Is psionic common late game?

I-Dirty · September 19, 2021

Carnival and Rikti just made my stone tank their prison B**ch

I was feeling all cocky to up till that point.

holy crap i went down faster than a $5 hooker offering a $3 discount

PeregrineFalcon · September 19, 2021

Yes. Psionic damage is common in the late game.

There are IO's that you can slot that will give you defense or resistance to psionic damage.

I-Dirty · September 19, 2021

frick....time to lose the granite and make soemthing else.

PLVRIZR · September 19, 2021

2 hours ago, I-Dirty said:

Carnival and Rikti just made my stone tank their prison B**ch

Wait until you meet +4 Arachnos, as well...

As Peregrine already said, Impervium Armor (non-unique, so can use multiples) and Aegis (unique) are commonly used to beef up Stone and Invulnerability builds. You can also build a stone tank to not need granite, for all content, except in "emergencies" and Minerals is a great power, against psi.

PLVRIZR · September 19, 2021

3 minutes ago, I-Dirty said:

frick....time to lose the granite and make soemthing else.

Nah, just build it right. Here's my titular toon's stats (Stone/SS)...granite off. Many builds just like this in the "building a better non-granite stone tank" thread.

Linea · September 20, 2021

It does not take much in the way of psionic resist/defense to survive the end-game. Psionic, in general, comes in smaller less frequent packages than any other damage type. As long as you don't completely ignore it, you should be ok. It's very do-able.

siran · September 20, 2021

I would add to the comments 'its all about how you build it'. My granite is typically running at 80% (with tanker ATO) against PSI. I do the Maria Jenkins 'all diviners' at +2x8 and didn't even bother with an armour... just relying the IOed psi resist and had no problems. One orange inspiration and I'm capped.... but I never seem to need to do it....

I have a similar experience with my peacebringer. I have at about 60% psi resist (and obviously everything else is capped at 85%). One small orange and she'll go running into any psi encounter and not worry about it.

https://www.midsreborn.com/builds/download.php?uc=1540&c=718&a=1436&f=HEX&dc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

This is with one tanker ATO and no barrier (I use ageless not barrier anyway). I have of course gone overboard with defence resist... but I have another build for doing damage. There's something very nice about being in granite with all the psi damage and laughing

I-Dirty · September 21, 2021

ok here is my newest build...thanks for the advice

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Spines
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Stone Skin

(A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(25) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
(25) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 1: Barb Swipe

(A) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(3) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(3) Hecatomb - Damage
(5) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(7) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
(7) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 2: Earth's Embrace

(A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
(5) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Recharge
(31) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(34) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 4: Rock Armor

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 6: Spine Burst

(A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
(17) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(19) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(19) Armageddon - Damage
(21) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(50) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 8: Rooted

(A) Doctored Wounds - Recharge
(9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
(9) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
(11) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
(11) Doctored Wounds - Heal
(13) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge

Level 10: Mud Pots

(A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
(15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
(15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(17) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 12: Boxing

(A) Absolute Amazement - Chance for ToHit Debuff
(21) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun
(23) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
(23) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge
(42) Absolute Amazement - Stun
(45) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 14: Combat Teleport

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 16: Taunt

(A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge
(31) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage

Level 18: Ripper

(A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
(27) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
(29) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
(29) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 20: Brimstone Armor

(A) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
(43) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 22: Tough

(A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(27) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
(37) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Titanium Coating - Resistance

Level 24: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26: Build Up

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(36) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance

Level 28: Minerals

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(34) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%

Level 30: Impale

(A) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(34) Apocalypse - Damage
(37) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
(39) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(39) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 32: Granite Armor

(A) Aegis - Resistance
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(40) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
(40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance

Level 35: Quills

(A) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge
(42) Multi-Strike - Damage/Endurance
(43) Pacing of the Turtle - Accuracy/Endurance
(43) Multi-Strike - Damage/Recharge
(45) Multi-Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(45) Multi-Strike - Accuracy/Damage

Level 38: Throw Spines

(A) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
(46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
(46) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(46) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
(48) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range

Level 41: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(48) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(50) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
(50) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%

Level 44: Conserve Power

(A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 47: Physical Perfection

(A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 49: Crystal Armor

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

siran · September 21, 2021

I'd like to suggest a minor change.

In exchange for defending from psi damage you've reduced your normal defences. Smashing/Lethal/energy/negative are all 38.5%. most damage is smashing/lethal/energy. Even with an agilty alpha slot you are 43% (and you'll probably spend a lot of time at less than level 45). The difference between softcap and not soft cap is enormous. The last 1% of defence translates into 20% less damage. That 43% instead of 45% is around 40% more damage taken in exchange for a tiny bit less psi damage.. (Mind you...probably some one has manuvers if you are teaming, but i like to be 'ok' without teaming). The 38.5% instead of 45% in non incarnate content is over 100% more damage

If you replace a single impervium armor in granite and replace it with a defence/end from luck of the gambler you will just reach soft cap.Another thing I like doing in granite is not using attuned IOs but using crafted and adding +5 boosters. that makes quite a nice difference as the numbers in granite are so big. A red fortune (or other) at +5 instead of the impervium, and +5ing the defence would make a noticable difference.

