Dark Melee/Shield: Scrapper or Tanker?

[StriderIV]

Hi all,

 

I ran this combo on a Scrapper back on live and it was just so synergistic. A true “do it all Scrapper.” 

 

Thinking of rolling it again on Homecoming. My question is though: would you still run it on a Scrapper, or on a Tanker? AAO and Shield in general seems great on a Scrapper. However, tankers get the added AOE on Shadow Maul and Touch of Fear.

 

I’d love to hear thoughts/suggestions!

[ninja surprise]

If you already did it on Live, give the Tank a try.  The added AoE is very noticeable and quite nice. And the added taunt is handy for getting critters to clump up on you.

 

But if you want to be a buzzsaw of doom, go Scrapper.

 

Edit: My main on Live was a DM/SR Scrapper and I re-rolled it as a tank and I'm happy with it.  I miss one-shotting a Boss with Midnight Grasp, but the extra AoE on Shadow Maul and the built in taunt aura is quite nice.

Edited February 6, 2023 by ninja surprise

[StriderIV]

1 hour ago, ninja surprise said:

If you already did it on Live, give the Tank a try.  The added AoE is very noticeable and quite nice. And the added taunt is handy for getting critters to clump up on you.

 

But if you want to be a buzzsaw of doom, go Scrapper.

 

Edit: My main on Live was a DM/SR Scrapper and I re-rolled it as a tank and I'm happy with it.  I miss one-shotting a Boss with Midnight Grasp, but the extra AoE on Shadow Maul and the built in taunt aura is quite nice.

I was thinking that as well. The extra AOE on TOF and Shadow Maul is pretty nice on a Tanker.

 

I’m wondering if it really stands out as a “tank among tanks” though. I do feel the combo stands out among Scrappers. And I like the buzzsaw stuff 😂

[twozerofoxtrot]

I'd do this on a Scrapper myself.

 

I think ToF is still trash, and a skip. Fight me behind the gym; bring friends.

 

Shadow Maul is indeed great but you're still getting a 120° cone as a Scrapper, just hitting less. I don't think this gets the radius boost on a Tanker; IIRC this is one of the exception powers. edit: It does have a wider arc; got this confused with the target cap adjustments in i27p1.

 

Shield Charge doesn't benefit from Tanker quirks.

 

Shield has a taunt aura on Scraps. Not missing out there.

 

Scraps are usually not expected to tank in teams, which is nice if that's not what your here for. But of course you can still pinch hit if you need to.

 

Better ATOs for doing damage on a Scrap. It seems like you're after damage in your OP.

 

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

Edited February 6, 2023 by twozerofoxtrot

[StriderIV]

1 hour ago, twozerofoxtrot said:

I'd do this on a Scrapper myself.

 

I think ToF is still trash, and a skip. Fight me behind the gym; bring friends.

 

Shadow Maul is indeed great but you're still getting a 120° cone as a Scrapper, just hitting less. I don't think this gets the radius boost on a Tanker; IIRC this is one of the exception powers. edit: It does have a wider arc; got this confused with the target cap adjustments in i27p1.

 

Shield Charge doesn't benefit from Tanker quirks.

 

Shield has a taunt aura on Scraps. Not missing out there.

 

Scraps are usually not expected to tank in teams, which is nice if that's not what your here for. But of course you can still pinch hit if you need to.

 

Better ATOs for doing damage on a Scrap. It seems like you're after damage in your OP.

 

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

Haha great TED Talk! Someone mentioned something to me before and I’m not sure if it’s true: does shield have different DDR values between a Scrapper and a Tanker? I felt like Active Defense was the same for both.

[twozerofoxtrot]

25 minutes ago, StriderIV said:

does shield have different DDR values between a Scrapper and a Tanker?

 

 

No, tankers have higher values.

 

+4.3 DDR

+2.6 Mez Protection 

 

Both stack

[Meknomancer]

My votes for scrapper, 2 of them now (torch and excel) i don't feel the need to do anything more than scrape in def+res numbers then go all out recharge and damage. With a tank i'd feel like i would be sacrificing the best parts of dm, the perma soul drain, in order to chase res+def for survival. And i wouldn't get shadow meld.

[StriderIV]

6 hours ago, Meknomancer said:

My votes for scrapper, 2 of them now (torch and excel) i don't feel the need to do anything more than scrape in def+res numbers then go all out recharge and damage. With a tank i'd feel like i would be sacrificing the best parts of dm, the perma soul drain, in order to chase res+def for survival. And i wouldn't get shadow meld.

I like this mentality. AAO + Soul Drain probably gets you to to the damage cap on a Scrapper really fast.

[Judge Jetson]

Hey all,

 

Just wondering if anyone has a build for the tanker version of shield/dark? 

 

Thanks,

The Judge

[icehero]

On 12/20/2023 at 12:11 PM, Judge Jetson said:

Hey all,

 

Just wondering if anyone has a build for the tanker version of shield/dark? 

 

Thanks,

The Judge

Also Wondering if anyone has a scrapper build?