defenses on mine are incidental (and TMS was a pre IO forumite). Most of the mitigation comes from mezzing the spawn from the start on the Alpha and then keeping them that way. The Diso comes from disorient and the build uses 3 AoE (2 PBAoE hence the living in melee) stuns -> Stalagmites are the preferred opening stun, then the much maligned Thunderclap followed by Fissure with other attacks mixed in as needed especially Stone Cages to keep them from staggering all about. Rocky, LS, Tornado and Seismic Smash do the heavy lifting. My computer died before I could start working with procs in the build and likewise I can't post a build as I have only this phone for internet. The builds are all about recharge, keeping them mezzed, stunned in particular, and has a lot of stealth built in (SS+Steamy Mist+IO). But it is a fun, very aggressive up close in your face playstyle I'd recommend trying if you tend to favor playing everything like it was a Scrapper or Brute. 1
Rustbeltcomics Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 Hum, You are correct that Thunderclap is much maligned but your play style melds with mine nicely. Would I even need thunderclap given my high recharge and use of three other knockdown powers? I was thinking about using Volcanic Gasses more as it can be powerful but I’m not sure if the best way to a lot it. I had heard somewhere that damage procs work great in it but is that true. I also found some slots by not keeping damage procs in Gale. They just don’t seem to hit more often than the 5% minimum so an extra 40 damage every 3rd or 4th activation doesn’t seem worth it. I’m also of the opinion that with all the control and -acc means the typical build idea of soft capping S/L defenses is overkill. So what is a good level 50 attack chain? I’m thinking Freezing rain, stalagmites, and stone cages followed by Wall of force. Put up a lightning bolt and tornado on myself and Then fossilize anything that was missed and seismic smash them until they are dead. Now that I have some damage procs in earthquake and volcanic gasses perhaps I need to build them into my rotation more often. Fissure feels like it is redundant and thunderclap even more so but I will need to look at my actual in game recharges. I don’t think I will ever have the perfect earth/storm controller build but I’m enjoying the journey and that is all that matters. Thanks again for the feedback.
Rustbeltcomics Posted June 9, 2021 Author Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) I also would imagine that quicksand and /or snowstorm would make it easy to dance around with stealth on and attack stunned mobs or unstunned mobs that either can’t see you or can’t move fast enough to catch you. My revised defense is still 40% and I can often click unleash potential or earths embrace if I get into any trouble. Edited June 9, 2021 by Rustbeltcomics
Doomguide2005 Posted June 9, 2021 Posted June 9, 2021 I think regardless of what playstyle an Earth controller adopts Stalagmites is almost always going to be the go to opener when in direct LoS of the foes. It's a full mag 3 targeted AoE stun and although it roots and has a longish animation time it also has a very fast time before effect (0.773 sec) . It'll stun them almost immediately upon activating the power. At that point, outside of misses, all the minions and Lts will be stunned. Bosses effected by "Overpower" will also be stunned. Now Earth excels at placing patches from around a corner or otherwise behind cover. So I'll often open with QS, EQ or VG. Then I pop out and fire off Stalagmites (where because they're already aggro'd that fast time before effect becomes even more important). Freezing Rain is also commonly used for this behind cover. Often after I do this Rocky and/or Tornado also get into the act and unless I end up leading the charge hopefully teammates are also into the fray by now spreading the aggro and return fire over multiple allies. I use Stealth for several things. First couple are pretty obvious and straightforward. First simply bypassing mobs I dont want to fight to get to the mission objective. Second is recon, moving around freely to spot troublesome mobs i.e. Sappers or due to map layout mobs that may get aggro'd and turn into adds. I also use Stealth to 'drag' Rocky or Tornado into a mob when I want or need them to get things started. I wouldn't personally skip TC but I'd also almost never use it alone or first. It's only going to take out minions itself and unlike Stalagmites could lead to getting smacked before the effect kicks in. On the other hand its mag 2 combined with Stalagmites mag 3 is going to stun pretty much everything outside of EBs and AVs with triangles up etc.. It will neuter the mobs. Fissure isn't a 100% chance to stun (in fact it has chances for both a mag 1 and mag 2) and is a smaller radius but damage, procs, kd, etc. makes it good for keeping the pressure on (and it also activates and fires quickly). I don't tend to use Snow Storm primarily because I do have QS but yeah dragging and bunching them can be very usefully done with QS. Life calls back later.
VV Posted June 10, 2021 Posted June 10, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 9:47 PM, Rustbeltcomics said: So here is the build I have been running which is working out great. With Hurricane going I still have all the endurance I need. Um... why in the world would you be running Hurricane all the time, especially without the KB>KD proc? Hurricane is only needed as an OHSHEET power. When the Scrapper runs off and aggros 3 extra groups then dies. When the tank forgets their toggles and dies. When you get beset by 3 ambushes at once. You need some breathing room, only then do you need Hurricane. For normal running with a team, you should not need it. By not running it, you allow yourself to get up close and personal, like you want. You also minimize the risk of screwing up combat. Not to mention that many people cannot see through Hurricane. Earth/Storm has way more than enough control to keep you safe in most circumstances. You generally don't need maxed out anything armor-wise to keep you going. Get those bad guys flopping and/or locked, and you could run around naked and be safe. 5 hours ago, 5099y_74c05 said: Slow effects could work too if you throw out FR + QS + SS but you are looking at 7 secs of cast time before you even attack. FR and QS can be cast out of LoS but SS requires LoS if I recall correctly. My point is you can reduce this to 2 unsafe seconds which is still a long time to spend casting in the open after you've riled up the hornet's nest. Not exactly. You can proc the heck out of FR, which is a nice start. Also, FR does KD, which is another form of mitigation. If you're soloing, open with Tornado+FR+LS (slotted for KD), then it almost doesn't matter what you do. If you are running in a team, let the tank (or whatever grunt you have being your HMD) take the alpha, then step in the manage things so nobody gets hurt.
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