Need Dev Confirmation on powers affected by domination.

[Nemu]

Hello,

 

I brought this up on the Dominator forums.

 

It seems that not all powers that carry a mez component are affected by domination. For example, Psychic Shockwave has a 25% to stun and does trigger domination, but Devastating Blow or Energy Transfer, which have a 60% chance to stun do not. There seems to be some inconsistency here across dominator secondaries/patron/epics and pool powers.

 

Whether this is working by design or a bug I do not know. If it is a bug then I hope it's addressed in 2022 🙂

[ZorkNemesis]

It's all on a power by power basis.  There are inconsistencies for sure but every power that is effected by Domination should have that noted in their "detailed info" tab.  You'll see something along the lines of "3.0 Magnitude Hold Only while Domination is active" on most powers.  Mostly it's by design.

[Nemu]

It wouldn't be the first time proliferated powers have certain tags neglected or have incorrect scalars. How are you so sure that these inconsistencies are absolutely by design? Why is it by design that seismic smash or total focus with their 100% chance to hold/stun dominates but devastating blow with it's 60% chance to stun doesn't, while psychic shockwave with it's 25% chance to stun also dominates? If it was a matter of "% chance for mez powers are not affected by domination," I would have bought that, but psychic shockwave proves otherwise.

 

I question that these inconsistencies are indeed "by design," because what I see does not make sense.

[TheZag]

I think its just as likely that none of them are supposed to work with domination as all of them are.  But the fact that any of them are affected means someone either turned those ones on or the other ones off.  

 

There are scrapper epic powers that dont crit and i think tanks have ones that dont trigger gauntlet so dominator ones that dont dominate might just be a thing. 

[Nemu]

It might be a thing on production but doesn't mean that they necessarily need to be "a thing." If these are deemed working as intended or if only primary powers are supposed to work with domination, cool. If they are bugs, then where that falls in the list of priorities to address is up to the dev team.

 

I'm simply bringing it to their attention, and if there are powers that do what you described with scrapper crits and tank gauntlet those should be brought to light as well. If I recall things like this have been fixed before. There was an issue with scrapper snipe crit rate that was addressed a few major patches ago.

[Rudra]

I can't speak for the devs, but I always figured the domination bar was built up by the dominator's actual domination powers, not any pools powers, epics, or what have you. The fact a few other powers also build up domination always felt more like a happy accident. The problem with domination is that when you read it, it reads a lot like fury in that it grows every time you attack. Except it only actually seems to grow when you use a mez specific power. I agree that domination needs some clarification, and I would greatly appreciate actually knowing what affects a dominator's domination bar, but as I said, I always just figured it was the dom's primary mez powers and possibly their secondary attacks.

[Nemu]

All dominator attacks build the domination bar, even temp powers, even brawl. I just tested this. That's not what I'm talking about,

 

I'm talking about doubling mag and duration for those powers that have a mez component when domination is active. There's a lot of inconsistencies there among secondaries/pools/epics/patrons.

 

There seems to be a bit of "it is what it is" sentiment that I see. If something is not working as intended then it's a bug for better or worse, I am not discounting that possibility that non-primary mez powers are not supposed to be affected by domination. And we the players don't need to worry about how to fix the bug for the developers or assume the code complexity of a fix on behalf of the developers. Leave that up to them, they have their methods and priorities, all we need to do is inform them that a discrepancy/bug exists and provide steps to reproduce. If a fix comes great, if it doesn't they have their reasons and priorities and that's ok too.