It's also worth being aware that 45% isn't incarnate softcap. In the build I have above I almost reach incarnate softcap (and I have boosters not shown which nudge me closer) . The reason I like the granite form is so that I can tank incarnate content without support. I've had more than one tank crumble when going to fetch Seige in the BAF for example (willpower I am looking at you). I would like another 10% over the incarnate cap but the only way I know how to do that is with a martial arts primary or by reducing my psi resist / recharge a lot

As a stoner I have more than one build. The one I did above is my 'serious tanking' mode (I don't have taunt because that's yesterday's power...when they make taunt more effective than just hitting the baddies I'll go back to it). It's worth having a 'high damage' one as well with lots of procs and few set bonuses. The thread on 'proc rocks' is very good at talking about that with stone/SS, but a lot of it will translate into stone/spines.

Edited September 21, 2021 by siran

I-Dirty · September 21, 2021

55 minutes ago, siran said:

. A red fortune (or other) at +5 instead of the impervium, and +5ing the defence would make a noticable difference.

Where at?

Here is another

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.6.0
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Stone Armor
Secondary Power Set: Spines
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Teleportation
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Stone Skin

(A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(25) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
(25) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(27) Impervium Armor - Resistance

Level 1: Barb Swipe

(A) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(3) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
(3) Hecatomb - Damage
(5) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(7) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
(7) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 2: Earth's Embrace

(A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(5) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
(11) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
(13) Numina's Convalesence - Heal

Level 4: Rock Armor

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 6: Spine Burst

(A) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
(11) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
(17) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
(19) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
(19) Armageddon - Damage
(21) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 8: Rooted

(A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(9) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
(9) Doctored Wounds - Heal

Level 10: Mud Pots

(A) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(13) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage
(15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
(15) Superior Might of the Tanker - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(17) Superior Might of the Tanker - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 12: Boxing

(A) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
(21) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 14: Combat Teleport

(A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 16: Maneuvers

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance

Level 18: Ripper

(A) Fury of the Gladiator - Damage/Recharge
(27) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech
(29) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff
(29) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Damage
(31) Fury of the Gladiator - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge

Level 20: Brimstone Armor

(A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(33) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 22: Tough

(A) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(23) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
(23) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 24: Hasten

(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26: Build Up

(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
(34) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance

Level 28: Minerals

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 30: Weave

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
(31) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
(34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
(37) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 32: Granite Armor

(A) Aegis - Resistance
(36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
(39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
(39) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance
(40) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 35: Quills

(A) Superior Avalanche - Recharge/Chance for Knockdown
(36) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(37) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage
(37) Superior Avalanche - Damage/Endurance
(42) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(43) Superior Avalanche - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 38: Throw Spines

(A) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(40) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
(40) Superior Gauntleted Fist - RechargeTime/+Absorb
(43) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
(46) Superior Gauntleted Fist - Accuracy/Damage

Level 41: Gloom

(A) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(42) Apocalypse - Damage
(42) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
(43) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(46) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge

Level 44: Dark Obliteration

(A) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown
(45) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(45) Ragnarok - Damage
(45) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(46) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(48) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 47: Summon Widow

(A) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
(48) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Endurance
(48) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage
(50) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge
(50) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(50) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 49: Crystal Armor

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

Edited September 21, 2021 by I-Dirty

Cenozoic · September 21, 2021

OP,

I have a Stone/Spines/Soul that is hilariously survivable. Also run a Mez Farm using Minerals (I am not efficient). I think it's called Not Quite Psionic.

Anyway, @PLVRIZR is awesome and his tanking is pretty legendary, so I do what he says most of the time.

PLVRIZR · September 21, 2021

7 hours ago, Cenozoic said:

Anyway, @PLVRIZR is awesome and his tanking is pretty legendary, so I do what he says most of the time.

LOL, thanks. I miss you Cen, but I just couldn't take Reunion's ghost-town vibe and needing half an hour just to put together an ITF 🤔

Back at you with the compliment as Los is one of the baddest blasters I've ever had the privilege to team with. I'd also say, we both have a pretty legendary sense of humor, as well 😆

OceanusCoH · September 21, 2021

I have my psionic resist at about 83%, and it's made a world of difference. I was in a group the other night where someone said, "Oh, crap, psionics!", and just kind of snickered.

I-Dirty · September 21, 2021

Anyone have a few hundred million I could borrow until the 7th tuesday of next month? 😄

Cenozoic · September 21, 2021

7 hours ago, PLVRIZR said:

LOL, thanks. I miss you Cen, but I just couldn't take Reunion's ghost-town vibe and needing half an hour just to put together an ITF 🤔

Back at you with the compliment as Los is one of the baddest blasters I've ever had the privilege to team with. I'd also say, we both have a pretty legendary sense of humor, as well 😆

Yeah bro, moved most toons to Excelsior for the pulse. Tried to start ITF on Reunion, got 0 responses, so Los solo'd it on +4x8 to the tenth power, or whatever ridiculous setting folks mush on about (why not just go 0x8 and SMESH at high speed??? Much funner). Turns out he can stealth snipe the Nictus Essences to death without drawing aggro. Super cheap and highly entertaining.

Shard transfers are great.

The whole return of CoH through Homecoming is great. I hope folks remember that this game was in the ashes for a long time, and even watching @I-Dirty's stoner get violated by Carnies is better than not playing at all. No, we'd make time to watch that. Life is good!

I-Dirty · September 21, 2021

For some reason Im all hard thinking of the carnies and my stoner...get it? 😄

I was so happy to see this game back.

WIsh they had the exact same game with upgraded graphics. BUT I am not complaining. Simply saying and if they did it might draw more people

Now that my stoner can make muh money (slowly right now) Im gonna figure out the funnest toon to level the old fashion way

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