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I've had an Illusion/Cold controller for ages, as a replacement for one of my first characters on live, Illusion/FF.  After hitting 50(+3) and shelving the character for a year to pursue other interesting characters, I'm ready to revisit and actually put some sets to use.  There are several threads talking about how great this combo is for killing AVs, but I'm more looking for the ability to lead a team, small or large, through high difficulty missions without risking much death.  Here's a build I've thrown together, but I'd love some input as to how to make it more soloable, or conversely, how to maintain softcapped defense while maximizing recharge.

 

Also, am I wasting my time with procs?  Not sure without trying it out...

 

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.4.7
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Refractionary: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blind -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(3), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(5), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(7)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(7), TchofLadG-%Dam(9), AchHee-ResDeb%(9), ImpSwf-Dam%(11)
Level 2: Spectral Wounds -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Apc-Acc/Rchg(13), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Apc-Dam%(15), GldJvl-Dam%(15)
Level 4: Ice Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 6: Deceive -- CrcPrs-Conf(A), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(19), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(19), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(21), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(21), CrcPrs-Conf%(23)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(23)
Level 10: Glacial Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel(25), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(25), Ksm-ToHit+(27)
Level 14: Fly -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Afterburner -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 18: Phantom Army -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(27), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(29), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(31), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(31)
Level 20: Arctic Fog -- RedFrt-Def/Rchg(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFrt-Def(33), RedFrt-EndRdx(34)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(34), ShlWal-Def(34)
Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 26: Spectral Terror -- GlmoftheA-Acc/Rchg(A), GlmoftheA-EndRdx/Fear(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/EndRdx(36), GlmoftheA-Acc/Fear/Rchg(36), GlmoftheA-Dam%(37)
Level 28: Benumb -- Acc-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(37), GldArm-3defTpProc(37)
Level 32: Phantasm -- BldMnd-Acc/Dmg(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(39), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx(39), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), BldMnd-Acc(40), BldMnd-Dmg(40)
Level 35: Sleet -- ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(40), TchofLadG-%Dam(42), AchHee-ResDeb%(42), ImpSwf-Dam%(42), PstBls-Dam%(43)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PwrTrns-Dam/Rech(43), PwrTrns-Dam/EndMod(43), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/End(45), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/Rech/End(45), PwrTrns-+Heal(45)
Level 41: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(46), Rct-ResDam%(46)
Level 44: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(46), LucoftheG-Def(50)
Level 47: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(50), GssSynFr--Build%(50)
Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(17)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(17)
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DreadShinobi

DreadShinobi

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Here's the build I have that you can take a look at. 

127.5% global recharge from set bonuses, hits perma PA, perma tarantula, perma heat loss, perma benumb, 15s cd sleet, procced poisonous ray, and features adrenal booster. Grab an extra 20% global recharge from sg base buff. Poisonous Ray is really good with illusion control, you took mace mastery and skipped it! It is a better place for your achilles and apocalypse proc and it adds to your resist debuff stack to amplify your pet damage. Proc out blind - it has a 9s base rchg compared to the typical 8s. Also I wouldn't concern yourself as much with your softcaps when you have perma PA. Amplifiers are also available. Also +regen slotting in the right places is pretty helpful for /cold, outside of a green insp or heal temp power it is your only way to regain lost hp. Leadership: assault is doing very little for your build btw, it does not affect phantom army or any of your dmg procs.

 

Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25
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Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Experimentation
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Blind -- UnbCns-Dam%(A), NrnSht-Dam%(3), GldNet-Dam%(3), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(5), GldJvl-Dam%(5), CaloftheS-Heal%(7)
Level 1: Infrigidate -- TchofLadG-%Dam(A), ImpSwf-Dam%(7), ShlBrk-%Dam(9)
Level 2: Ice Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 4: Deceive -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(17), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(29), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(34), CrcPrs-Conf%(34)
Level 6: Spectral Wounds -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(9), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Apc-Acc/Rchg(36)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 10: Glacial Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12: Group Invisibility -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(15)
Level 16: Speed of Sound -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 18: Phantom Army -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(19), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(25), SlbAll-Build%(27), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(27)
Level 20: Arctic Fog -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(21), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(21), GldArm-3defTpProc(23), GldArm-End/Res(23)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), ShlWal-Def(43), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(46)
Level 24: Experimental Injection -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 26: Adrenal Booster -- AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(37), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(39), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(40), AdjTrg-Rchg(40)
Level 28: Benumb -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 30: Flurry -- AbsAmz-Stun(A), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(31), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(31), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(31), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(33)
Level 32: Phantasm -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpStr-Dam%(36)
Level 35: Sleet -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(37), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(39), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 38: Heat Loss -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 41: Poisonous Ray -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(42), ShlBrk-%Dam(42), GldJvl-Dam%(42), Apc-Dam%(43)
Level 44: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(45), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(45), Rct-Def/Rchg(45), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Rct-ResDam%(46)
Level 47: Summon Tarantula -- ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(48), ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Flash -- BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(A), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(50), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(50), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(13), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Hct-Acc/Rchg(15), Hct-Dam%(17)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Qck-EndRdx/RunSpd(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Heal(11), Pnc-Heal/+End(25)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve 
Level 0: Portal Jockey 
Level 0: Task Force Commander 
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion 
Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon 
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DreadShinobi

