Chekhov Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) to anyone who is willing to help, what are the best powers and sets to choose for dual blades? What powers are necessary for regeneration? I currently have all of my regeneration powers and all but confront when it comes to the dual blades power. Please, I would like all the help I can get. Edited March 1, 2022 by Chekhov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeGuy Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 For regen? Re-roll anything else. 1 Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saikochoro Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) For dual blades I would take the following powers: Fully slot out the following: -blinding feint - if you can fit in the critical strikes proc I would. -ablaiting strike - if you can fit in the Achilles heel -res proc I’d do so. -Vengeful slice -sweeping strike - if you can fit in the fury of the gladiator -res proc. -typhoons edge Your rotation is blinding feint + attack vitals (ablating>vengeful>sweeping) on repeat. Throw in typhoons edge before or after attack vitals when surrounded. note: you have to take power slice or nimble slice. I take one or the other, but don’t slot it or put it on the tray. I take everything on Regen, except the revive unless I just happen to have another power slot available. Depending on your budget, my goals are as follows: - Push global recharge. You don’t need a ton to have a gapless blinding feint + attack vitals chain, but Regen loves recharge. You are also very susceptible to -rech debuffs. So get some -rech protection. - I personally like to beef up my resistances rather than defenses on Regen. Defense will get stripped very easily. I generally push s/l resists primarily and e/n secondarily. I usually also pick up rune of protection on Regen to pop in difficult situations. You will still end up with some defenses as a by product. If you have room in your powers you can also pick up shadow meld from the soul mastery tree. Between rune, shadow meld, and moment of glory you have 3 emergency clicks. I also keep some purple inspirations in my tray for emergencies. Edited March 1, 2022 by Saikochoro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeGuy Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Mandatory things to take in DB: Blinding Feint, Sweeping Strike, and Typhoon's Edge. Nimble Slash is necessary if going for the Empower Combo (and I'd honestly do this if not enough recharge for the BF-AS-SS-AS chain or doing a proc build if you want really good DPS performance). Vengeful Strike is cool as hell for the animation alone but pretty wanting in terms of actual performance. 1K Cuts is in the same boat as Vengeful Strike. Pylon and Trapdoor Results Spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d0VruEHGktnPFvtMLF_MdpKPBe0wgUhzyGvb1DQNQQo/edit#gid=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koopak Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Depending on build tuning its possible to skip quick recovery at no loss Regeneration CalculatorClear Speed Leaderboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperstrike Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) For your perusal. Mid's DPS calculator says optimal attack chain. Blinding Feint --> Sweeping Strike --> Ablating Strike --> Vengeful Slice 297 DPS 1.67 EPS Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Power Slice -- Acc-I(A)Level 1: Fast Healing -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(3), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(5), Pnc-Heal(5)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Hct-Acc/Rchg(11), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Hct-Dam%(13)Level 4: Reconstruction -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), UnbGrd-Max HP%(15), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(21)Level 8: Quick Recovery -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 10: Blinding Feint -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(23), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(27)Level 12: Dull Pain -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(27), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(29), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(29), Pnc-Heal(31)Level 14: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 16: Integration -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(33), Pnc-Heal(33)Level 18: Vengeful Slice -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(36)Level 20: Resilience -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39), Rct-ResDam%(40)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(42)Level 28: Instant Healing -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(43), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(43), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(43), Pnc-Heal(45)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), WntGif-ResSlow(45)Level 32: One Thousand Cuts -- Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Rchg(46), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(46)Level 35: Revive -- Prv-Absorb%(A)Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(46), Ags-Psi/Status(48), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(48), PwrTrns-+Heal(48), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/Rech/End(50)Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 49: Physical Perfection -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(7), Mrc-Rcvry+(7)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9)Level 50: Agility Core ParagonLevel 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1400;645;1290;HEX;| |78DA6D945B6F12511485CFC0502C97566C0B6DB9165AA150C6F2E083FA622A456D2| |169ACF1154738451202046A62E3256AE2BB568D2F5E5F4CFC0FFE02AFBFA46A62EB| |ED0537EC75CCD44832F972D6ACB5CF3E7B66285DCD7B36360A27853672AA6176BBE| |5F54AC76CB765C751326BF58AE8FF9C744D2BBD5C920D298DFC15B3515E6A9855D9| |0DFFBD95971BB2D995C63959934DD93137EBADA6F0AEB55A0DA350AF5DDEAC376B9| |EC1AA28CD362D5C83C57A5BCAAA9B5D8DBECDB7DCAE578CA55675AB5C32BB9BB2B3| |35491DCCD075ADDF8A3668AA473D1172BAC85B445D84EC03D11606234C3D0AC698D| |729A4A99096B40DC40329A66B1E4C333D19E63285EC2A64DFE54A9E3DE6C84FF017| |F360809C615DDCA090032187E3A2CE374DE6A14B6085395E0525B34061A73AB0F33| |B8B37491CD60647EE3986DFF276FE77E07BE6E407F02373FA13F33485DDEA0C6E4C| |6B1AD30A615A214C2B8269D928E4E571F584F72E4FE30C89A3AAD2282A455029824| |A31548AA1D22D0AF9D4347CF7F840B1FBCC996DF001F8909978C43C4BE13184ED63| |987F02F34FFC60CEE239D8C93CA1CC1330CFC23C0BF361987532079439D08FF56F8| |E83AB6C4A7E63DE26F3943AC3D413EE2DF9147CC69C7F0EBE005F3257281C54530B| |626A694C2D8DA9A531B5054CCD4FA13042B630DA5B407B0B4136DD21535499A2C7F| |921654F80C798AB648AAB172ABEC3C922897302079A43F9AC8F79E4289803F116E6| |F698710AA7D4B6A90C7F93B97FB84E1B65D4B61988E749349468BCE6065F7985585| |4E222F60AE9FFF9EEA316B157DCE718E65A6BBAD248D4821CDB71599D5916BF5844| |9B98E1B10C5DE0130FAD1093BAF8BC2F99E2E4578BA889C7F823D966FEF613548B6| |FC62C8B3F12D3B62F| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited March 14, 2022 by Hyperstrike If you want to be godlike, pick anything. If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeowensoas Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) On 3/14/2022 at 2:07 AM, Hyperstrike said: For your perusal. Mid's DPS calculator says optimal attack chain. Blinding Feint --> Sweeping Strike --> Ablating Strike --> Vengeful Slice 297 DPS 1.67 EPS Reveal hidden contents This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Dual BladesSecondary Power Set: RegenerationPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Body Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Power Slice -- Acc-I(A)Level 1: Fast Healing -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(3), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(3), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(5), Pnc-Heal(5)Level 2: Ablating Strike -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Hct-Acc/Rchg(11), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Hct-Dam%(13)Level 4: Reconstruction -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(13), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), UnbGrd-Max HP%(15), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(17)Level 6: Typhoon's Edge -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(21)Level 8: Quick Recovery -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 10: Blinding Feint -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(23), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(27)Level 12: Dull Pain -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(27), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(29), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(29), Pnc-Heal(31)Level 14: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 16: Integration -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(31), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(33), Pnc-Heal(33)Level 18: Vengeful Slice -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(33), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(34), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(36)Level 20: Resilience -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 22: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39)Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(39), Rct-ResDam%(40)Level 26: Sweeping Strike -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(42)Level 28: Instant Healing -- Pnc-Heal/EndRedux(A), Pnc-EndRdx/Rchg(43), Pnc-Heal/Rchg(43), Pnc-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg(43), Pnc-Heal(45)Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), WntGif-ResSlow(45)Level 32: One Thousand Cuts -- Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Rchg(46), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(46)Level 35: Revive -- Prv-Absorb%(A)Level 38: Moment of Glory -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg(46), Ags-Psi/Status(48), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(48), PwrTrns-+Heal(48), PwrTrns-Dam/Acc/Rech/End(50)Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 47: Focused Accuracy -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 49: Physical Perfection -- PwrTrns-+Heal(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(7), Mrc-Rcvry+(7)Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(9)Level 50: Agility Core ParagonLevel 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1400;645;1290;HEX;| |78DA6D945B6F12511485CFC0502C97566C0B6DB9165AA150C6F2E083FA622A456D2| |169ACF1154738451202046A62E3256AE2BB568D2F5E5F4CFC0FFE02AFBFA46A62EB| |ED0537EC75CCD44832F972D6ACB5CF3E7B66285DCD7B36360A27853672AA6176BBE| |5F54AC76CB765C751326BF58AE8FF9C744D2BBD5C920D298DFC15B3515E6A9855D9| |0DFFBD95971BB2D995C63959934DD93137EBADA6F0AEB55A0DA350AF5DDEAC376B9| |EC1AA28CD362D5C83C57A5BCAAA9B5D8DBECDB7DCAE578CA55675AB5C32BB9BB2B3| |35491DCCD075ADDF8A3668AA473D1172BAC85B445D84EC03D11606234C3D0AC698D| |729A4A99096B40DC40329A66B1E4C333D19E63285EC2A64DFE54A9E3DE6C84FF017| |F360809C615DDCA090032187E3A2CE374DE6A14B6085395E0525B34061A73AB0F33| |B8B37491CD60647EE3986DFF276FE77E07BE6E407F02373FA13F33485DDEA0C6E4C| |6B1AD30A615A214C2B8269D928E4E571F584F72E4FE30C89A3AAD2282A455029824| |A31548AA1D22D0AF9D4347CF7F840B1FBCC996DF001F8909978C43C4BE13184ED63| |987F02F34FFC60CEE239D8C93CA1CC1330CFC23C0BF361987532079439D08FF56F8| |E83AB6C4A7E63DE26F3943AC3D413EE2DF9147CC69C7F0EBE005F3257281C54530B| |626A694C2D8DA9A531B5054CCD4FA13042B630DA5B407B0B4136DD21535499A2C7F| |921654F80C798AB648AAB172ABEC3C922897302079A43F9AC8F79E4289803F116E6| |F698710AA7D4B6A90C7F93B97FB84E1B65D4B61988E749349468BCE6065F7985585| |4E222F60AE9FFF9EEA316B157DCE718E65A6BBAD248D4821CDB71599D5916BF5844| |9B98E1B10C5DE0130FAD1093BAF8BC2F99E2E4578BA889C7F823D966FEF613548B6| |FC62C8B3F12D3B62F| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| That’s definitely not correct, since you could literally improve DPS just by reordering the attacks to BF->AS->VS->SS and get the AV combo. The mids calc definitely is a good starting point but doesn’t handle weird things like combo mechanics well. On a scrapper at least, Empower->SS is gonna do more damage, and BF->AS->SS->AS as well, though that one needs crazy high recharge. if you really want some good DPS, run Empower->SS, and get 191.5% global recharge, that way you can run Blinding Feint with the Critical Strikes proc and NO other slotted recharge, then the CS proc pops like 72% of the time so you get +100 dmg 60+%crit sweeping strikes (and nimble slash) Doing that and then loading Sweeping Strike and Blinding feint with purple procs (and minimal slotted recharge) and getting both -res procs going is about the best DPS dual blades can manage. I once got a 1:17 pylon time with my Dual Blades/SR scrapper using this approach the perk to using the BF->AV chain is it still does very good DPS while requiring essentially 0 Global recharge besides what you get from 5 LotGs, which means you can use your slotting for more Def/Res/Regen/Dmg/whatever. This is why Dual Blades is probably my favorite scrapper primary. It’s one of the most flexible primaries for sure in terms of build flexibility Edited March 17, 2022 by leeowensoas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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