DreadShinobi

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4 hours ago, Temerity86 said:

There are several threads talking about how great this combo is for killing AVs, but I'm more looking for the ability to lead a team, small or large, through high difficulty missions without risking much death. 

 

On this specifically I would say Ill/Cold is a fantastic at melting AVs. For general content, if we are talking about controllers in particular, I would look at other sets that have more consistent hard cc and aoe damage. An AV killer Ill/Cold build will differ greatly from a build suited for other tasks. It is a good choice for some AV heavy task forces like ms lib tf and the recluse sf though.

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Meknomancer

Meknomancer

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Its as good as an ill/dark.....maybe even a little better. Haven't found anything it can't do well (high level content anyway)

 

 

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.7
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

ILL COLD PSI: Level 49 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Illusion Control
Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Spectral Wounds            Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(3), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), GldJvl-Dam%(7)
Level 1:    Infrigidate            TmpRdn-Acc/EndRdx(A)
Level 2:    Blind                BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(7), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(9), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(9), GldJvl-Dam%(11), GldJvl-Acc/Dmg(11)
Level 4:    Deceive                CrcPrs-Conf%(A), CrcPrs-Conf/EndRdx(13), CrcPrs-Conf/Rchg(13), CrcPrs-Acc/Conf/Rchg(15), CrcPrs-Acc/Rchg(15), CrcPrs-Conf(17)
Level 6:    Ice Shield            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 8:    Hover                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(37), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(40), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(42)
Level 10:    Glacial Shield            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 12:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 14:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(42)
Level 16:    Tactics                AdjTrg-ToHit(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(42), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(43)
Level 18:    Phantom Army            ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(A), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(19), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(25), SlbAll-Build%(27), SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(27)
Level 20:    Arctic Fog            Rct-ResDam%(A), Rct-Def/Rchg(21), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(21), Rct-Def/EndRdx(23), Rct-Def(23), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 22:    Kick                FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 24:    Tough                StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 26:    Spectral Terror            SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(A), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(31), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(31), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(33)
Level 28:    Benumb                Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 30:    Weave                LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)
Level 32:    Phantasm            ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(34), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(34)
Level 35:    Sleet                RechRdx-I(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(36)
Level 38:    Heat Loss            PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech(39), PreOptmz-EndMod/End(40), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech(40)
Level 41:    Indomitable Will        RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 44:    Mental Blast            Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Apc-Acc/Rchg(45), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Dmg(46)
Level 47:    Psionic Tornado            Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(47), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(47), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 49:    Mind Over Body            UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(49), GldArm-3defTpProc(49)
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Containment    
Level 1:    Sprint                Empty(A)
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Swift                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Health                Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrc-Rcvry+(36), Prv-Absorb%(36)
Level 1:    Hurdle                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(37)
Level 50:    Agility Core Paragon    
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Olly

Olly

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Iirc @Frosticus had some great ill/cold builds. I based one of mine on his posts. A brief comparison of my build vs. yours:

  • I used Ice Mastery; frozen armor + ice storm. Hibernate is nice for solo, too. Iirc Frosticus used Earth for the KB on his offense build, and Psionic for defensive.
  • Took Ice Shield but not Glacial. Debuff from Ice Storm I feel helps more than another shield. I also don't care about teams as much
  • Superior invisibility instead of afterburner. For stealthing to end bosses, and as a mule for Luck of the Gambler

Unfortunately I don't have a Mid's of my current build. Think I ran it through beta, was happy with the results, then dropped it and forgot to actually finish it. I'll post one I was tinkering with earlier this year.

  

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